One Piece Episode 285 UNCUT REACTION!
Added 2024-07-23 15:27:14 +0000 UTCComments
contrary... rather than describing the scene, mentioning the arc name and character names involved, I deliberately mentioned where exactly to look at so they will have no clue what I'm talking about... BOLDcast of course will not attempt to watch that... just trying to clear the doubts of inconsistency in regards to Seastone byproducts they also questioned how they make byproducts if it's indestructible, I answered it in previous comment "raw or unprocessed form of seastone is still not shown but there are craftsmen that have expertise in working with the material... and there's also a skill level to forge it into delicate items... "
josephocenada
2024-07-26 15:15:51 +0000 UTCIdk if thats consider as a Spoiler but maybe we should not mention future episodes number. I know what scene you’re talking tho.
Zannen Da
2024-07-26 13:26:07 +0000 UTCNah he just doesn't get that during this arc op was still a small phenomenon nit this world wide success, specially after that 4 kidz butchery, I don't blame him it's only human after all.
Mo za
2024-07-26 10:02:44 +0000 UTCZoro gets lost because of the cursed sword he got in lounge town and he avoids stairs because of kuina trauma.
Mo za
2024-07-26 09:59:54 +0000 UTCoh, I remember a future canon episode that NET was again shown not fully made of seastone material... Episode 431, 18:50 also back to 16:40 when it was mentioned that it's a seastone net but also made of iron
josephocenada
2024-07-26 06:11:21 +0000 UTCYou should rewatch the moment in episode 202, its written weirdly but hey, it’s filler.
Zannen Da
2024-07-26 05:13:29 +0000 UTCafaik, the materials of a Seastone NET are not fully Seastone.. only the intersections of the strings have seastones, the rest of the strings or the strings itself probably made from a different material... so Zoro cutting the seastone net in a filler arc is forgivable
josephocenada
2024-07-26 04:57:48 +0000 UTCIt is and theres a special op 8 with the op’s singers having cameos in the op. Crunchyroll just doesn’t have the rights, so Idk if they’re informed about it.
JojoJack
2024-07-26 04:44:39 +0000 UTCIs this your second rewatch/reread of Enies Lobby?
Zannen Da
2024-07-26 04:32:50 +0000 UTC@Michael Moritz Fukurou said in this episode, “Sea Prism Stone is hard like diamonds,” and in the manga chapter, he says, they’re “as hard as diamonds.” So saying the sea prism stone is indestructible or unbreakable is up for interpretation because a person could interpret diamonds as unbreakable. Jojo reference.
Zannen Da
2024-07-26 03:08:55 +0000 UTC@Ray Den Zoro did cut a Seastone-embedded net in the G8 arc when Luffy got caught in one.
Zannen Da
2024-07-26 02:42:26 +0000 UTChmm youre correct now that I think about it, but judging from other comments It seems like they watched a filler episode where sea stone was cut? which could be why they made that connection in the first place. im just more so confused now that people are correcting them that sea stone is in fact indestructible this early on. just genuinely curious
R
2024-07-26 01:01:28 +0000 UTCSPOILER? You're missing the fact that nothing has ever indicated that sea prism is basically unbreakable in the show yet, so how would they know that? I don't remember them talking about how strong it truly is until Dressrosa
Michael Moritz
2024-07-26 00:49:05 +0000 UTCI am a little confused as to why they think zoro can cut sea prism stone . am I missing something?
Ray Den
2024-07-25 21:59:52 +0000 UTCI defintely agree
L.Joy
2024-07-25 17:18:12 +0000 UTCSad they didnt keep going with it but glad its back now
Hening Honing
2024-07-25 14:50:20 +0000 UTCIsn't opening 8 ok?
Albanese
2024-07-25 02:14:10 +0000 UTCPersonally, I've always preferred Water 7 over Enies Lobby (hot take). I find that Water 7 is able to avoid the silly tropes that Oda established in earlier arcs. It all felt very natural and intentional.
Tope
2024-07-25 01:22:20 +0000 UTCi can see what you mean, he gets better with time the way he handles things
Gino
2024-07-24 22:04:37 +0000 UTC@ideo well its my view on things. I like the story arc and it has some great heroic moments for the straw hats, but to say this is the highest oda will achieve. Its like saying the pain arc is the best in naruto and after that, the series kind of goes down hill and runs into alot of dues ex machina's and plot consistencies. Well that is true for naruto for sure, that is certainly NOT the case for one piece. So i just want to make that clear that people watching this now, its good for pre world story but you know how they say "Can we get much higher, so high" Yes one piece gets higher
Artemis
2024-07-24 20:11:36 +0000 UTC@Gino No thats a character trait intentionally written by oda, a big difference
Artemis
2024-07-24 20:06:20 +0000 UTCnitpicker
ideo
2024-07-24 17:52:04 +0000 UTCDude, Zoro gets lost every 10 seconds, that doesn't make sense either.
