One Piece Eps 288 & 289 EARLY REACTION!
Added 2024-08-06 07:55:38 +0000 UTC
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Sarumane
2024-08-10 08:03:26 +0000 UTC@ Beannieswife I totally feel that. There are parts of One Piece that are hard for me to accept sometimes and with some of them I honestly just don't XD. A silly example would be Zoro and Luffy's fight in Whiskey Peak. Its such an out of character moment that I don't really accept it as part of the narrative, I kind of just take it as a joke that sort of breaks the fourth wall. I think One Piece sets itself up particularly well to have these story breaking moments that some people will enjoy and some will dislike but regardless you can partition them off from the rest of the story so that they don't really affect anything outside of that moment. It's sort of like how peoples size/height changes depending on the scene they're in, its just a way of visually making someone intimidating and shouldn't be used to actually draw scale in the OP universe. One Piece does hold such a special place in my heart, I first experienced it when I was young and had no idea how intricate stories, or even written/verbal communication could be, and since I started my journey I have grown so much as a person. I feel like in a lot of ways One Piece has grown with, and helped me to grow too. So, for all that, ill afford it a few jokes that don't land well with me XD. There's actually a moment coming up in the next arc that I think you know, centered around an invisible dude, that I basically just have to reject all together. To me, that isn't Sanji, the real Sanji is the guy who stands up to a "Bear" with Zoro at the end of the arc. @ Fay_Lazward Yeah, I totally get that its a cultural difference thing, that's why I let it slide a lot of the time. Mixed in with what I said in the paragraph above I mentioned how I don't think that those gag moments are meant to be taken as actually character defining moments. I also think that some of the humor, especially at this time, was marketed towards a much younger male audience. To be honest, despite my being part of that demographic at the start, some of the gags never really appealed to me. I assume because of cultural differences. Regardless of the parts that I don't vibe with fully, I loooooove Oda's humor like 85% of the time, I love the dry humor stuff. Like Luffy calling Zoro "four sword style" or when the stairway passage in Alabasta looks "gator-ish". "Of course you can walk on clouds", "Why is the dial insulting Usopp!", "Chopper being in aww of Luffy's stick he found in upper yard" these are other examples that will never not be funny to me.
ChocoBoshi
2024-08-07 23:10:31 +0000 UTC@ChocoBoshi, I entirely understand your take and opinion here. I recently talked to one friend in my office who read One Piece till the Water 7 arc ( I don't think she finished the whole arc yet), and being French, she felt very uncomfortable with the gag with Sanji(whose design, as you know, from France). As Asian I think I am more tolerant to those pervy gags, which idk if its for good or bad, is quite a gags that older gen Asian male enjoys. So to me, it's more of an 'oh right, that's again' situation; that part I just separates it from the core character of Sanji. And I cant remember if we had this conversation or not, that I think the Anime team didn't do Sanji justice at times cas they expanded the pervy gags like A LOT. Well, I guess more for the older male production teams liking, like using him for some pervy gags to filling the gap of the conversation ( if I'm wrong id say sorry here ;P). I have a history similar to yours with One Piece. I started reading it during my teenage years, which was WAY back in the day. I think at the time, it was just finished the Skypia arc when I first encountered it. A few years later I decided to watch the anime, that I slowly realized a lot more weirdly placing jokes( not only include the pervy gags). And its not getting too much better even in the more recent years. Ive watched Japanese variety show for more than a decade, I can guarantee you those pervy jokes they used in OP is not even the extremes of the things I've seen(it is air during morning time frame so, you gonna watch out for the kids) but it still follow the same trend of their culture. Which is a bit sad imo.
Fay_Lazward
2024-08-07 22:32:26 +0000 UTCI resonate with your take on it too! I literally prefer the scenes where they throw a big party after luffy finally beats the villain than the actual fight sequences, I love the heart of this show, the characters, world building, I love it so much that when I see things that make me uncomfortable I get annoyed because that means that this thing that I love so much is a little less mine now, and that might be cheesy af lmao but as a writer I take my favorite media seriously haha. there’s bits of this story that I cant claim to hold in a dear place like the others, and that’s why I think it’s ok to love something and still have things that you don’t agree with, to me it just proves interest and love for it too
beannieswife
2024-08-07 14:48:20 +0000 UTCThat’s true We don’t actually think that
BOLDcast
2024-08-07 01:42:45 +0000 UTCI've watched most of One Piece multiple times at this point but the last time I actually saw the whole thing in its entirety was back when I started watching when I was like 15 around 12 years ago. I was obviously a lot less mature back then and all the joking around didn't really bug me at all. I love One Piece more now than I ever have but I definitely find the gag moments that cut up more serious interactions to be more grating than I ever have. That isn't to say that I hate every gag, I find myself laughing at ~80% of them. There are certainly ones that don't land however, even for me, a diehard One Piece fan. I think in a lot of ways the One Piece anime overall is best experienced in retrospect. For example, in my mind I cut out alot of the in-between moments and only really retain the narratively meaningful moments when I'm reminiscing on certain parts of the story. I think it improves at balancing serious with gag later on, however Sanji is for sure a polarizing character, its honestly hard for me to understand who enjoys his pervy behavior, I don't get it.
