(uncut) House Of Dragons ep 7
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I think Allicent's daughter is a dreamer she keeps saying weird lines with a lot of metaphors.... He'll have to lose an eye....I am hoping a bit of team green can join team black cause I have people I like on both sides.
Temeculous
2022-10-09 15:23:57 +0000 UTCAs far as where we get our thoughts fromâŠ.emotion lol
Rock Lee
2022-10-07 17:16:33 +0000 UTCDonât apologize. Lol. Itâs a long story but it was objective and provided valuable insight without spoilers. Itâs one of the best comments i read. Many of the others are emotionally taxing to read. âAlicent is wrong hereâs why âŠ. â. I thank you for your recap. Lol. I could just read this instead of making my own đđ
Rock Lee
2022-10-07 17:11:11 +0000 UTCI just watched the episode again and it was for sure my favorite so far. I only have 4 problems with it. The shade filter they used was trash (did they learn nothing from the white walker battle), there was no blood on the blade after it cut Rhaenyra, they aren't doing justice to Daemons fatherhood because in the book he is a good father, and the Leanor reveal happening after the wedding made me enjoy the wedding a lot less than I would've. I'm not sure where some of your thoughts are coming from lol. You should watch the "inside the episode" when the episode ends. It won't spoil anything, but it might give you answers or a better idea and insight to the events in the episode. Daemon laughing at the funeral was to get attention away from Rhaenyra because everybody was looking at her due to the insults in Vaemond's speech. During the gathering we can see just as much tension between the kids as the adults which is very sad. This is mainly due to Alicent and Cole. We have seen them constantly talk bad about Rhaenyra and her kids in public and to Alicent's kids. We've seen Cole treat and train Alicent's kids better and more than Rhaenyra's. We haven't ever seen Rhaenyra say or do anything bad about Alicent's kids or say anything bad about her or Cole in public. The Daemon and Rhaenyra scene was great and needed (incest I know). We saw there was something between them in episode 1 and it's just built up since. The connection was clearly still there, now that they're both adults and both are grieving it was inevitable. The entire dragon scene was awesome but claiming Vhagar was a shitty thing to do to those little girls. After its rider dies a dragon chooses the next so Aemond didn't technically steal it. However, with Leana being the last rider her dragonless daughter should've had the chance to claim Vhagar before anybody else. Aemond doing it the night of Leana's funeral made it even worse. Aemonds anger and hatred along with Vhagar is going to be a problem lol. The fight between the kids was perfect. 2 girls with no fighting skills, 1 boy with some fighting skills, and a tiny boy with hardly any fighting skills vs. a boy who is bigger by like a foot and has more and better fighting skills (Partly due to Cole training Alicent's kids more than Rhaenyra's). You fight to win so cut that bitch lol. Aemond 100% instigated the fight and deserved what he got. They didn't just jump him. It was between Aemond and the dragonless daughter then her sister defended her then Jace defended his cousins and Luke defended his brother. Jace didn't pull the knife until his baby brother was getting choked and insulted and about to get smashed with a rock. Aemond did use the rock btw, he hit Jace in the head and would've kept going if he didn't get cut. When you look at Alicent's kids vs Rhaenyra's you can see who the better parent is. The aftermath was perfect. This entire time Rhaenyra has kinda been on the defensive but this episode she went on the offensive. In Kings Landing she didn't really have anybody to help her. Leanor was kind of a party boy and even though he is a warrior he probably wasn't fit for the political scheming type of fight. Ser Harwin basically couldn't do or say anything because of his position on the totem pole. But now she feels like she has Daemon to back her up. So, she makes her first move by putting out her kids legitimacy. Knowing her father would be on her side on this topic. Everything move she made was to make Alicent show the room her true bitter cunty self. Now word will spread about her true nature and if anything were to happen, she would be the first person they look at. Rhaenyra baited Alicent perfectly and now the king basically legitimized her kids and if he keeps his word will take any tongue who questions it. Alicent and her family are the only people in the realm making a big deal about Rhaenyra's kids. The king doesn't care. Leanor doesn't care. He claimed them, loved them, and raised them as his own. Corlys doesn't care because "history remembers names not blood" and his wife is kinda split but its only Alicent bitching, crying, and stabbing. The kids are just as Targaryen as hers. The entire exchange between Rhaenyra and Alicent just proves that her family is the true problem. She is basically mad because Rhaenyra gets to live how she wants, and she doesn't. She is angry and bitter that Rhaenyra's life is better than hers. Her bitterness is actually putting her kids lives in more danger because she is starting a civil war. Marrying Daemon and "killing" Leanor was the 2nd power move Rhaenyra made. They are a dangerous combo. They can make pure white hair Targaryen kids, Daemon is a proven warrior, they are both smart and strategic when needed, and now that Leanor is gone, they are both feared. She also sticks it to Alicent again too because she is marrying who she wants and out of love. She strengthened her claim, married somebody she loves, and still kept the alliance with the Velaryons because of Daemon's kids and hers by name. Plus, it helps that Alicent would be doing what was done to Rhaenys. Leanor got a good deal out of that because he wanted a way out but there wasn't one until now. He is free and can live how he wants with who he wants, Btw Cole wanted to marry Rhaenyra to restore his honor and she didn't want to leave because she didn't love him, not to do with money. She wanted to keep having sex with him, but love wasn't there for her. I know I wrote a lot sorry lol.
