Sorry, I just studied Japanese, although I do work as a translator for it (into my language, not English). I'm also not familiar with the different English subs, and I only read the manga in Japanese so I don't know the scanlations very well either. I'm sorry, that's extremely unhelpful, I know! I linked some chapters on manganato in another comment, and they seemed perfectly fine to me. I don't know very much about the official English translation, though.
The most significant thing I've seen that all English translations have wrong (fansubs and scanlations too, from what I've seen) is that they call Aqua Ragna the Aqua Laguna. Maybe because they didn't realise it comes from Ragnarok (end of the world in Norse Myth)? But you also can't even write "Laguna" in Japanese the way it's written in the manga, so I don't know why that happened.
Mostly what I see from what's used by Boldcast here is that the subs seem a little... sloppy? They do get a lot of what Zoro says slightly wrong because he tends to use expressions that allude to samurai tradition, and that is more work to translate.
For example, when he meets Luffy and tells him that if Luffy stands in the way of his ambition, he must cut open his belly to make amends. I think the subs said something along the lines of "if you stand in my way you must apologise to me", which is... *technically* in the same general direction, lol. But it fails completley to capture the tone and seriousness of the moment.
There's also the bit where he fights captain Kuro's pirates with only one sword. The subs said "he's not that great with one sword", but what he's really saying is that fighting with one sword just isn't his *speciality*. And that's just a normal expression, that's really just the translation being sloppy.
desolate leng
2023-12-04 10:24:51 +0000 UTC
If your japanese, can you please tell me rather or not Crunchy subs are accurate to the original source or if funimation is more accurate. I seem to identify alot of mistakes in the translation and gramatical errors with CR subs. How ever when I read the unofficial scanlations for the manga, they just seem more authenticate to me. Like the previous lines in the most recent arc with the battle against (Kdo), it was just so terrible and very simple like it was a google translation. Ymto's speech for example was one of the highlights of that chapter and so was Kdo's dialogue, but the shoddy translation really brought it down.
Artimes
2023-12-04 09:29:40 +0000 UTC
Smoker is so great. A bit of a rogue within the Marine, you could say!
I bet you've alredy heard this by now, but Loguetown comes from the UK English spelling of prologue/epilogue, because it's "the city of the beginning and the end".
This short arc that follow the longer intense Arlong arc has so much interesting lore, doesn't it? Like a tease of what you can expect in the future.
Just a heads up: there is a lot of non-canon padding in these episodes where I think the characters are just a little off. A few examples:
- Luffy not drinking alcohol. You've even already seen him do it, when they welcome Usopp to the crew.
- The scene with Sanji talking about women as food.
- The whole bit of Zoro meeting Tashigi before the sword shop and breaking her glasses and being taken to the marine base.
- Luffy getting lost on his way to the execution platform, him failing to climb it, getting stuck, and flying away across the town.
Since Loguetown is only four chapters (96-100) stretching that to six episodes made filler necessary, but there are a few instances where I think it did the characters a disservice.
It's funny what you say about old guy at the bar, because technically he *is* filler. What he's saying is pretty much all canon, but he himself is only in the novelisation of this arc, as far as I know. Supposedly Oda wanted to include this bit in the manga, but I don't have a source for that.
(This arc is particularly bad with filler within otherwise canon episodes. There are fewer canon scenes than filler scenes, lol. The filler isn't about the plot or lore reveals though, it's mostly the characters behaving more like idiots than they normally would. The sword shop scene is completely canon, of course, aside from Tashigi commenting on Zoro leaving the marine base.)
Zoro didn't know the name of Kuina's sword, he asked for it to carry her will. But it says a lot that her father let him have it, I think, because *he* must have known about it.
About the classifications: "wazamono" (業物) can mean something along the lines of "artisan made thing", literally. But it's specifically used (historically in real life too) for swords made by a master swordsmith.
In One Piece there are three grades above the basic one. One is ō-wazamono (大業物), "great artisan blade", of which there are 21. Wadō ichimonji is one of those. Yubashiri is a ryō-wazamono (良業物) "good artisan blade", so not as fine, but still an extremely valuable sword. There are only 12 saijō ō-wazamono (最上大業物) "finest/supreme great artisan blade", which is the highest grade.
These are actually the same classifications as in the historical Edo period list of artisan blades made by the blade tester and offical executioner Yamada Asaemon. Even in real life there were only 12 saijō ō-wazamono!
("Artisan" may not be the best translation, english is my second language. I don't know what the official English manga says about it.)
It doesn't come up in the manga, but in one of the databooks it's revealed that Mihawk's blade is indeed a saijō ō-wazamono! It's called "Yoru" (night).
desolate leng
2023-12-02 19:10:25 +0000 UTC
My dream is to best the current strongest janitor in single combat and become the greatest janitor in the world.
KaijinGarou
2023-12-02 16:57:05 +0000 UTC
Gold Roger's scene does work better here. Not only because no one strong like Garp was around but because the marines who were, were really trying to stop him and skewered him as soon as he started talking. In the LA, Garp was like "hey, don't tell em. Rog, don't. OK, you're telling them. Can you please not? I might give the order to kill you, you know!" xD
KaijinGarou
2023-12-02 16:41:25 +0000 UTC
Chaotic intros are back! That I like to see 🤣
KaijinGarou
2023-12-02 16:14:20 +0000 UTC
Please, upload the episodes in order. I'm a person easy to be confused already without your help 🤣
KaijinGarou
2023-12-02 16:11:02 +0000 UTC
All of your questions will be answered, just be patient.