Gino
2024-07-24 16:21:04 +0000 UTCR.I.P. one piece endings
Rasegy Buldiga
2024-07-24 09:20:21 +0000 UTCraw or unprocessed form of seastone is still not shown but there are craftsmen that have expertise in working with the material... and there's also a skill level to forge it into delicate items... maybe just think of it for now as a valyrian kryptonite 😅
josephocenada
2024-07-24 08:43:26 +0000 UTCYeah i see what you mean There's a feeling of deflecting from the main goal but i guess it comes down to narrative choice in this case, as it's also a battle shonen with many matchups. The story could theorically just focus on taking Robin back but that'd be a different kind of story. It can also feel a bit jarring after we left the sombrer story of Ohara, but i think it tells more about how the Strawhats don't know about it so to them the situation never changed (tho it did for the viewer), and they keep doing their thing.
Sanji Joestar
2024-07-24 07:48:33 +0000 UTCI get why it needs to happen for the story and it's not like I hate the way it's handled, but the keys do kinda feel like a distraction compared to the larger goal of saving Robin herself. If the handcuffs were somehow an active threat to Robin's life, that would warrant all this urgency over nabbing those keys. Like if prolonged exposure to sea-prism stone was toxic for DF users or something, just as an example.
100Rainy
2024-07-24 05:24:10 +0000 UTCThis is what people say is the best of one piece? Yeah, I definitely disagree. The level of direction, planning, and consistent plotting of the story that Oda gets to later supercedes any of these kinds of premature writing blocks that are just there for convenient plot annoyances like the whole "Keys aspect." I never did like that. But I will say it reminds me of a classic arcade video game where you have to climb the towers, beat the bosses at the end of each floor, get the keys, and make it to the top to rescue the princess. Maybe Oda was partly inspired by Nintendo and arcade cabinets, or maybe even old fairy tale stories that go way back when writing this arc. The live-action series didn't become a thing based up to this point in the story; this is pretty much your everyday Saturday morning cartoon still. It is because of what OP eventually explodes into later. Though I don't want to undermind it too much, upcoming is a scene that I think is one of the top 5 best moments in the whole series, so yeah.. but still, there are clearly flaws that inpede the pacing of the story for "reasons" that really make no sense other than because it's "a shonen story and we have to have everyone fight." Though at least the fights are more significant and not canon fodder like it was in previous arcs.
Artemis
2024-07-24 05:02:31 +0000 UTCimagine if they can cut her hands and then she regrows them back
Gino
2024-07-24 04:34:26 +0000 UTCAnd that's why they sent Luffy after Lucci The trust between them that each which fulfill their task and like Luffy said against Arlong he may not be skilled in many things but, he got his crew for that, so he can focus on defeating his goal. Is it overconfidence ? Maybe? Does it work? Only time will tell
Sanji Joestar
2024-07-24 03:52:52 +0000 UTCYep
Sanji Joestar
2024-07-24 03:50:21 +0000 UTCthat question will be answered later on. dw about it
Baronizer
2024-07-24 03:42:17 +0000 UTCThat's why I said it's nearly indestructible, we just know they can craft it into bars for cages or handcuffs. It's still one of the toughest materials so far as it's compared to diamonds in the story and someone like Zoro can't cut through it. That's why Mr1 asked Zoro ''What do you plan to cut through next? Diamonds?'' And he said ''That'd be a waste.'' as a snarky remark. That's telling you Zoro can't cut through something like Diamond yet, which goes back to the comparison with SeaPrism Stone. So that's why they need the keys.
Sanji Joestar
2024-07-24 02:41:51 +0000 UTCThey know that. They just feel securing Robin is far more important than securing the keys. If they catch up to Robin but lose the keys, she stays handcuffed but at least she survives. If they win the keys but lose Robin, she dies. Focusing on the keys is a gamble that doesn't seem worth it considering what they might lose in the process.
100Rainy
2024-07-24 02:38:38 +0000 UTCIf it’s indestructible how did they make the handcuffs and cages in the first place?
BOLDcast
2024-07-24 02:36:13 +0000 UTCYou do need the Keys.
Dan Bax
2024-07-24 02:20:41 +0000 UTCSmall correction but Jabra (the guy Usopp ran into) is the 3rd strongest. It goes Lucci > Kaku > Jabra > Blueno > Kumadori (staff guy) > Fukuro (zipper mouth) > and then Kalifa last
Michael DeArmas
2024-07-23 23:39:10 +0000 UTCYeah He has the power of Supa Supa no Mi/Dice Dice Fruit Supa being a word representing the '' sound of cutting something '' So his fruit is more about how he has the ability to cut things with his power, thanks to him being made of Iron, rather than about what his body is made of.