Joseph LeRoy
2022-10-07 17:03:00 +0000 UTCItâs like Lord of the flies up in here. Those children are in serious need of hugs đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
LightMyPath Star
2022-10-07 00:25:17 +0000 UTCThe problem is if they get legimitized then their claim is still weaker than the rest and legitimized or not that doesnt magically make her gaslighting of years on end disappear, its basically still high treason. And no, Daemon was behaving like an unhinged heir just like Rhaenyra is now and was judged unfit for the throne and disowned. Enough with the ''If she were a boy excuse''. Aegon has a better claim to the throne than her wether you like it or not.
Fujishiro
2022-10-06 18:29:01 +0000 UTCOtto actually did nothing wrong, was he being ambitious? Sure, but the King was going to remary sooner or later and chances were high he would have a son down the line, leading to the same problems we have now. War was inevitable. Otto didn't think the King would double down on making Rhaenyra his heir after Aegon is born, he does care about the realm and Viserys is actually the cause of whats about to happen, not Otto.
Fujishiro
2022-10-06 18:27:38 +0000 UTCaegon is hilarious i wish they kept these younger actors longer or found a way to age them a little
Ky Williams
2022-10-06 18:11:31 +0000 UTCFuck team green so far but aegon is so accidentally funny I canât help but love him
Jahari Fields
2022-10-06 17:57:35 +0000 UTCIn response the kingdom being in ruin. Lol. Nobody actually believes that. When Directornasty starts yelling stuff you canât take that all serious. I normally join the hype because itâs funny to me. When AdorkableNerd starts doubling down and staring at the Camera. Sheâs capping lol. Thereâs a lot of jokes and banter thats difficult to discern if youâre new or donât understand our personalities. I normally like Villains or people with a lot of Grey. Hence my excitement in Otto
Rock Lee
2022-10-06 15:08:59 +0000 UTCNot sure why I have to explain emotional manipulation is bad especially when their spouse just died also Otto wouldnât have done any of that because his whole point for spying on her was to get a reason for the king to disown her as the heir that was the goal, and Iâm not sure why yâall think the kingdom is in ruin the only problem the kingdom really has is the step stones the one corlys brought up in ep 1 and Otto made the king ignore until it became a real issue. Lord strong was the only person on the council that was only trying to do whatâs best for the kingdom
Lexxlionz
2022-10-06 15:05:56 +0000 UTCNot sure when questioning became torturing, also bastard get legitimized all the time, and she behaved exactly how every prince before and after her behaves the boy they want on the throne acts just like rhae heâs just does it in the open and the civil war is happening because someone who has no claim to the throne wants to take it from her because she acts like a prince and not a princess. the king also ignored how his wife and children are saying things that could get his daughter killed and the fact his wife just went after his grandson with a nice and cut the heir to the throne
Lexxlionz
2022-10-06 14:59:54 +0000 UTCThey know but arent chill about it lmfao dude, the king is in denial about it he treats them as laenors kids, not as bastards that hes legitimizing. The thing is if he recognizes that they are bastards then its high treason against the crown and Rhaenyra + her kids must be killed or exiled + dishenerited thats what you guys don't understand. The whole realm knows they are bastards and do not like it but the Kings denial of reality is the only shield against retribution, once he dies its over mate. No lord will accept them as legit, its not just Alicent bro.
Fujishiro
2022-10-06 06:46:11 +0000 UTCNo wonder he's a Rhaenyra fan, gaslightning like his idol.
Fujishiro
2022-10-06 06:42:26 +0000 UTCđ€Łđ€Ł Damn Fivefs betta look away then. Cause amma b 'gaslighting' away. Call me Rheanerys. Shit
Sam
2022-10-06 03:21:11 +0000 UTCLmao you ask for evidence and then blatantly ignore sources provided in the post. Quotes with a link to search within the setting as well. I looked that shit up in like 10 seconds causes itâs not worth more time than that for something so well known. But yeah agree I canât make you learn more about the setting of you donât wanna, just please stop gaslighting people that itâs not something Rhaenyra said when in context itâs totally something she implied as the very least lol
Fivefs
2022-10-06 02:52:19 +0000 UTCI think yall letting Alicent off too easy as from as I can tell she has been jealous of Rhaenys cozy up to her dad while he was mourning then got mad that she thought that she was sleeping with the better looking brother than she teamed up with Rhaenys mad lover which the difference between Rhaenys not leaving with him and her husband leaving with his dude Rhaenys didn't love him the she teamed up with the hurt leg hater who is trying to get more power and probably her and she so righteous when it comes to Rhaenys kids but had no problem with her dad spying on Rhaenys or club foot hater killed his brother and father but didn't bring that up to her husband and didn't bring up Ser Criston sleeping with Rhaenys because she wanted him to protect her and hate on Rhaenys with her she is a jealous friend that prays for Rhaenys downfall she probably on was her friend because of her father she is not innocent and nor is Rhaenys but she never plotted against Alicent till now because she realized her old friend hates her and don't forget she offered to marry her oldest son to her crazy spider loving daughter and she made fun of her son who did nothing to her and said he wasn't full Targaryen which her kids are as much Targaryen as her's one parent is Targaryen
Kwame James
2022-10-06 02:31:40 +0000 UTCOhh I see, so you're just parroting what someone said on reddit as facts lmao Ey we'll just disagree and call it wraps
Sam
2022-10-06 02:29:09 +0000 UTCOkay so itâs gaslighting in ignorance, hereâs a pretty good breakdown of how to sharply question is synonymous for torture https://www.reddit.com/r/HouseOfTheDragon/comments/xuopw9/questioned_sharply_the_westerosi_euphemism_for/ It seems you donât know Games of Thrones very well probably not worth trying to convince your 2022 mind to understand a different setting and world.
