One Piece Episode 316 UNCUT REACTION!
Added 2024-08-27 23:47:52 +0000 UTCComments
Where in the story is it confirmed that Shanks used Haki on the Sea King? It's not, so obviously there's no "waiting for the story to explain it to them". I understand the sensitivity around story spoilers, or even how just vaguely alluding to a character's personality, or even just "can't wait for you do see [x]!" or "watch out for [y]!" can be considered a spoiler - I obviously would never want to do that... but this is a non-issue. Yes, it's an "assumption" - but it's not an assumption about [x] "nice" character being revealed to be a villain in 200 chapters or something, it's an assumption how the world works based off the context of stuff they already know about the world. We don't need the story to tell them the sky is blue for them to know. 1. Shanks can swim, so obviously he can't have Devil Fruit powers 2. They were introduced to the Six Powers last arc, another power system Oda designed so that DF users aren't the only super powerful people in the world 3. The word "Haki" is specifically used in relation to what Shank's did on Whitebeard's ship, so it's easy to assume that whatever "Haki" is, is some sort of power.
Erica Wilder Boulter
2024-08-31 19:14:17 +0000 UTCI did, but its their SPECULATION, how about you wait until its confirmed in the story?...its like you can't wait for them to just confirm in it on their own...they are SPECULATING, they're not looking for someone to confirm it for them before they get to that point.
boredbeck
2024-08-31 08:09:34 +0000 UTCquestioning things like that isn't about knowing the concrete answer. We both have a passion for writing, so getting in the head of a respected writer helps us understand their process and maybe take something for ourselves or learn a lesson. So doing a close reading of a scene is always a worthwhile way to enjoy something cause you get more out of it
BOLDcast
2024-08-29 23:02:00 +0000 UTCand that is fine, but we don't need to confirm what is correct and what isn't. You will know in the course of the story.
Artemis
2024-08-29 21:12:09 +0000 UTCnah they are commenting on something I didnt even mean and have a misconception although I didnt explain clear enough. I didnt mention anything about the WG, just that WB and shanks never agreed to team up. oh well, I already did say I screwed up since I didnt clarify in my og comment. ill hold it :\
R
2024-08-29 20:32:44 +0000 UTCRay sen take this L
ignorantWeed
2024-08-29 19:34:20 +0000 UTC@Artemis you misunderstood what I meant. (but I guess I screwed up since I didnt clarify enough in my original comment) you are right, in a way, but I never was talking from the governments side but shanks/wb's side after the fact. I was mostly just curious about him thinking thats the case AFTER shanks/wb discussion as nothing really indicated towards them teaming up after their discussion, which lindsay got. It felt like they were under the impression that Whitebeard and Shanks had to team up to defeat any number of marines when the ships sunk, which is why I commented "need". I never said anything about the WG, just that shanks and WB themselves never talked about teaming up. not "why would the government be concerned about them meeting/teaming up" but "why would wb and shanks need to team up " which was indicated otherwise due to their disagreement. shanks' true motive was to warn wb about bb and didnt mention teaming up at all, which was my point. prior to that however I can understand the thought process which is my fault, I shouldve clarified in my original comment since you thought I came at it from a pov from the governments side before wb/shanks made contact
R
2024-08-29 17:58:20 +0000 UTC@Boldcast If i remember correctly the government were preparing what could happen if whitebeard and shanks made "contact", so it makes sense why you thought them teaming up would be the case and the governments concern. my fault about that. But i wasnt talking from the governments side rather wb/shanks' side after the fact. so in turn the government did fear them teaming up of some sort, but that didnt end up happening as shanks told whitebeard "I came here to tell you.." about blackbeard so we find the purpose of why shanks would want to make contact with whitebeard. and discussions fell apart between them due to disagreements hence the clash. I was mostly wondering what made you think they'd still team up after that, not "why would the goverment think they'd team up", but I understand where youre coming from now , I shouldve clarified in my original comment
R
2024-08-29 17:57:13 +0000 UTCDid you not watch their discussion at the end? They pretty much deduce Haki being its own power system and also made the connection between Haki and what Shanks did to the Sea King at the beginning of the series, like, completely on their own already.
Erica Wilder Boulter
2024-08-29 13:31:44 +0000 UTCThey.... did....? Did you not watch their discussion at the end before commenting? 🤦♂️
Erica Wilder Boulter
2024-08-29 13:25:31 +0000 UTCor just wait until they discover it themselves. 🤦♂️
boredbeck
2024-08-29 12:43:38 +0000 UTCOP 6 and 8 can be watched now Carson. OP 8 ends on 325, the final episode of this saga.
