FIRST TIME WATCHING: Chernobyl S1E4
Added 2021-12-23 17:01:02 +0000 UTCHey guys!
Time for another episode of Chernobyl. Man this one hit me so hard. Can't wait to finish this show next week.
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Original Series: Chernobyl
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David Heidric
2024-02-29 20:54:18 +0000 UTCIt would be a horrible job but I look at it as mercifully putting them down, they don't deserve that horrible agonizing death and the fact that they wouldn't understand what and why it was happening to them. Such a difficult horrible situation brought about by the arrogance and negligence of a few. Yet every person who tried, spoke up to the Party and worked on containment to save or give the most mercy/care possible to millions of other creatures is a hero in my book.
Nathaniel Peay
2023-01-25 05:01:26 +0000 UTCI got up early To meet a friend at the park But sadly it rained a haiku
Martin
2021-12-30 14:36:14 +0000 UTCYou mentioned earlier in the video that you weren’t sure if a lot of these events happened, or if they were created for dramatic purposes. Unfortunately the sad reality is that yes, these things did indeed all happen. Obviously the conversations between characters we’ll never know, but they did have to send soldiers from village to village, town to town, to kill any and all animals, farm animals, pets, strays, anything. That honestly would’ve been the worst job to have been assigned to. I could till the land, or raze forests etc, but to actively kill thousands of innocent living creatures would’ve been too much. Also, they did such a fantastic job with just HOW depressing they made this series, because I think a majority of people are so disassociated from these events, and with how bleak the real-world ramifications of a situation like this would be, and also just how close it came to being an entire continental catastrophe, that it’s sometimes good to be taken out of our comfort zones and experience, even for only the 5 hours of this series, the meaning behind Oppenheimer’s famous quoting of the Bhagavad-Gita.
Andy Crawley
2021-12-29 19:38:41 +0000 UTCNat: "They just want double layer of protection just for their dicks. One would think you would care more about their head" But Nat... they ARE caring about their head! xD
Zeliodes
2021-12-27 00:42:39 +0000 UTCEven taking into account whether or not Lyudmilla had any idea just how dangerous her husband’s body was, I defy ANY HUMAN BEING to be thrown into the situation she was in and try to tell me with a straight face that they know for a FACT that they wouldn’t *at least* betray their own physical safety by hugging/embracing the ONE person they love most in the entire world. “To err is human.” (From the Latin: “Errare humanum est.”)
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2021-12-26 05:21:50 +0000 UTCLyudmilla, and the other common folk, had 0 idea about radiation and its effects. Chernobyl is a big reason why it's common knowledge now. In Lyudmilla's mind, her husband was burned by fire and is dying from that. Yes, she was told not to touch him, but never WHY. It's easy to judge the actions of the people at this time because of the things we know, but during this time nobody had ever really even conceived anything like this could happen.
Dante
2021-12-26 01:35:01 +0000 UTC"Regarding Lyudmilla, I think she not only didn't know about radiation the way we do now, but also it was a long time before someone told them at least in the show that it was radiation." -- 100% true - also what radiation could do at that level, for that long, nobody knew - as Legasov said, nothing like this had ever happened on the planet. Even those who understood the danger didn't comprehend the magnitude. Lyudmilla was completely ignorant of what was going on, why it was so dangerous - that's why they gave her dialog like "he's been burned" and "they touch you; it's safe for them" -- to show that she has no concept of the power of what's actually happening. She's not dumb or reckless; she's acting on limited information, love, and fear.
Charity Konusser (the chonus)
2021-12-25 05:04:47 +0000 UTCI love dogs as much as anyone, but the reason this episode is actually re-watchable (for me at least) is in large part because of the SUFFERING that those pets are being spared from. As much I *still* hate seeing those (admittedly very quick) cuts of dead animals being dropped into a mass grave etc., I cannot help but reminding myself of the fact – THE FACT! – that if the Soviets hadn’t taken that approach to the domestic & wild animals in the designated contamination area, their *inevitable* fate would have been much, much worse. For other people who really love dogs – or animals in general – but struggle with this episode in particular, try imagining “the dog kennel scene” from John Carpenter’s MASTERPIECE, “The Thing,” (1982). When ‘The Thing’ (which is perfectly hidden in the form of a Husky at the start of the movie) is put in the kennel with the dogs, it attacks them – in the most brutally violent depiction of dogs being killed ever put on film or in a tv show. Even though, John Carpenter’s “The Thing” is pure fiction & HBO’s “Chernobyl” is about as accurate as you can get when it comes to dramatizations of real-life events, try to imagine those contaminated animals in “Chernobyl” ALL SUFFERING THE KIND OF PAIN & AGONY SHOWN IN “The Thing.” That’s 1 way to try and trick yourself into not feeling as devastated when watching this brilliant – and absolutely important – HBO mini-series. Here’s to, “The Happiness of All Mankind.” Cheers.