Fivefs
2022-10-06 02:21:11 +0000 UTC@Fivefs you need to show me that dictionary that says sharply equals torture. Viserys did question him sharply and there was no torture involved. Sharply means firmly btw. Also, Alicent's "Over an insult" was in regards to the explanation that Rhaeneyrs gave as to why her son lost her eye. She did not think that was sufficient reasoning, "An insult is y my son lost an eye that makes no sense." It's impressive how much you reached thinking Rhaeneyrs wanted to torture that boy when all evidence suggests she's not worried about any of Alicent's kids nor as she shown any animosity towards them. Rhaeneyrs' request to have Aemond question had ntn to do with Aemond but with Alicent. She was staring right at her when she made the request, because she knows the source. As well as forcing her father to put an end to the rumors. You would think that if Rhaeneyrs was suggesting to HAVE THE KING'S SON TORTURED, there would be more of a reaction in the room, right? For example when Alicent requested someone scrape out the heir's son's eyeball, everyone reacted didnt they? lol seems like u missed it my dear. Gaslighting? Dont use words u heard on the internet yesterday. Ya look foolish. Ya think if
Sam
2022-10-06 01:26:08 +0000 UTCâPrince Aemond must be SHARPLY questioned so we might learn where he heard such slanders.â Is the actual quote, which means to interrogate under torture, which is why the Queen responds, âOver an insult?â Rhaenyra was asking to torture a child that just lost an eye and purposefully pushing the moment to force the Kings hand against the Queen in defense of her Illegitimate children. In a very clever and calculated way, Iâd say, I doubt she expected the king would do it but I think she was trying to set the Queen off like she did. So yeah youâre gaslighting @Sam my dude or you just didnât understand the context of the quote, in which case happy to help
Fivefs
2022-10-06 00:52:28 +0000 UTC@Fujishiro... She said, "Aemond should be questioned to find out the source of these slanders" The source being Alicent. So @Fujishiro please tell the audience where she wanted that boy tortured? lol. 2. They might not be her husband's but its definitely the heir's children she pushed out herself. Nonetheless I feel like the reigning king has legitimize her kids. So who is she gaslighting? Everyone knows. The king is cool. Her husband is cool.. The only person whose making a fuss is bitter (Alicent) and bitterer (Ser Criston). So If you were to be honest, the only person pushing for a war is Alicent. Cause everyone else knows and is chill. 3. Acting like a spoiled brat? She is. They're targaryens. That's y Alicent's panties are in a bunch. She did have an innocent man killed. Who is disputing this? But I will raise you Ser Harwin and his dear father. And how many other no name innocents caught in that fire. Done by her dear cripple she holds still so close to her. please, kindly, GTFOH
Sam
2022-10-05 23:56:49 +0000 UTCIn this case people are already mad because a woman will inherit the throne and now she had no real true born kids? Stannis Baratheon went against Joffrey for being a bastard so I definitely think itâs a issue regardless if a man(Robert)/woman(Rhae) tries to legitimize them. Overall, sheâs giving too much ammo for the opps to ride on her and the crown (Alicent) when Viserys passes. I definitely respect your opinion too. Personally I donât think itâs about Alicent being jealous and not having the chance to do as Rhae did - but more about decency, respect and morality towards the throne. I might be wrong here but has she ever said to the king remove Rhae? Sheâs jus pointing out all the dirt (in her mind) Rhae is doing - her going against Rhae is she decided thatâs the best option vs hoping for her mercy when she ascends the throne and advisors suggest to kill the competition (Aegon/Aemon).
Andre
2022-10-05 23:19:05 +0000 UTCLast point. Sorry Iâm writing as thoughts occur. All - every one - of Cerseis kids were bastards but two of them were king. SoâŠ
Teyon Alexander
2022-10-05 23:01:05 +0000 UTCCersei's children did not have the kings blood that is why her actions are egregious. Rhaeyra's children actually have the blood of the ruler in them, Viserys officially recognizes them, and their father officially recognizes them as his even though they are not so they are not bastards by law, only genetics. For example, if Robert saw Gendry one day legitimized him and proclaimed him as next in line for the throne it would not spark any outcry from any one but the Lannisters who would be losing a lot of power in that scenario. Essentially, lords would kill for a chance to have their children betrothed to Rhaeyra's children but the same cant be said for Cersei's children.
terrakion.is.good
2022-10-05 22:59:19 +0000 UTCCersei went around killing all of Roberts bastards because they still had claim to the throne. Gendry only escaped because he was hidden and then taken away when it was clear what Cersei was doing. Being a bastard of a ruler doesnât mean you arenât a threat to the line of succession if you can prove youâre a child of royalty.
