Original vs AI (more examples)
Added 2023-04-28 00:27:11 +0000 UTCHere's a few more examples where I retouched already rendered image with AI. With most of them I tried to almost fully sustain the core appearance. The ginger is a more exaggerated example to show what's technically possible but it also changes a bit the core appearance like the choker or the color grading.
A bunch of people commented on the smoothness of the skin. The extreme smooth skin in my previous examples was caused by using a wrong upscale model, one or two extra settings and there's a trick to get more details by sharpen the input image a bit in photoshop. On the new images you should notice skin textures now. It also depends on which AI models I use. Depending on if it's a more realistic or stylistic one I get more or less details. The AI retouched images tend to be still a bit more softer though. I'd call it more realistic or aesthetically pleasing but it comes down to taste.
Let me know your thoughts.
Comments
I think it's looking pretty interesting. I'm toying with AI, but it's not doing quite what I want.
Alex Fellman
2023-05-06 08:42:20 +0000 UTCAI all the way
Rene
2023-04-28 21:38:06 +0000 UTCAlso, I'd like to add please don't take this as a "rant". It's more intended a critique of how the AI takes away the subtle touches that give each character "character".
DezzieArts
2023-04-28 14:18:08 +0000 UTCIf you'll indulge me then. For the first image I don't have much complaint. It looks like her but maybe with heavier foundation. On the second the AI makes several changes to her face. The nose is thicker (a recurrent theme), her lips lose that slight pucker and all sheen. It's just so generic. Though I will say the AI hair does look more realistic. Not better. Just more realistic. For the third image to borrow a phrase "not even her own mother would recognize her". The AI has totally transformed her into a generic beauty. In the next the AI de-aged her. Instead of a woman possibly in her 50s she looks to be in her late-twenties. "Generic". In the final image there's that de-aging sense again. Also the nose has thickened. And her eye colour lost all its vibrancy. The AI is doing what I've noticed the AI does to all images of womenβstrips them down into a narrow, "generic" ideal. I guess from the poll results that's what most people want, which is a shame.
DezzieArts
2023-04-28 13:43:46 +0000 UTCbody form is probably a optical illusion for you because they outline almost pixel perfect the original.
Surody
2023-04-28 11:03:06 +0000 UTCI like the faces for the AI for the most part (except the girl with pink hair) and I also like the nipple color more from the AI. But other than that the originals are much better skin and body form wise.
Joe Ohno
2023-04-28 10:55:32 +0000 UTCOkay, in that case consider the following: In a Comic (lets say 20 different Pictures/Panels long), that would mean days worth of more time for you (and us) until you are done. I like the retouch, however it sounds stressful and Like much more work for you.
Gurt
2023-04-28 07:41:50 +0000 UTCThat's exactly what I was thinking. Since it's a extra layer of work I can just offer both.
Surody
2023-04-28 07:13:50 +0000 UTCMaybe you can publish in the future an AI and non AI version of your projects. Non-Ai version might be easy to do, after you have it already. Then everyone can choose what they prefer.
stger
2023-04-28 07:11:15 +0000 UTCI tried to be as close to the original as possible (with most of them at least) but they are made more "realistic" I guess. What exactly is my style to you? Is it just the fact that it has a certain CGI look?
Surody
2023-04-28 07:11:14 +0000 UTCwell I technically can. It's easy to blend AI generated versions together with the originals in Photoshop and co.
Surody
2023-04-28 07:07:47 +0000 UTCWhat is the pro and what is the con for you?
Surody
2023-04-28 07:07:16 +0000 UTCThe ginger one is where I used the AI the most on, the other ones are closer to the originals but changed. The extra details are sometimes minor but some skin folds, hair and face are the most significant ones.
Surody
2023-04-28 07:05:59 +0000 UTCIt depends on how quick I'm to find a good and fitting prompt and then get some results I'm satisfied with. I also have to merge the original and a few generated ones in Photoshop. I'd say like 1-2 hours per image, at least.
Surody
2023-04-28 07:00:09 +0000 UTC.The AI looks pretty good, but the originals I feel look better with the one exception being the red-haired picture looking better. There are 1 or 2 exceptions like oddly enough the armpits of the first picture and the lips of the second with the AI seem a little more realistic but that might just be me
Count Crusty
2023-04-28 06:51:51 +0000 UTCAi does a really good Job making them look more "lifelike or real". Especially the eyes and theet, Number 3 (Indian behind) is the best example. And the exagerated ginger one, i Love it! It seems i am one of the few who thinks ai ist an improvement overall. May i ask, how much time does it Take to use ai on them Like this?
Gurt
2023-04-28 06:09:40 +0000 UTCThe originals seem better in the sense that it loses a lot of your style when they are retouched. They do still look good though I just feel like it loses some of your uniqueness.
yo momma
2023-04-28 02:44:00 +0000 UTCI second this
Darcy Stuart-Russell
2023-04-28 02:16:22 +0000 UTCThere is definitely a kind of creative "smoothing out" of the original images. I don't hate the AI touch ups, but they take away the Surody-ness of what you've done in a way that I think makes it lesser.
Kinky Utterances
2023-04-28 02:14:39 +0000 UTCI dunno, man. I appreciate that you're about the only person even trying to use this technology ethically, but it might be a fools errand. All the AI seems to do is leech out any uniqueness from a piece and make it more generic. I mean, does it look nice in an aesthetic sense? Admittedly yes, but art is more than just "thing look nice."
W C Purdy
2023-04-28 01:27:49 +0000 UTCHonestly I prefer the originals. I feel like the AI strips out any unique character for "generic beauty".
DezzieArts
2023-04-28 01:03:27 +0000 UTCIt would be nice to somehow blend the good parts of both...
Hairyone
2023-04-28 00:55:28 +0000 UTCOK this batch shows how both obviously have their pro's and cons
Ferdinand Martinez
2023-04-28 00:33:56 +0000 UTCI prefer the originals.
t.
2023-04-28 00:28:53 +0000 UTC