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2021-12-25 03:01:42 +0000 UTCI was *not okay* seeing Natalie break down during this reaction. As someone who also “loves dogs more than people,” (Natalie’s words in this video), I knew this episode was coming & *thought* I was prepared given how many times I’ve seen it. The only thing I wish Natalie would have took a moment to understand is that if not for people like Bacha’s crew that we followed this episode, WHAT HAPPENED TO VASILY, (the firefighter), TOPTINOV, AND AKIMOV WOULD EVENTUALLY HAVE HAPPENED TO *ALL OF THOSE DOGS, CATS, AND OTHER ANIMALS – DOMESTICATED OR OTHERWISE.* It wouldn’t have been as brutal or “quick” obviously, but it would have happened all the same – so the Bacha storyline perfectly illustrated the mercy of having the government take on the responsibility of not letting ANY of those animals suffer, (and also not to let them further contaminate/harm other living beings etc.)
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2021-12-25 02:49:22 +0000 UTCDid anyone other than me NOT cry during this episode?
BNJ
2021-12-25 02:37:08 +0000 UTCI don't know what they knew about radiation sickness and it's level of contagiousness in the 80's. It's possible they may have actually believed this and diagnosed it that way. Regardless I imagine there was some damage due to Lyudmilla just being exposed herself being in Pripyat. I doubt it would've taken much at the beginning of her pregnancy to cause birth defects. I'm just speculating though. I'm not a doctor and haven't read the book.
Marty McGee
2021-12-25 00:07:42 +0000 UTCYeah this was the hard one, but you made it through. I'm not ashamed to admit I cried that way when I saw it the first time too. But like others have said I had to try and think of it as a mercy for those sweet animals. The last episode is still sad, but nothing like having to watch dogs and cats being killed. Glad you made it through!!
Marty McGee
2021-12-24 23:59:27 +0000 UTCSorry you had to sit through this Nst. Thank you for your dedication ❤️
JackRan only if JackChased
2021-12-24 17:12:58 +0000 UTCKnew this would be the worst episode for you emotionally. I love dogs too, and as much as I love this show, it’s awful to watch, but it did happen. Ghost hugs to you, Nat!
Jack Mellor
2021-12-24 14:52:47 +0000 UTCYeah... This was the first thing that popped into my mind when she signed up for the show. The pets in episode 4 🥺 Sorry Nat.
Cody Steele
2021-12-24 08:26:14 +0000 UTCOkay, since no one has mentioned it yet, with what we know now about all this stuff, the whole "baby absorbed the radiation" thing is, well, complete nonsense. As they said in that commercial, that's not how it works, that's not how any of this works. Once Vasily had taken his firefighting uniform off and showered, he wasn't a danger to his wife or their baby at all, so Lyudmilla spending time with him at the hospital wasn't why their baby died.
Jordan Freemyer
2021-12-24 07:28:46 +0000 UTCRegarding Lyudmilla, I think she not only didn't know about radiation the way we do now, but also it was a long time before someone told them at least in the show that it was radiation. For Lyudmilla, what she experiences is "husband goes to put out fire, husband goes to Moscow with severe burns, she is worried about him, he's in pain, he dies." All throughout this time people say "Don't touch him", but the word "radiation" is not said directly. So, just like the people operating the reactor and it exploding, how could she have known? She was never given the tool to understand the situation fully.
Kelvin
2021-12-24 05:24:27 +0000 UTCWhen I saw Nat was starting Chernobyl I thought to myself "Awesome! That's an AMAZING sho--oh....oh no....she's not gonna like Episode 4 at all...", but you powered through it, that shit's about as rough as it can get.