Teyon Alexander
2022-10-05 22:58:47 +0000 UTCBut a King CAN legitimize a bastard for the sake of succession. Thatâs kind of the point here. If she were a man this would be a non issue. Also how much respect can Alicent have for the crown if sheâs constantly plotting to remove the princess as next in line? The king made his decree. If she respected the crown sheâd shut the heck up and support her rulerâs command. Full stop. Itâs not about respect itâs about not being able to have her cake and eat it too. I honestly believe that. I hear where youâre coming from though and I respect your point of view even if I donât agree.
Teyon Alexander
2022-10-05 22:55:15 +0000 UTCThe lords are conservative but absolutely will not go to war to prevent a female ruler. Incest was viewed as a mortal sin before the Targs came and everyone acquiesced because of the dragons. The lords have already sworn oaths proclaiming Rhaenyra as heir and the literally the only possible way a war would ever start is if Otto is doing what he is doing and does all he can to produce a claimant with dragons of their own then push them towards. Don't forget that the reason Rhaenyra is named heir is because Otto thought it would gain him favor from Viserys and he would later be able to make him change his mind when it would suit him. Aegon doesn't even want to be king, but Otto and Alicent are pushing him to be so. Don't fall for this false dichotomy they are preaching to make their side look better. Plenty of Targ rulers have done things 10x more unusual than having a female heir and the kingdom did not react that negatively to it. They fact of the matter is that Rhaenyra being heir does not fuck with the money, they only thing it is is usual to traditionally conservative lords. Otto can't just say I am a piece of shit who wants power, he has to invent a scenario where he is the hero lmao. Even if we give Otto the benefit of the doubt and say the lords of the realm are at the brink of war (which they aren't) he simply intermarries his and Rhaeyra's families and they say fuck off we literally have like 8 dragons and they lords stand down unless they want their castles and lands destroyed in a couple of hours.
terrakion.is.good
2022-10-05 22:51:00 +0000 UTCI hear you, but again I think itâs about her âdisrespectingâ the crown and being the heir to the throne will have her try and put the kids who arenât true born on the throne. Like Aegon said - everyone sees it, itâs highly embarrassing and disrespectful to pass of the kids as children of Velaryon and Targaryen. Remember back to Damon saying and does this kid have a marked but coincidental resemblance to Harwin? At this point sheâs making a joke of the crown, and all the enemies of the crown knows it, and the day Jace tries to inherit the throne you know people are going to ride on him saying heâs a bastard - just like Stannis went to war against the fake Baratheon Joffrey in GOT. This would be like Robert Baratheon getting one of his bastard sons and passing them off as a Lannister and Baratheon and next to inherit the throne. Itâs not about having kids outside of the marriage but trying to push those kids as sons of Laenors. All of this makes the crown look weak (talking about willful blindness of king), jeopardizes the succession plan and puts Alicents family in direct danger. Lastly Alicent is all about morality and decency - she doesnât fucx with Rhaes decisions which she feels goes against it.
Andre
2022-10-05 22:48:33 +0000 UTCI agree. I think the post-episode discussions really depend on the series and the people who watch that series. I'll admit that HotD is the series where I look forward to the post discussion just as much as the reaction itself.
Mael
2022-10-05 22:46:37 +0000 UTCWether it was Otto or someone else the moment the king remaries and pops and has a son civil war will ensue, so no Otto litteraly is not the cause of any of this he is just being pragmatic and sure he used her daughter to get closer to power but he still thinks about the realm first and foremost, if it wasnt his grandson it would be someone elses who will cause a civil war, its just way things are in westeros. The lord will not accept a woman ruler when she has male next of kin.
Fujishiro
2022-10-05 22:36:15 +0000 UTCHow about her trying to gaslight people into putting said bastards on the throne? Same shit Cersei did btw, how about the fact that she killed an innocent dude last episode to be able to marry Daemon? How about the fact that she asked for her 10yo brother to be tortured about who told him her kids were bastards? ( A request the king ignored but she asked it regardeless) How about the fact that she blatantly acts like a spoiled brat doing whatever the fuck she wants since episode 2 and is currently causing turmoil and a possible civil war that will lead to the deaths of thousands because of her actions? FOH.
Fujishiro
2022-10-05 22:27:33 +0000 UTCI like her kids actually
Ky Williams
2022-10-05 22:26:25 +0000 UTCAlicents kids are targaryen too you know, and Team Green ftw.