Artemis
2024-08-29 01:11:16 +0000 UTCThat’s what I figured I couldn’t remember if I just took that from the government’s side of that episode, or if they intimated that in their conversations around that but I was pretty sure that was the concern
BOLDcast
2024-08-29 01:00:51 +0000 UTCyes it is fair to assume that but even after the conversation there is no mention of shanks wanting to team up, but rather warn whitebeard about blackbeard. I understand where hes coming from now, but its a good thing lindsay said her piece as well about it
R
2024-08-29 00:59:50 +0000 UTCAh nice, looking forward to it!
Ariix
2024-08-29 00:28:01 +0000 UTCGuys we don't have to fully explain haki right now or even allude to certain events of when it was used. They will understand everything in due time. Its not like the story doesn't explain haki in depth later on so just let them naturally figure it all out, as the story progresses.
Artemis
2024-08-29 00:19:04 +0000 UTCYeah it was post alabasta in terms of the OP timeline, around the time that the straw hats made land fall at jaya.
Artemis
2024-08-29 00:13:42 +0000 UTCRay Den is pretty wrong in his statement. This is what the government is afraid of for two emperors to team up just like you said. So your assumption is pretty spot on. Whitebeard and Shanks combining their allied forces could increase the threat of the 3 greatest powers and throw the world off balance. This is exactly what the government fears.
Artemis
2024-08-29 00:08:33 +0000 UTCOh we remember that for sure
BOLDcast
2024-08-28 22:06:17 +0000 UTCThe government was worried about them meeting up so I assumed that they would be afraid of them meeting up because either one had information the other didn’t, OR they would form an agreement or conclave of some sort Otherwise why would the government be afraid of them meeting up? I feel like that’s a fair assumption
BOLDcast
2024-08-28 22:04:15 +0000 UTCOh yeah we reacted to it yesterday just forgot to post it will do later
BOLDcast
2024-08-28 22:02:41 +0000 UTCFinally haki is mentioned can’t wait for y’all too see more of it
Jeremy
2024-08-28 16:24:43 +0000 UTCBy the way, not sure if I missed it, but are you going to react to Opening 6? Sadly it had spoiler content during it's entire run (they should've kept it around longer) but it's one of my favorites
Ariix
2024-08-28 11:16:26 +0000 UTCBecause it was only my glorious king Yosaku that was on the dinghy loredumping Luffy & Sanji about the 7 Warlords, the 3 great powers, Jinbe, Fish-Man Island & mermaids... all the while Johnny's bum ass was slacking off w/Usopp on the Conomi Islands smh
klairvoyage
2024-08-28 10:10:36 +0000 UTCidk where carson got the idea that shanks and whitebeard need to team up at all 😭 even after they talked there was no mention of them teaming up and he still thought it was the case 😭
R
2024-08-28 10:08:17 +0000 UTCOnly Yosaku? what about Johnny? :P
Black Snow
2024-08-28 09:49:49 +0000 UTCyeah in the maga he said haki and he was praising luffy not dissing hime like saying how he from all people have a bounty this big, he was sayung that his bounty is low from someone who has this impressive amount of haki
AJ
2024-08-28 08:53:42 +0000 UTCoda is a retcon master.
Carl Arce
2024-08-28 07:56:54 +0000 UTCWhat we know for certain is, that the 𝐘𝐨𝐧𝐤𝐨 (𝟒 𝐄𝐦𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐨𝐫𝐬) were part of the original 5-year plan Oda envisioned back in '97 (start of serialization). It was supposed to be: - Romance Dawn / East Blue saga (1 to 1.5 years) - adventures in the Grand Line against the Yonko (3 years) - final arc (1 year) It was the on-the-whim decision to introduce another seven major pirates in Baratie, that likely prompted him to re-evaluate the story as a whole (which is why Jaya is such a turning point). By the time Arabasta concluded in 2002, Oda, with the new narrative in mind, estimated that "[he] would need 20 years to draw everything [he] want[s]", which likely would have been accurate... if not for another Yosaku/Warlords incident later down the line lol though tbf, in 2022 the final stage did begin in the manga (& at the start of this year in the anime)
klairvoyage
2024-08-28 07:48:22 +0000 UTCThe funny thing is a fan once asked Oda why Buggy is so much weaker than Shanks. I don't remember the exact words but Oda said Buggy is lazy and if he actually trained he could be so much stronger than he is.