Keith Jacobsen
2021-12-24 03:49:20 +0000 UTCSorry that was such a difficult watch. I’d would say none of us enjoy watching animals being hurt in TV/movies(or enjoy watching you being hurt by watching animals being hurt). But if it’s any consolation, knowing how horrifically terrible death by radiation is, a lot of those animals were spared a truly awful worse death. There’s nothing near as difficult to watch as this in the finale thankfully. As difficult as this show can be to watch at times, I think that similar to Schindler’s List it has great value. It acts as tribute and memorial to the actions and suffering of so many who lived through the reality. I’d understand if you never wish to re-watch the series when you’re done(obviously I don’t expect you to ever want to rewatch THIS episode especially), but I hope be glad to have seen it. They really did such a good job in showing a piece of history that most of us knew far less about that we should have(not just the events themselves, but the human cost of having to live through those events), I’m glad you got to see it…but equally glad that you’ll have something far lighter as your next series after this(Avatar should be a good pallet cleanser from the horrors of Chernobyl).
Todd “Canuck” Schmuck
2021-12-24 03:44:09 +0000 UTCVery well put, sir. Thank you. Too many are forgetting their history and worse: simply ignoring it.
MertzRocks
2021-12-24 02:15:42 +0000 UTCBecause despite a few liberties taken, it was well done and more importantly: I believe everyone on the planet should know about this and see this, lest we forget... Just one example of the old saying about those who forget history...
MertzRocks
2021-12-24 02:13:13 +0000 UTCInteresting...
MertzRocks
2021-12-24 02:10:06 +0000 UTCI think she knew that and that’s what she was referencing
Travis
2021-12-24 00:55:22 +0000 UTCYou should react to Marley and Me but just the end
Travis
2021-12-24 00:54:31 +0000 UTCI'm about to watch this @ about 8pm EST... Trying not to read other comments. I predicted some big-time ugly crying and now will see how you did, m'dear... Fingers crossed! Edit:47 minutes in, I knew it. You are not okay... Not even slightly. Kudos for getting through that. At least you should get some satisfaction in the final ep and I'll say no more.
MertzRocks
2021-12-24 00:53:29 +0000 UTCKind of thought this would be the toughest one for you. It’s harrowing. As others have said, they were preventing the dogs from dying slow, being eaten, languishing in pain, or starving. But it’s still so incredibly tough to watch. The show really drives home the cost from so many perspectives, as well as the scale of it, and the way in which people rose to the occasion, sacrificed, persevered, and thus saved so many millions of lives. And it drives home even more succinctly the cost of prioritizing narrative over evidence. The parallels with recent and current events in terms of this aspect are sobering and terrifying.
Byron
2021-12-23 22:33:33 +0000 UTCThe dogs would die slow, painful deaths out there on their own. This is the humane thing to do. I had forgotten all about this episode. Why did people vote for this again?
Joe Blankenship
2021-12-23 22:08:40 +0000 UTCYeah, nobody wants to kill dogs, but it's much more cruel to leave them to die slow, painful deaths.
Joe Blankenship
2021-12-23 21:58:22 +0000 UTCHey, Natalie. You're a trooper for making it through this one. It's a very tough one for me as well due to my profession and love of animals. The way I find some measure of peace over it is that I've seen animals that died from lack of water and food which is what most of these animals would have died from. The bullet is far less horrible. I think that, as difficult as it was to watch, it would have been a disservice to those animals not to include it. Human negligence caused the explosion and those animals paid the price for it.
JayF
2021-12-23 20:42:16 +0000 UTCIn light of the elderly woman's excellent monologue at the beginning of this episode, you should react to: “Reds” (1981): starring Warren Beatty (John Reed), Diane Keaton (Louise Bryant), Maureen Stapleton (Emma Goldman), Jack Nicholson (Eugene O'Neill), etc. It's a movie about the Bolshevik Revolution. And, “Mr. Jones" (2019): starring James Norton (Gareth Jones) & Peter Sarsgaard (Walter Duranty). This film is about the Welsh journalist, Jones, who broke the news in the West about the Holodomor in Ukraine (Stalin's genocide of the Ukrainians); and the NYT journalist, Duranty, that covered the genocide up. For your own edification, read Anne Applebaum's excellent book: “Red Famine: Stalin's War on Ukraine” (2017). So far, it's one of the best books written in the West about the Holodomor. And, check out the short documentary on YouTube about the Holodomor by TimeGhost History presented by Indiana “Indy" Neidell called, “The Holodomor: The Communists' Holocaust” | Between 2 Wars 1932 Part 3 of 4.”