Fujishiro
2022-10-05 22:24:54 +0000 UTCLol I'm sorry but there's nothing in my 2022 mind that will make me genuinely dislike a character for having sex out of marriage and having bastards. While I understand its wrong within the context of the show, it doesn't translate to dislike for me. What do I look like disliking her, being a 'bastard' myself. lol. Its funny hearing ppl say, Rhaenerys is a bad person because she lost her virginity outside of marriage. lol ok? Meanwhile Alicent trying to run up on kids with knives. And apparently Rhanerys sex life drove her to it. get out of here
Sam
2022-10-05 20:30:47 +0000 UTCcant believe all these team alicunts and hightowersđ€ąđ€ą rhaenyra and the targareyans all the wayđ„
Ky Williams
2022-10-05 19:34:04 +0000 UTCHow is she a snake? Episode 2 she was 14-15 (Rhaenyra was 17 following the 2nd birthday of Alicent child so I am guessing she was the same age) following the orders of her pops, everytime Otto brought up seeing the king she said if that's what you require. She could have told Rhaenyra what was going on, but at the end of the day Otto raised her to follow his orders and the king told her not to tell.
Andre
2022-10-05 16:37:24 +0000 UTCBecause she been a snake from episode like 2 thatâs why itâs fuck Alicent đ
William Tippen
2022-10-05 16:24:00 +0000 UTCDope argument right here lol. Iâm not gonna chime in. Just watch the beef and make a video from the inspiration đđđ. Two heavy hitters I fuck with heavy. Andre thinks similar to me. Way more articulate . Argues well. Teyon knows what heâs talking about. I learned about Mike Pondsmith from Teyon commment. I been arguing with folks since lol.
Rock Lee
2022-10-05 15:11:20 +0000 UTClooool. Those girls are definitely going to be Gangstas lol, their Moms was a warrior riding the biggest dragon and Damon is their pops. I expect them to do great things
Andre
2022-10-05 14:09:51 +0000 UTCI think a point that is under-communicated is that Alicent is fighting for her, and her kids lives at this point. Remember back to Rhaenyra saying "Damon didn't touch me, I havenât ruined my integrity, I swear on my mother's memory"⊠Later when Cole admitted to knocking boots she realized she couldnât trust this girl for schitâŠ.. Fast forward to when Otto said, yo you have two options: (one) when war breaks out because these ninjas will not respect a woman sitting on the throne, they will challenge her, you can cling to her and hope for mercy â because a time will come where her advisors will tell her the only way to end the infighting and strengthen her claim is to kill the competition (Alicentâs kids). Or (two) get ready to fight for the throne. From her POV itâs clear she canât trust or rely on Rhaenyra (a liar who doesnât follow the rules) mercy therefore she moved on path two and therefore she canât let up at this point, because Rhaenyra is definitely going to body her and her children when she ascends at this point. Not saying she is right or wrong, but I see a lot of love for Rhae and a lot of hate for Alicent, but she is just doing what she feels is right.
Andre
2022-10-05 14:06:43 +0000 UTCAnd yet we see clearly that as long as her heir is male nobody really cares what she does. Yes sheâs spoken about in whispers and even boldly by some but people are clearly willing to ignore it in the grand scheme of things. Especially the common people. Only the nobles seem to get their panties in a twist and most wonât ever act on it unprovoked. It just seems more like her issue is that she wasnât allowed to do these things and therefore Rhanerys shouldnât be either. Couple that with the knowledge that if she are a man this wouldnât even be a conversation.
Teyon Alexander
2022-10-05 13:59:35 +0000 UTCHer point is that given her position as heir to the throne she is supposed to act a certain way and follow the unwritten rules. By not doing so she brings shame to the entire crown - just as the previous hand was saying the "shadow upon my house looms large. She is bringing a shadow on the whole family including the queen. E.g. we're a part of a royal family everyone is supposed to act a certain way, everyone is held up to that standard except "Jimmy" pops lets him ruin our good name and standing â that's where she is coming from.
Andre
2022-10-05 13:54:30 +0000 UTCYuuupppp but at the same. I respect he fought 4 of them. He refrained from using the Rock as a weapon. I take back my sympathy for them girls because to meâŠThe girls are Gangstas đđđ. She pieced with a nice right hand
Rock Lee
2022-10-05 13:54:12 +0000 UTCHaha I feel you, the entire show is made up of grey characters lol. Like even in this episode first you're happy for the little Aemon who finally got a dragon, but then you see him two-piece the little girls, act like Joffrey and all of a sudden you're like nah jump this punk lol.
Andre
2022-10-05 13:50:21 +0000 UTCIâm officially team green from this day forward.
Sonicluis
2022-10-05 12:43:33 +0000 UTCHereâs my problem with Alicent: so what if the princess gets away with living her life as she wants? How does that affect her in anyway? Itâs like the people complaining about student loan forgiveness. Ok fine you had to pay yours off - so what? How does someone else getting a break - your own family members even - how does that affect things youâve already done and agreed to? Do you go to a store and complain when something you bought last week goes on sale a week later? Lol sheâs mad because her dad took away her choices but thatâs not the fault of the princess and she needs to stop penalizing her for it. Alicent is the effing QUEEN. What the hell else more does she want and why does she think the princess needs to be held to a standard Alicent chose for herself? As for the fake death/murder, it was always part of the plan that homie would live. Daemon said âset him freeâ. They killed that random black guy minding his business so that they could fake a corpse. Always the plan from word one.