Sanji Joestar
2024-07-23 22:55:21 +0000 UTCIt doesn't make a ton of sense that Mr. 1 would not be made of steel since his ability is to slice things and an iron slicing tool would be a lot less effective than a steel one. But I guess his power is the weird thing, not the steel vs iron classifications in the OP world. He has the Supa Supa no mi not the Kotetsu Kotetsu no mi, so what can ya do
ChocoBoshi
2024-07-23 22:50:47 +0000 UTCYou're welcome
Sanji Joestar
2024-07-23 22:48:21 +0000 UTCCool, thanks
ChocoBoshi
2024-07-23 22:47:48 +0000 UTCHere's a link to a post breaking down the differences (involves post Enies Lobby spoilers) https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/10yn11s/steel_or_iron_looking_at_the_translations_for/
Sanji Joestar
2024-07-23 22:29:29 +0000 UTCWhere are you getting the info that Iron and Steel are different classifications in the One Piece world? The description for Mr. 1's powers says that his body can become steel blades, not iron blades.
ChocoBoshi
2024-07-23 22:20:07 +0000 UTCYeah there's some filler scene like Luffy and his crew meeting Fullbody after Arlong Park where Zoro cuts a cannon ball in half. And other rare inconsistencies regarding the anime but I don't really remember them
Sanji Joestar
2024-07-23 20:33:49 +0000 UTCAnother detail About devil fruit users' weakness to sea in general is there's a bit of a misconception. Oda explained in an Sbs asking him about how Df users like Crocodile take a bath and this was his answer(a lengthy one) but here goes. Q: "Odacchi! Here's a question for you! Crocodile can't fight water because he's "sand," right? Then how does he bathe?! Does he at all?! That's filthy!! Do you bathe, Odacchi? - by 'Crocodile's Mother' A: " First of all, let's discuss the problem of Devil Fruit users bathing themselves. People who have eaten a Devil Fruit are "hated" by the sea, and cannot swim. The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water. On a worldwide level, they are all the "sea." When these people enter the water, not only can they not use their powers, they have trouble moving their bodies at all. They might be able to struggle a bit, but it wouldn't do much good. That's if their entire bodies are submerged in the "sea." With less than half the body or just the limbs, it gets easier. Also, rain and dripping water have no effect at all. Therefore, hip baths or showers are the most common choice. Now, in Crocodile's case, "water" is the weakness of his very powers, so his abilities are robbed even in the shower. But it's not like there are enemies around when you take a shower, so I'd bet he would take them even with his powers being blocked. Don't you think? ---And to answer your final question, about myself bathing. As it happens, I do bathe. Twice! In a year! " (Source: SBS Volume 41, Chapter 398, Page 206) TL;DR: The level of weakness depends on the level of immersion of the user. That's why Aokiji was able to freeze the sea by just putting his hand in the water, while Luffy was unable to move in Arlong's pool even with his head out. And a shower for example would be fine like rain, but a bath would be problematic.
Sanji Joestar
2024-07-23 20:28:31 +0000 UTCSeaStone is established as nearly indestructible Regarding Zoro's ability to cut through metal It's a very easy to miss detail because of the difference in localization but from what's been established: Zoro can cut through Iron (Tetsu), but Steel(Kotetsu) is a harder material. And Seaprism Stone is above that in terms of toughness. Regarding Robin's weakness compared to Luffy touching the bars remember that Pagaya explained how Sea Clouds and Island Clouds are made from pyrobloin expulsed through volcanic eruptions, that pyrobloin can be found in Seaprism Stone. And depending on the degree of that substance in water vapor you can have either the more liquid Sea Cloud, or the more solid Island Cloud. It's not mentioned whether that pyrobloin is the reason Devil Fruits users get weak but just know that the degree of weakness can vary depending on the cage or handcuffs' constitution. And these handcuffs are made to allow prisoners to move enough while disabling their powers.
Sanji Joestar
2024-07-23 20:22:59 +0000 UTCyea idk what happened in filler but sea prism stones are indestructible or always have been shown to be.
Chris Shadow
2024-07-23 20:22:23 +0000 UTCCutting sea prism stone only works in fillers and one piece video games. Also, Jabra is third strongest of the CP9, Kalifa is in last place on CP9 power levels (minus DF power).
Zannen Da
2024-07-23 19:13:32 +0000 UTCMan I can never trust Gonbe and Chimney. They are always up to something.
EOussama
2024-07-23 18:09:11 +0000 UTCThanks :)
Nikolai Stoykov .
2024-07-23 17:29:04 +0000 UTCsea prism stones are nearly indestructable. good questions where asked and shall be answered
Baronizer
2024-07-23 17:27:31 +0000 UTCdude chimney and gonbe are just OP
Baronizer
2024-07-23 17:26:15 +0000 UTCahhhh im so hypeddddd
Baronizer
2024-07-23 17:24:56 +0000 UTCA gun eating a devil fruit - > boldcast sleeps A sword eating a devil fruit - > boldcast awake :p On a more serious note: yes, seastone is more or less established as indestructible. Why did oda decide to use keys instead of Cp9 intercepting and splitting up the straw hats?! Nobody knows. Probably because he thought it was funnier. (or I missed an sbs regarding that)
Drakojin
2024-07-23 16:35:30 +0000 UTChavent watched it yet, will probably watch it tonight!
BOLDcast
2024-07-23 16:16:09 +0000 UTCWhen HotD 2x6 uncut? :)
Nikolai Stoykov .
2024-07-23 15:32:56 +0000 UTC