Adam Vialpando
2024-08-28 05:20:51 +0000 UTCBlackbeard mentioned Luffy’s ambition in episode 151
Monkey D. Lucci
2024-08-28 05:06:10 +0000 UTCIt was episode 151
Monkey D. Lucci
2024-08-28 05:03:41 +0000 UTCvery good questions asked about the scars. loved ur discussion
Baronizer
2024-08-28 05:01:33 +0000 UTCLove this analogy of his writing process.
Artemis
2024-08-28 04:57:18 +0000 UTC36.00 Yes, I love this conversation between both of you guys. Obviously things are not always fully mapped and planned out since CH 1. That would be giving oda to much credit for a long-form story like this, especially one that initially was to be presented as a much shorter story. But more so, Oda's talent is in being able to connect things retroactively or improvise story elements to make them stick together consistently so it does not feel like a contradiction or that the author is writing himself into a corner. As you get deeper into this story, you're starting to see that this writing process is really Oda's greatest strength, and I think personally this is what really sets the bar high for one piece and the potential for the future of the plot. The man doesn't forget his logistics, his rules, his world, or his characters; he does his research, and even if he wants to change things, he does it in a way that it feels like a very natural change. I can point to so many other stories and shonen series that fail pretty hard in this regard, now im not saying one piece is perfectly directed without flaws, but when compared to many of its contemporary stories like naruto, bleach, my hero academia, fairy tail, its clear that the flow and consistency of one piece feels more cohesive then alot of other shonen series and I think that is because of oda's ability to contexually fit things together so seamlessly without running into "plot holes".
Artemis
2024-08-28 04:41:10 +0000 UTCRegarding the question of "when did Oda think about XXX?" I don't think it's wrong or disrespectful to ask these questions and, unlike some fanboys, I don't pretend that he had everything in mind from the start, but I think it's not a very interesting question. The answer is and always will be : We don't know and we never will. At this point, I'm not sure Oda himself remembers when he got some of his ideas. Obviously there is nothing wrong with being curious and I'm not saying you shouldn't discuss that topic if you want, but in the end, it will always come to a shrug and a "Who knows?" Anyway, as you already know, the scope of the story vastly expanded at some point and that some elements such a Vivi were last minute additions, but at this point, you know as much as the rest of the fandom. To my knowledge there are only two more plot elements that Oda admitted having improvised which I won't spoil since they haven't come up yet. But as for the rest, don't expect any answer as to when the idea occured to him. Nobody can give you one. Just wanted to tell you that in case you were expecting someone to give you more info.
Humanoïde
2024-08-28 04:13:06 +0000 UTCSome times its hard to recollect events in this story because its been a few hundred episodes prior, but the meeting of whitebeard and shanks in this ep, was the follow up from the previous exhange when shanks sent rockstar with a letter. That was the end of the alabasta arc.
Artemis
2024-08-28 04:12:31 +0000 UTCthis episode alludes and forshadows so much lol, my god. Even certain things that I think long time manga readers didn't realize it was this far back. Crazy. Were really getting into the thick of things now.
Artemis
2024-08-28 03:48:03 +0000 UTCWhitebeard is only in his 70s but yes he is past his prime
Type Moon
2024-08-28 03:47:43 +0000 UTCThe anime left out the title cards for two characters that are under Whitebeard. 1st Division Commander Marco and 3rd Division Commander Diamond Jozu. This is the first time they are introduced in the story.
Artemis
2024-08-28 03:39:59 +0000 UTCOne piece's heart over reason logic will never fail for me
Sanji Joestar
2024-08-28 02:54:53 +0000 UTC*evil rat noises intensify*
Tony Tony Helicopter
2024-08-28 02:08:15 +0000 UTCHow do you guys feel about the "bet it on a new era" line? There's a lot we can speculate from that dialogue, but some fans to this day take issue with one of the world's greatest pirates somehow losing his arm to a common sea king from the east blue. Even if maybe he didn't have that title/status back then, Shanks was clearly a strong and experienced dude from the start. Is "betting it" on Luffy enough to explain that inconsistency?