Teyon Alexander
2022-10-05 12:37:44 +0000 UTCAlicent asking the king to reveal the legitimacy of the princess kids will put all their life in danger, ya ask why the king shield them because he didnât wanna have to be forced to exile his daughter & kill his grandchildren or worse have to kill them all which only leaves Alicent & her kids! Which is why itâs not so simple as punishing her and be done with it, Itâs far worse and that why the king keep telling Alicent to stop relentlessly bringing it up because only Alicent & the green win that scenario!
Ronaldus Thornton
2022-10-05 11:49:25 +0000 UTCIâm a free agent lol. I like both women. I like Daemon and vicerys. I like Otto too
Rock Lee
2022-10-05 11:34:39 +0000 UTCMissed that thanks
Rock Lee
2022-10-05 11:34:06 +0000 UTCYea thatâs what we concluded or thought if during the end. Yup
Rock Lee
2022-10-05 11:33:56 +0000 UTCI am back to being a free agent lol, I was team Rhaenyra and Damon in the begining, but they just keep doing too many sus things. You hate to see it but grown Rhaenyra is giving me Cersei vibes.
Andre
2022-10-05 10:03:54 +0000 UTCInteresting that the daughter of Allicent said he (Aemon) will have to close his eye to get a dragon in the previous episode...
Andre
2022-10-05 09:59:05 +0000 UTCThank you, exactly who asked her to try seduce her best friend father, her own father for what power & ambition! She should thought of that then at moment!! Plus princess lied to her that one time, but queen also betrayed the princess when she married the princess father but the princess eventually forgave her in half the time that sheâs been mad at the princess!Why canât the queen be required to the same and forgive the princess too!!
Ronaldus Thornton
2022-10-05 07:25:54 +0000 UTCspeaking of the tea, there's a theory out there that she actually didn't drink the tea and that Jacaerys is Criston's son and not Harwins. Criston's got that black hair too
Kelschman
2022-10-05 07:24:31 +0000 UTCGo watch that scene again when Cole wanted Rhaenyra to leave with him he first tried to use that but then when she refused the actual truth came out it was just about him and his honor thats all it was, Laenor wanted to leave because he was unhappy that was clearly obvious, so Rhaenyra gave him that and I donât see why you guys are getting mad at her for that when in theory they both got what they wanted Laenor gets to live a happy life while Rhaenyra gets to marry her uncle plus Rhaenyra didnât even love Cole, so it wouldâve been for nothing to run away with him and she wouldnât be happy, so long story short Cole wanted to leave to restore his precious honor while Laenor wanted to leave for happiness and love.
FireFist500
2022-10-05 07:15:08 +0000 UTCYou can never praise someone for doing the right things for the wrong reasons. Itâs exactly what Alicent was doing. She was being fake and for the first time she showed her true self. Rhaneyras kids be made legitimate heirs regardless of birth by the king anyway. Jon was made a Stark, Ramsey was made a Bolton.
Dirty_Oldman
2022-10-05 07:09:55 +0000 UTCExactly why I cannot respect her for that very reason itâs too petty! I understand she followed the rule, and she the queen but she no right to threaten kids when your son started the fight over their mother dragon! I know dragons claiming is first come first serve but still that comment he made about those poor girlâs momâs on her funeral day as well talking the boys real father knowing itâs treasonous to do so, he couldnât wait another day do that! Look at the queen kids vs the princess kids & you can see who is the better parent!
Ronaldus Thornton
2022-10-05 07:08:37 +0000 UTCNah screw Alicent and High Tower Iâm only loyal to team Rhaenyra and you guys gotta stop making excuses for Alicent at this point she just a hater towards Rhaenyra with nothing more than resentment and envy and everything she does will lead to her childrenâs death not to mention her resentment towards Rhaenyra happened 10 years ago she had enough time to get over it.
FireFist500
2022-10-05 06:55:56 +0000 UTCAlso, why does it matter if Rhaenyra's sons aren't Laenor's? Rhaenyra is the heir to the throne, not Laenor. They're her sons therefore her legitimate heirs. The only thing acknowledging them as bastards does is split the nobility. Give a reason for Civil War.
Argo2Unitard
2022-10-05 06:30:54 +0000 UTCPeople keep talking about 4v1 as if Aemond isn't a full foot taller than the 2nd biggest kid there. And the rest are way smaller.
Argo2Unitard
2022-10-05 06:21:56 +0000 UTCthe reason daemon laughed was because vaemond was calling out rhaenyra and her children by talking about how velaryon blood runs thick.
Kelschman
2022-10-05 06:15:54 +0000 UTCThe princess was asked to be married to her husband & produce heirs with him but she was placed in an impossible situation from the get-go. That just make Alicent a little more of grey characters nature like most in the thought the series but I am team black since I know what happens from other sources! Iâm not saying the princess was right either I know she in entitled, but she also knows that too! I respect Alicent ability to follow the rule & the customs but clearly sheâs as ambitious as her father, as well as hypocritical too because if everybody the rules like she say, that would have been one thing but we know by now they donât all follow all the rules like she claims most people in the Game of Thrones world! Plus Alicent is also mad because she secretly want a at least little bit the life of a princess has but is honorbound not to take it! The princess couldâve killed her husband like most would have, but instead let him live his life the way he want without any worry about being killed in the upcoming conflict safe from harm! I respect her more because that, plus think of it from her perspective sheâs placing her, Damon and their kids in more danger by letting him live, the greens are more safe than the blacks are right now because the greens have all the lord of the country on her brother side while she only got a Damon & her husband family in comparison, so thatâs why she had to get married to straighten her side too! but I do blame both sides for the dance of dragons!!!