Matt D
2021-12-23 20:23:56 +0000 UTCSince nobody's mentioned it yet, the lead shielding isn't to protect their dicks (though that truly is a hilarious take on it) or even to protect themselves exactly, it's to protect future children they might have--specifically it's to protect their testes and sperm, so that they don't later create mutated children due to irradiated reproductive organs.
Peter Yocum
2021-12-23 19:32:41 +0000 UTCYeah I feel bad for voting for this now, I didn't remember the dog stuff or think about how that would affect her. Nat, for future reference when picking shows, use https://www.doesthedogdie.com/ which is exactly for people like you who can't watch particular things--it's not just for dog deaths, there are a ton of different triggers you can search for, and it just lists the particular ones that are in a show, e.g. it does warn about the dogs for chernobyl: https://www.doesthedogdie.com/media/19260
Peter Yocum
2021-12-23 19:29:18 +0000 UTCOften when something bad happens and it's kept off screen, it's worse because your brain and your imagination make it worse
Calo Grsf
2021-12-23 19:23:34 +0000 UTCI'm so surprised you made through that episode with so little crying, It was extremely painful to watch the first time I saw it, and was no easier this time round. Have a happy time over the holidays Natalie, and a great new year
Stephen Woods
2021-12-23 18:54:41 +0000 UTCThat was just so hard to watch Nat. Even though a lot of it was kept off screen, through the sound, it really brought it home. It was something that needed to be done, but it takes a certain type of person who can close off their emotions. A tough episode today. Hopefully for the finale we will get to the bottom of the hows and the whys. Thanks for another gut punch of a reaction Nat 💛
Darryl Low
2021-12-23 18:45:47 +0000 UTCI feel really guilty. I knew what was coming up but I just let you go in blind .__.
Julian Calzada
2021-12-23 18:36:53 +0000 UTCSurprised me too when this came out. But this was apparently his passion project. It’s amazing what people can do when they’re really invested
Tay Schumaker
2021-12-23 18:26:07 +0000 UTCThe chapter in the book this is based off is so much worse. So, so much worse.
Tay Schumaker
2021-12-23 18:24:49 +0000 UTCI think they're not supposed to look over the rail because the exposed core is directly below. Being on the roof is taking years off their lives, but any direct exposure to the core and they're likely dead that week like the plant workers and firefighters.
Steve J
2021-12-23 18:21:00 +0000 UTCProud of you for powering through this one, I know it was tough! Random trivia - Pavel, the poor boy they focus on on animal duty, is played by Barry Keough, who you'll later see play Druig in the MCU's "Eternals".
Chief
2021-12-23 18:18:12 +0000 UTCHi Nat, thanks for the reaction, it was surely one of the hardest episodes of the series to watch, but then again, the hardest part is that it was an event that happened 😔 And no Nat, the wall was still standing and Germany was still separated, the wall came down in 89, and Germany is united since 90 hahaha I hope after that you were able to cheer up with Koda 😌 Come on, one more episode and it will be the last airbender 😄, the storm before the calm haha I hope you're fine, take care, be safe and stay golden! 💛
Calo Grsf
2021-12-23 18:15:15 +0000 UTCAs horrible as having to do the animal control is, I would tell myself they've all been exposed to the radiation and this is sparing them a painful death. The reason they shouldn't look over the rail on the roof is the radiation coming up out of the core is WAY more than what is on the roof. It's like the difference between standing next to an open blast furnace and putting your face inside one.
John
2021-12-23 17:36:43 +0000 UTCWell I guess this is how I’m starting my day. YIPPEE! Also every episode I’m more and more shocked that the guy who wrote this got famous for writing the Scary Movie sequels and terrible comedies like Senseless and Rocketman… and now he’s doing The Last of Us for HBO.
djKENTO
2021-12-23 17:17:16 +0000 UTCHappy Thursday, Natalie! 😊 I'm downloading this right now so that I can watch it later tonight. I'm looking forward to watching this reaction later this evening after I get back from seeing "Spider-Man: No Way Home" again. Have a great day today! 😊 Until the next video, Stay Golden! 💛
Randee Carreno
2021-12-23 17:04:12 +0000 UTC
