Finally, I was able to watch this one. I'm so glad you guys liked this episode as a lot of people seem to not like it as much as the others. I do agree with what you mentioned and although Ritsu is indeed annoying for me, due to the all-over-the-top reactions etc, I don't hate him more than Kagura who imo is a lot worse to deal with but people tend to emphatize more.
I like the way they did this story in the anime, changing a bit of the dated conception of cross-dressers and trans people. I also like that it is not fully defined what exactly Ritsu is and it is more up to each person's interpretation.
Liuzetz
2023-10-13 14:46:56 +0000 UTC
honestly me too, I don't think this episode is that much worse than Kagura. Generally though I think the introduction episodes for these characters are when they're most overtop
holyfuzazzle
2023-10-11 11:36:32 +0000 UTC
i didn't realize how many people disliked that episode haha;i relate to Ritsu too so i like the episode a lot (i'm not as expressive as he is but yeah) and also Tohru speech.
11am09
2023-10-10 19:52:24 +0000 UTC
Yeah I get that, the Kagura intro episode is actually my second least favorite in the show lmao so I guess I have a pattern of what I don't like ๐. Oh also I saw your reply to another comment and I just want to say the reason I dislike this episode is not at all because of Ritsu's trans coding. In fact, this episode is a BIG STEP UP from the manga which was accidentally super transphobic ๐ญ. In the manga Ritsu's cross dressing is seen as a bad thing and they have to stop doing it to "grow up". Ritsu dressing like a man and filling male gender roles is treated as a coming of age thing, so I'm glad they changed that here and just focused on the over apologizing aspect.
Francesca White
2023-10-10 18:48:15 +0000 UTC
as far as Ritsu goes, I don't find him much more annoying than his mom or Kagura lol
BOLDcast
2023-10-10 18:44:44 +0000 UTC
thats funny to me cause I don't find ritsu anymore over the top than Kagura or Ayame
BOLDcast
2023-10-10 18:22:23 +0000 UTC
Honestly being out and trans is scarier rn than it was in 2016 ๐ฅฒ like anyone will try and debate you about your own gender on the street or just online. Especially when now everyone on the news is just calling us groomers for just being trans. America is wild man.
Dave
2023-10-10 18:02:30 +0000 UTC
They just think Ritsu is really annoying is the main reason, all the over the top stuff in this episode doesnโt go down well. Some of it is definitely the gender stuff not being seen as progressive to western audiences, and tbe suicide jokes, but most of the complaints seem to be about how Ritsu behaves.
holyfuzazzle
2023-10-10 18:01:46 +0000 UTC
For me it's just the constant screaming of Ritsu ๐ญ๐ญ like it's the same joke over and over with the screaming "I'm sorry". Though there are a few moments I like, like Tohru on the roof talking about finding her reason to live and Ritsu and Shigures editor supporting each other
Francesca White
2023-10-10 17:42:45 +0000 UTC
really? all good i guess but why do people hate it so much?
BOLDcast
2023-10-10 17:40:46 +0000 UTC
why don't people like it? just cause of the trans/crossdressing stuff?
BOLDcast
2023-10-10 17:40:27 +0000 UTC
Not my favorite episode, but I do find the discussion interesting as usual. A common trope in early 2000's shoujo manga is the straight crossdressing man. There have been times where it gets a little more progressive (Lovely Complex iykyk) but are still problematic by today's standards.
april ๐
2023-10-10 16:56:30 +0000 UTC
Was really worried you guys were gonna hate this eps alot but you guys always surprise me loving the discussions as always and it's definitely uphill from here.
FrankThaTank
2023-10-10 16:48:59 +0000 UTC
this is widely agreed to be worst episode, so uphill from here? LMAO. which is also interesting cuz it feels like you disliked episode 10 more ๐ normally reactions to this episode are not super well anticipated because no one likes it, but i enjoyed your reaction and discussion! you took it in an interesting direction and rare to see! there's a lot of stuff you said that i wanna revisit by the time you get to the end of the series. thanks for making this unpopular episode entertaining and providing lots of food for thought!
holyfuzazzle
2023-10-10 15:38:51 +0000 UTC
Sadly I must skip this reaction, not because of you guys but because I cringe too much at this episode ๐ probably the worst episode in the show in my opinion lmao