Ronaldus Thornton
2022-10-05 06:11:46 +0000 UTCThe princess did not choose her match, but she accept her match from her father, the king may not know about her husband into menâs but they made it work! But she & his family both knew about him plus they both stated that they had tried to conceive a few times but failed a lot of people forget that people in loving heterosexual relationships sometimes have a hard time conceiving a baby, let along a relationship with man whoâs a into another menâs while with heterosexual woman in arranged marriage trying to have one would be even more difficult time conceiving. Sheâs placed as the heir to the throne by her father the king despite not wanting it initially, despite how shaky was her claim already from the get-go, she have to have heirs to further solidify her claim to the throne and the true responsibility of ancestor dream of the future that her father told her about before getting engaged! Alicent asking the king to reveal the legitimacy of the innocent kids will place their life in danger who didnât do anything wrong yet or asked to be born just to put your eldest son on the throne over his sister, ya ask why the king shield the princess, her kids & the strong family at the time because either she will be exile and strong family & her kids will be killed or theyâll be killed, so Alicent is asking for that outcome when she relentlessly keep bringing it up!
Ronaldus Thornton
2022-10-05 06:04:47 +0000 UTCI mean I get everyone has different opinions but I really donât understand what the hatred over rhaenrya because sheâs âspoiledâ which she is cause her father defends her but the greens are hella hypocritical because they also donât get condemned, like ser criston killing at the event, Alicent getting no punishment for literally threatening and hurting the heir to the throne like itâs just dumb
Briana Sierra
2022-10-05 05:47:28 +0000 UTCYou know ppl are lost if they think ottoâs motives are thinking whatâs best for the kingdom lol. More ppl need to realize the actual worse person in the show is viserys. This man allows his wife and his children to march around the entire kingdom in hightower war colors when they are supposed to be Targaryens and just does nothing. His naivety and weakness is literally the root cause of everything. He got tricked by otto to remove daemon as heir. then otto recommended rhaenyra be the heir while getting alicent to be with viserys while he grieved knowing full well the pressure to remarry would turn up with only a young girl in line for the throne since daemon was disinherited. Then when viserys caught on to ottoâs spy and had him sacked he decided to bring otto back as hand after already catching him plotting against his heir when he knows better then anyway he will die soon. All of this just makes no sense. Daemon literally called it ep 1 when he told viserys he is weak and that council of leeches knows it and he should have made him hand years ago to protect him from himself. Viserys allowed snakes into his family and his brother could see it but he decided to call otto one of the most honorable men while banishing his brother over some words in a brothel. Viserys caused and kinda deserves the next natural step of whatâs about to happen in his family
jason ross
2022-10-05 05:13:43 +0000 UTCi know everyone is team rhaenyra but i can understand alicents frustrations cuz no matter what once rhaenyra ascends the throne war will brew itâs just me i can see alicents viewpoint but trying to stab a kid yeah thatâs a no
Brandon Delacruz
2022-10-05 04:54:16 +0000 UTCAgreed. We canât say she hasnât done anything wrong when he whispers continue to put children in danger.
KenyBeans
2022-10-05 04:49:51 +0000 UTCBut I agree that Iâm so happy that Otto is back. I donât like him but makes the show interesting
KenyBeans
2022-10-05 04:44:17 +0000 UTCYeah Rhaenyra you tried to keep up appearances with your 3 white skinned, black of hair sons? Them boys are literally the opposite of how they should look. Better to have claimed Laenor impotent than try to pass off them boys as his sons. 1 maybe, not THREE. A different king would not only disinherit her but also disown and exile her (and/or kill the kids and their dad).
Pilausky
2022-10-05 04:41:27 +0000 UTCI wanted to clear up something Adorkable said at 60min and 30 seconds- not a spoiler!! The dragons are not owned by anyone. They can be claimed as long as their rider is not alive. They do not get passed down from family member to family member. The dragon choose who they follow
KenyBeans
2022-10-05 04:30:19 +0000 UTCHer main problem with it was Rhaenyra losing her virginity out of wedlock doesn't matter with who. It apparently being Daemon was just icing on the cake
Pilausky
2022-10-05 04:30:05 +0000 UTCI liked the intro and outro. I like what Adorkable and Director was saying about Alicent and The Hightowers. Team Hightower!đ
Jerome
2022-10-05 04:23:19 +0000 UTCOtto does not have the best interests of the kingdom at heart at all lol, he just wants power. He is literally single handedly about to start a civil war. The fact of the matter is that Rhaenyra's children are not bastards by law since they are recognized by Laenor as his children, and the only ones who care enough to contest are the hightowers (because it is a useful excuse for power). Even if they were Laenor's kids, Otto would still do everything in his power to try and crown Aegon. Literally nothing Rhaenyra has done has shown she would be any worse than Robert Baratheon who ruled for more than a decade in peacetime (we even see Rhaenyra give good advice on the small council last episode about how to deal with the blackwoods and brackens last episode while Alicent gave shitty advice). You also have Alicent basically confess the reason she has been upset for 10 YEARS!!! was just pure jealously of Rhaenyra this episode too. Instead of accepting the marriage proposal last episode her and Otto are going to start a civil war over jealously and lust for power.
terrakion.is.good
2022-10-05 04:22:05 +0000 UTCOfc which shouldâve happened but I also canât be TOO mad at alicent for thinking rhaenyra would like about a peace, because she did lie on her moms name.