100Rainy
2024-08-28 02:05:04 +0000 UTCWhitebeard's epithet: The Strongest Man in the World (Episode 151)
Matthew Gilroy
2024-08-28 02:02:30 +0000 UTCThis episode discussion showcases one of my favorite aspect of Oda as a writer There's that example where they say there's basically two types of writers Those who plan their story like they plan a building with each room, stair, door and exit And the other that basically plants a seed and sees what can grow from it and take advantage of it Oda's style is basically both A garden that's intertwined with the architecture of his building And sometimes it's not so obvious to know what was there first but it connects seemlessly as, you mentioned, he doesn't writes himself in a corner.
Sanji Joestar
2024-08-28 01:58:44 +0000 UTCPost Enise Lobby is such a blast man, my the Shanks and Whitebeard clash has got to be one of my favorite moments, not just during this arc but so far.
EOussama
2024-08-28 01:56:46 +0000 UTC'' This arm. I bet it on a new era . " Shanks is Him.
Sanji Joestar
2024-08-28 01:45:39 +0000 UTC@Matthew Oda compared him to Mihawk – "the strongest swordsman" AND Whitebeard – "the strongest man in the world" in this ep... you're fighting a losing battle✌😭 Shanks agenda is so nasty man
klairvoyage
2024-08-28 01:43:54 +0000 UTCYeap love that addition it felt so gratifying looking back on it
Sanji Joestar
2024-08-28 01:43:38 +0000 UTCFun fact Haki can be translated as Willpower or Ambition.
Sanji Joestar
2024-08-28 01:43:09 +0000 UTCBack in Drum Island, when Hiruluk was explaining to Chopper what pirates are, he said: "Their voices are like thunder splitting the sky"
klairvoyage
2024-08-28 01:37:49 +0000 UTCThis episode so is so iconic man. One of the most important One Piece episodes. I've been waiting for ya'll to react to it. I mean the Blackbeard lore, Haki getting introduced, Whitebeard, and of course my Red Haired GOAT.
Z
2024-08-28 01:35:35 +0000 UTCTwo Emperors meeting Sky Split Open !!!!
Sanji Joestar
2024-08-28 01:33:09 +0000 UTCI don’t know why but the anime leaves out the name tags here. Marco is Whitebeard’s first division commander like Ace is the Second. The big guy is called Jozu and is the Third Division Commander.
Envyus
2024-08-28 01:29:54 +0000 UTCJokes on you! The one armed shit makes him so much cooler
Z
2024-08-28 01:28:21 +0000 UTCGet him past East Blue Sea King first
Matthew Gilroy
2024-08-28 01:26:42 +0000 UTCI can’t wait for the podcast after 325, I hope we get one. I want to hear there thoughts on everything being revealed after they had some time to stew on it.
Sonicluis
2024-08-28 01:14:37 +0000 UTCShanks is right. WB was an L this ep
Z
2024-08-28 01:09:08 +0000 UTCSHANKS IS HIM. Whitebeard stubborn ass gon learn...
Z
2024-08-28 01:08:00 +0000 UTCSHANKS THE GOAT HAKI GOD IS HERE FOR HIS 5 SECONDS OF SCREEN TIME
Z
2024-08-28 01:07:49 +0000 UTCHaki is the japanese that means Ambition; Aspiration as per the Japanese dictionary https://www.nihongomaster.com/japanese/dictionary/word/45264/haki-%E8%A6%87%E6%B0%97-%E3%81%AF%E3%81%8D
Nicolas LeBlanc
2024-08-28 01:00:31 +0000 UTCOne Piece becomes more of a Shounen Battle manga as the series progress
Lūthér Hölâyèãhmé
2024-08-28 00:50:47 +0000 UTCNow you guys know how Shanks was able to scare off the Sea King in the beginning of One Piece! Haki as a concept and how it works/all of the different things it can do isn't really explained for a few more arcs, but you're right - it's basically the 3rd main power system to give characters who (might or) might not have Devil Fruits an edge in battle, just like the Six Powers that the Marines can learn.
Erica Wilder Boulter
2024-08-28 00:48:42 +0000 UTCShanks was being a bit too sassy pulling up to Whitebeard's ship like that. Bro thought he was cooking flexing haki on those fodder😂. Respect your elders
Matthew Gilroy
2024-08-27 23:56:52 +0000 UTC💙
Oriem
2024-08-27 23:54:36 +0000 UTCI have been waiting so long for this day, thank you BOL D. CAST
R
2024-08-27 23:54:35 +0000 UTC
