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One Piece Episode 362 UNCUT REACTION!

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I would say Zoro is more of an "inverted version of a Buddhist Miyamoto Musashi/Shinigami".

boredbeck

Oda LOVES using wordplays and subtle references so im glad you pointed this all out here, its gives it so much more context...although I personally think sometimes his tendency to cram puns/references is a detriment to his storywriting, but most of the time, it gives it more gusto IMO.

boredbeck

Watch oda one shot Monosters on netflix

ignorantWeed

Geez Dude you cooked!!!love the insight on the Buddhist meaning of it all!!!

Sanji Joestar

With One Piece โ€“ especially the fights โ€“ a good guiding principle is usually simply "The Rule of Cool" & the TLDR could be: this is just another "fire manifested from mere will, like Pearl๐Ÿ and Sanji"-power, which incinerated Ryuma, meaning there was nothing left for the shadow to inhabit, hence why it returned to Brook. I am not the biggest fan of Zoro fights, especially "early" on, when Toei still is cheaping out on animation (I can't wait for you to get to the 2020s^^), though I do love to nerd out when it comes to religious & mythological allusions and perhaps read more into it than was initially thought out lol. And as other have already said, Zoro's abilities follow holistic, spiritual Buddhist themes & do progress within that framework. Hence why I wouldn't necessarily want to dismiss them, even if they get quite lost in "translation" / the cultural barrier. ๐Ž๐ง๐ž ๐’๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐’๐ญ๐ฒ๐ฅ๐ž: ๐…๐ฅ๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ƒ๐ซ๐š๐ ๐จ๐ง ๐…๐ฅ๐š๐ฆ๐ž/๐๐ฅ๐š๐ณ๐ž (้ฃ›็ซœ็ซ็„”, ๐‡๐ข๐ซ๐ฒลซ ๐Š๐š๐ž๐ง) ้ฃ› (Hi) and ็ซœ (Ryลซ) mean "Flying Dragon" (= nฤga in Sanskrit), which in Buddhism, among other things, are seen as a force tied to samsara (= the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth), often associated with suffering. Ryuma โ€“ the dragon slayer โ€“ had already conquered one such great force in his life. However, in his death, he remains trapped; symbolically bound in samsara by being forced to fight in this shameful, undead state. ็ซ็„” (Kaen), means "Blaze/Flame", with fire in Buddhist symbolism representing purification & often being used for spiritual cleansing & the overcoming of worldly desires (known as Klesha Nashana Kriya or Goma/่ญทๆ‘ฉ in Japan). When Zoro defeats Ryuma with the "Flying Dragon Blaze", the fire that engulfs Ryumaโ€™s body can be seen as a purifying flame, releasing Ryuma from the dishonor of his undead state & cleansing of his spirit, allowing his legacy to be restored. Zoro understands this deeply, which is why he tells Ryuma he will pretend the battle never happened, ensuring that Ryuma's history & honor remain untarnished. Moreover, by using an attack with the name "Flying Dragon," Zoro metaphorically takes on the role of the dragon that Ryuma once defeated (the aura dragon during Zoro's attack is the same as the one Ryuma defeated in in Oda's one-shot "Monster"). This isnโ€™t just about Zoro winning a fight, itโ€™s about the inheritance of Ryumaโ€™s will and strength, even moreso apparent by Ryuma giving up his sword. The evolution of Zoro's attacks, from his "108 Pound-Ho/Cannon" in Skypiea, which transliterated to "Phoenix of 108 Kleshas" (= death & rebirth of 108 worldly desires / negative mental states)", to its evolution "Flying Dragon Blaze" now, follows a thematic line tied to Buddhist beliefs. Just as Zoro used this attack to defeat/liberate Om๐Ÿง˜ (เฅ) โ€“ the guy who was deeply entrenched in existential suffering & nihilism (a slave to the samsara), his "Flying Dragon Blaze" purges Ryuma from his undead state, restoring his spirit and honor, by breaking the samsara cycle in a similar fashion. ๐“๐‹๐ƒ๐‘; ๐™๐จ๐ซ๐จ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐ฎ๐๐๐ก๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ ๐’๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐‰๐ž๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฌ (pls correct me if I'm wrong on any of the Buddhist stuff)

klairvoyage

Now you can calmly watch Oda's one-shot 'Monsters' :)