MrGuy3000
2022-10-05 04:16:31 +0000 UTCAs far as im aware nobody has claim over the dragons, its who the dragon bonds with of their own choice. Technically cant steal a dragon but it 100% complicates things between the families. But i am on Aemonds side and im glad he defended himself when getting ganged up on.
Mintteacup
2022-10-05 04:16:28 +0000 UTCAegon originally didnât even want the throne until Otto put it in Alicentâs head and she put it in his. If they (including Aeogn) had publicly pledged their full support and stood behind Rhaenyra instead of planning to challenge her, there likely would be no war. A FULLY united house Targaryen with house velaryon behind them would not have been challenged seriously by the realm. The only reason there can even be a war is because both sides have dragons. If all the dragons were united itâs suicide.
James
2022-10-05 04:14:38 +0000 UTCI love your reactions but man it's hard to watch Alicent fans lol. Otto is actually the original start to this entire conflict. He hated Daemon so he manipulated the king to name Rhaenyra as heir instead. Then he sent his daughter to the king. I'm sorry but right now Alicent is the only person escalating shit. She is just jealous and bitter because she can't live the same life. If she is such a rule follower, then she needs to sit down shut up and do what the king says. His word is the law weather its right or wrong. At no point did Rhaenyra give any indication that she would kill the Alicent's kids. Otto said that. It's not a 100% guarantee that there will be a war when Rhaenyra comes into power but if there was a war and Alicent followed the rules and stood behind her they would have every dragon and a united front to end the war quickly. But no, Alicent wants to be a bitter cunt and is guaranteeing a civil war.
Joseph LeRoy
2022-10-05 04:13:14 +0000 UTCyou were on the mark, Lee. dragons live for many years so they can have multiple riders. Vhagar is the oldest atm since Balerion the Dread died. Vhagar's first master was Visenya (Aegon the Conqueror's sister) so Laena wasnt even Vhagar's first rider. dragons arent like titles so its not like Laena's family had a "right" to Vhagar, plus Aemond is technically family too lol. Afterall, Laena herself has no connection to Vhagar's previous riders besides having Targaryan blood. I guess its more like first come first serve and if the dragon accepts u, then ur good.
Danny
2022-10-05 04:10:19 +0000 UTCIt's so funny hearing folks ignore Alicent's issues. I'm like yall...she is complaining about Rhae using the same privilege she has...but she uses it differently. Any other king....would have physically and verbally sat her ass down. She has the same privilege of doing/saying whatever she wants. It just irks her that she can't convince Viserys to legally change the heir from Rhae to her son. She is literally trying to usurp the throne. Honor....duty...those words mean nothing to Alicent. If they did, she wouldn't be throwing a fit about her son not being heir. She would accept whatever the king said.
ManicMeeks
2022-10-05 04:10:10 +0000 UTCAlicent is in the wrong . She's jealous of Rhaenyras freedom. She let's the people around her influence her. She's also a hypocrite, marrying her children to each other when that's a problem she had with Rhaenyra supposedly fucking her unclein the earlier episode. Her Son's are assholes when compared with Rhaenyra and Daemons which shows you how she is as a parent.
Sandeepunni
2022-10-05 03:50:56 +0000 UTCMaybe but thatâs on Otto he put her in that spot but she doesnt realize. To take that out on rhaenyra is unfair. But In that regard I can understand why she doesnât trust her because she lied to her already.
MrGuy3000
2022-10-05 03:46:14 +0000 UTCI feel like Alicent is mostly mad because her and her kids will probably be caught up in some succession war because people will fight to have the kings first borns be heir no matter what
Mintteacup
2022-10-05 03:43:45 +0000 UTCAlicent to me is like a Christian getting mad over people living the lives that they canât/donât want to. Like literally no one is doing anything about rhaenyras bastards and her getting mad over that is starting a war. NOT SAYING RHAENYRA IS IN THE RIGHT but being in the right is based on what the kings says, he says theyâre legit so no one cares.
MrGuy3000
2022-10-05 03:23:57 +0000 UTCHotD!
Pilausky
2022-10-05 02:42:58 +0000 UTCAppreciate that. Nice to read that itâs noticed
Rock Lee
2022-10-05 02:33:47 +0000 UTCIt should play
Rock Lee
2022-10-05 02:32:58 +0000 UTCYour dedication is crazy respectable considering how much you all are going through to bring us content. Hope everything gets back to normal for you all soon.
James
2022-10-05 02:26:22 +0000 UTC