ChocoBoshi
2024-08-07 01:32:14 +0000 UTCTrue lol but I was talking about the previous arc (chapter 924)
Tony Tony Helicopter
2024-08-06 21:20:58 +0000 UTCBleh were we are now you miss more than 2 chapters and the amount of lore you're unaware of gets exponential, I'm like a month behind.
Tomas
2024-08-06 20:32:20 +0000 UTCAre you caught up? Cause there is an actual answer to this. Also this far we only have seen Marines & Crocodile (a WG-affiliate) use weapons made out of them.
Tony Tony Helicopter
2024-08-06 20:13:45 +0000 UTCHad a good laugh at the idea that devil fruit users needing to be a little dumb. That and seeing Kaku as too cool to be acting the way he is now are biases that come in tandem with how some of the writing unintentionally guides you. If you present Kaku's character without knowing he has to be Zoro's direct rival for this arc intelligence is way less implied. And the series did a big thing of avoiding starting with real regular powers, Ace's entire existence is kind of showing up and revealing what One Piece would look like as a more edgy series. Could you imagine the protagonist was a guy going around burning people alive instead of funny rubber tricks? Buggy, Alvida, and even Smoker kind of help make all of Baroque work's powers seem cooler. But thinking that theres any connection to the ability of a devil fruit power and intelligence is like memory holeing a few characters.
Tomas
2024-08-06 19:50:25 +0000 UTCyeaaah the fandom is divided for sure, there’s several types of one piece enjoyers, for example, I absolutely love luffy and his gags, while there’s ppl that find him annoying (?), and then there’s sanji, I like him but I find his gag annoying but there’s ppl that find it hilarious lol
beannieswife
2024-08-06 19:26:40 +0000 UTCTo me the biggest Devil Fruit power discrepancy to me is always going to be the "nobody can afford Seastone bullets" deal the series has been living on. Back when the economy was better they used to be able to afford nets, but now the only worry is the cuffs or cages. I think maybe seastone doesn't fly right or something, even the king of sniper island missed his shot trying to shoot them.
Tomas
2024-08-06 19:11:36 +0000 UTCI always like to see that flashback way back at like episode 5 or 6 to be a representation of the OP fanbase. It opens with Buggy and Shanks argueing over which is coldest the North or South Pole, the fans are exactly the same argueing which is coolest about One Piece the Jokes or the Action.
Tomas
2024-08-06 19:07:31 +0000 UTCyou guys just explained exactly how i feel about gags in one piece, and a lot of op fans tell me that i just hate the show for not liking a gag😭 like be so fr some of them are really just unnecessary
beannieswife
2024-08-06 18:48:06 +0000 UTCAs for Robin's Sea Prism Stone handcuffs, I would like to refer to what Pagaya said back in Skypiea. He explained that pyrobloin (which gets shot up into the sky via volcanoes) is a dense mineral, which creates the sea clouds by absorbing atmospheric moisture. More importantly, he stated, that this moisture-absorbing substance is found in Sea Prism Stone. Someone had to craft those cages & cuffs, despite their so-far-shown indestructibility, since those things growing on trees seems rather absurd, even for One Piece. So what exactly stops the manufacturers from adjusting the pyrobloin levels to the respective purposes of what's being made? The cages would need to be of the highest purity level, literally simulating the environment of being submerged in the sea (as Smoker said back in the cage in Alabasta), considering otherwise Logia prisoners could just transform & escape through the openings. While with cuffs, you still want your devil fruit detainee to only be weakened enough to the point of still being able to move around.
Tony Tony Helicopter
2024-08-06 11:45:55 +0000 UTCHijacking this since there was a quite a bit of misinformation under the uncut of 288. It has always been the case that the more you are submerged in a body of water, the weaker you get. It also doesn't make you magically "forget" how to swim. It just makes you too weak to the point of being unable to swim & also too weak to use your non-permanent devil fruit powers (Luffy being rubber is permanent, not something that is activated like a Logia). The show so far has never contradicted itself in that afaik... it's literally just the Live Action's scenes with Buggy & Arlong that planted the idea of being splashed being enough to render someone useless. There was many people telling you "it is just seawater", which is simply due to a too common misconception... HOWEVER not because the show hasn't shown devil fruit users drown in freshwater, but rather (with how much more prevalent seawater is in this world) a simple confirmation bias, that has people believing an unstated limitation to be more specific than it actually is.
Tony Tony Helicopter
2024-08-06 11:42:13 +0000 UTC
