Help me pick a series to watch after Jessica Jones S1!
Added 2022-10-08 16:00:09 +0000 UTCI'm pausing the Marvel shows for a bit to hop on into some trending content. There are just so many new shows right now that all look interesting and I can't ignore them :)
I know all of these shows are currently releasing episodes slowly, so that may mean only reacting to one episode each week for a bit (depending on the show). Of course, I'll continue with multiple episodes of Stranger Things and a movie each week (or even two movies some weeks).
Comments
Rings of Power is awful.
Jermare
2022-10-29 02:42:12 +0000 UTCOh Andor is getting so good!, ep 6 and 7 are so good, I know she will love the acting especially on the last episode, the dialogues are so good! Slowly Andor is finally getting the recognition. Finally a good adult well written and characters development Star Wars deserved
Joao
2022-10-20 10:16:50 +0000 UTCROP is probably the worst thing on TV in the last 30 years\
Jayce Collazo
2022-10-19 04:52:49 +0000 UTCRoP is so underrated.
daquake
2022-10-19 01:55:36 +0000 UTCAndor and Rings of Power are mid-tier okay, and House of the Dragon might be good, but it is so hard to watch.
Lloyd S.
2022-10-19 01:44:36 +0000 UTCAndor is the best of the three by far.
Lorenzo Da
2022-10-16 23:33:38 +0000 UTCI just want Euphoria season 2, thats all
Brandon Ralphs
2022-10-16 06:42:51 +0000 UTCGive RoP a chance. You will enjoy it. Cinematically it’s amazing and it’s nice having something related to Tolkien aside from lotr and the hobbit movies.
Ivan Lopez
2022-10-15 15:08:39 +0000 UTCThe latest episode of HOTD was very good for sure. I enjoyed it. Just want to see Nat go back to Lord of the Rings since she did Game of thrones more recently. I really like both shows. I just prefer RoP more. Not to mention the story is decades older and has a significantly bigger fanbase too. Could be a better business move too.
Dodge 10
2022-10-15 01:17:25 +0000 UTCThat's just half of the list though, there's more right after The Defenders: 1st - Daredevil (Season 1) ✅ 2nd - Jessica Jones (Season 1) ✅ 3rd - Daredevil (Season 2) 4th - Luke Cage (Season 1) 5th - Iron Fist (Season 1) 6th - The Defenders (Limited Series) 7th - The Punisher (Season 1) 8th - Jessica Jones (Season 2) 9th - Luke Cage (Season 2) 10th - Iron Fist (Season 2) 11th - Daredevil (Season 3) 12th - The Punisher (Season 2) 13th - Jessica Jones (Season 3) (Personally, out of that entire list, I only really care about Daredevil, The Punisher, Jessica Jones, the 1st Season of Luke Cage, and The Defenders and only for the sake of continuity into the 3rd Season of Daredevil)
Alucard
2022-10-14 16:50:41 +0000 UTCI haven't bothered with any of those. None of them interest me. I've pretty much caught up on ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING and trying to finish WELCOME TO WREXHAM (which is really great by the way).
Philip Davetas
2022-10-14 16:15:45 +0000 UTCYES PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ALL OF IT
Lucifer Moon
2022-10-14 04:02:32 +0000 UTCYou need to continue the Defenders , Daredevil (Season 1) ✅ Jessica Jones (Season 1) ✅ Daredevil (Season 2) Luke Cage (Season 1) Iron Fist (Season 1) The Defenders
Lana Hands
2022-10-13 20:00:03 +0000 UTCDO NOT EVER watched Interview with a Vampire the serie, it's even worst then RoP!!!!
Daniel Vezina
2022-10-13 06:43:21 +0000 UTCFirefly Fox release order, was the stupidest idea in series history.
Daniel Vezina
2022-10-13 06:27:30 +0000 UTCWow that was consistent. Wish I could say I was shocked. Same percents but 1200+ more votes. I almost could have guessed.