Dariusz Rosiak

Animation couldโ€™ve pop-off here like with the previous episode or the Zoro vs T-Bone episode. But its fine ig

Monkey D. Lucci

You guys should check out the monster special, but maybe after this arc so it doesnโ€™t slow the momentum

Sonicluis

I interpreted it the same as you, Zoro lit him on fire with his attack

Martin Hagen

I like when fights have more silence than yap, usually most of Zoro's fights. So tragic how an honorable swordsman with a legendary name gets resurrected as a zombie only to be trashed.

EOussama

Watch โ€œMonstersโ€ itโ€™s a short story about Ryuma!

Chriz

Mine is a bit different lol, its more on Zoro's side...but yeah, i think thats the best way to look at Ryuma's death

boredbeck

I was gonna include my headcanon in my comment and it also included his spirit being part of the reason for the fire too XD

ChocoBoshi

I have some thoughts about why Ryuma caught fire, but it might be theory-ish that might also hint stuff (its a headcanon so not really but dont wanna say just to be safe)...so I'll just say from my interpretation that Ryuma's "spirit" leaked out in form of a fire becoz of his wound (and Zoro's attack is named Soaring Dragon Blaze...so it might be that)

boredbeck

Love the respect Zoro has to Ryuma as a fellow swordsman

Sanji Joestar

Love the fight Quick and efficient Fire even, pun intended For the reason why it happened as far as the informations you got, this is something new Zoro hasn't done before. On the top of my mind about where you guys are at, i recall when he defeated Mr5 in Little Garden using the fire Usopp lit to slash him using '' Yaki Oni Giri/Burning Oni Giri ''. He mentioned that the idea of a flaming sword isn't so bad. Here he uses his arm to strengthen the other and deliver a blow that caused flames to burst, with the image of a dragon accompanying him.(Flying Dragon Blaze/Hiryu Kaen) Like other comments mentioned many of his techniques have Buddhist attributes and thematics to them too. I'm not well versed in that to give more insight however. You're free to interpret it your way.

Sanji Joestar

@Luther, thats a good point, ill edit my original post a bit

ChocoBoshi

Zoro is seemingly developing powers based on Buddhist demons

Lลซthรฉr Hรถlรขyรจรฃhmรฉ

Of Course Ryuma likes thrusts, he has Brook's Shadow.

Envyus

Regarding the blue flames, as far as I'm aware it isn't clear why *exactly* that happened. It may be an unsatisfying answer but its just one of those things that's a bit vague. There is the fact that Sandai Kitetsu's hamon is a flame pattern (though I'm pretty sure he uses Wado Ichimonji for this and all of his one sword style attacks). As well as what Luther brings up bellow that Zoro's character and style are all very inspired by Buddhism in many ways (His Asura attack in Enies Lobby is among the most obvious).

ChocoBoshi

I highly recommend watching Monsters: 103 Mercies Dragon Damnation. Itโ€™s a single 25 minute episode worth watching

SwaggyMan

You've already gotten a couple comments regarding it and I'm sure you'll get quite a few more during this arc but, just to clarify, there's a one episode special (~25 minutes) called "Monsters: 103 mercies Dragon Damnation" that you can now watch on Netflix. It was written by Oda before he started One Piece and is now considered canonical to the One Piece world and lore. If you had plans to stop after this arc and catch up on any fillers you skipped that you wanted to check out or even watch the 6th One Piece movie "Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island" which is also highly requested, then would be a great time to also watch that.

ChocoBoshi


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