NobleSon32
2022-10-13 02:06:37 +0000 UTCDo you have any plans to add band of brothers into one of these polls any time soon? One of the all time greats
Matthew Calleja
2022-10-12 20:50:52 +0000 UTC@Ken - I could go into why Rings of Power is not only offensive for the fans, but also just outright offensive to any viewer with a brain, but that would involve a whole lot of spoilers (I'll save such detailed criticism for when/if Nat ever views it). Suffice it to say even the basic logic of the show is greatly flawed, even without the lore. But what makes that even more offensive is that it's one of the most popular franchises on the planet. So yes, they were making it for me and everyone else. They were trying to make a show that would garner them the viewership numbers of Jackson's LotR films. And the viewership has been falling off with every episode. Again, otherwise, why spend the billion dollars to do it? But no need to argue, the intent was expressed by Bezos and Amazon themselves.🙄 Copy and paste from a comment I made below.... But if you ever needed an indication of popularity and viewership, look no further than the 1k+ that have voted in this poll. Rings of Power, Amazon's BILLION DOLLAR show based on one of the most beloved franchises of all time is currently getting a beatdown by a series about a Disney Star Wars B character from a one off film. Just think about that for a moment.
Brian Jones
2022-10-11 19:16:35 +0000 UTCMatt Smith is absolutely slaying it as Daemon. I was always more of a Tennant fan for the Dr., but in HotD he's perfect.
Brian Jones
2022-10-11 18:42:59 +0000 UTCLooks like we're replacing David Tennant with Matt Smith. It's 2010 all over again.
Lee Gannon
2022-10-11 11:38:43 +0000 UTCThis person doesn't share my opinion = jumping on the bandwagon. /smh
BJ Stephens
2022-10-11 05:30:59 +0000 UTCI mean they're both decent shows, but both big letdowns after the amazing Hill House.
BJ Stephens
2022-10-11 05:26:22 +0000 UTCI really hope she gets to RoP eventually.
Lucifer Moon
2022-10-11 03:23:32 +0000 UTCActually not all LotR fans hate so I would appreciate if do you not speak for all of us. Also, Tolkien's stuff could 100% use a rewrite in certain areas. Just because you are a fan of something does not mean you need to act like it is perfect and treat it like a 'sacred cow' that can never be reworked or redefined. Also, no offense but in all honesty, George CAN NOT write worth shit. I respect he has fans but that does not make him actually talented ( though such things are very subjective ).
Lucifer Moon
2022-10-11 03:23:01 +0000 UTCRoP doesn't world build, it re-writes. It's really got very little to do with Tolkien, which is why LotR fans hate it so much.
Franco
2022-10-11 02:58:29 +0000 UTCDid you look at the poll results? And reading that RoP is better written makes me lol.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-11 02:55:25 +0000 UTCReally think Rings of Power is the move here. The world building for LOTR is so much better than Game of Thrones and I feel Rings of Power has been written better already than House of the Dragon
Dodge 10
2022-10-11 00:14:40 +0000 UTCThere all bad. Seriously consider Nikita with Maggie Q.
Ryan Cornett
2022-10-10 23:42:20 +0000 UTC….dude…I don’t mean don’t watch things to know if you like them or not. I mean when you don't like something know when to move on. Again, I don’t like the reboot Star Trek movies, but it’s an easy, no-cost problem for me to solve. I have no idea how this show is working out for amazon ratings-wise, but it’s got a good critic RT score and a passing grade audience score. And of course you personally are not who the show is made for. The hardcore fans who know all the lore, the guys with Tolkien’s or Roddenberry’s brain in a jar, aren’t the target audience. General audiences are. It can be a bitter pill but studio's bread is buttered by normal-ass people who have no idea who JRR Tolkien or Gene Roddenberry are, and just want to watch a fun show or movie.
Ken
2022-10-10 21:25:38 +0000 UTCThe real issue is that 6 minutes of no dialogue in HotD still tells you more about the characters than multiple episodes worth of dialogue in RoP
Rich House
2022-10-10 21:23:30 +0000 UTCJust finished episode 5 of The House of Dragon OMG that’s got to be the most boring episode ever, not a single word spoken for 6 minutes at the start. So predictable ending
RebRox65
2022-10-10 21:13:20 +0000 UTC@Brian, I was going to write a response to Ken but you said it all.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-10 20:57:21 +0000 UTC@Ken - "I don't rant online " I do.😏 "harass the people" So far as I know, no one is "harassing" anyone. "You don't have to let fiction you don't like into your life." Sadly, yes I do. Firstly, how will I know if I like it or not without watching it? Secondly, how else do I give valid criticism of said show/film without ever seeing it and being informed about it? In that case, the people throwing out baseless insults such as "hater" or "toxic" would be 100% correct. I strongly believe that if you're going to criticize something you need the evidence to back up that criticism. How did you know the JJ Trek films weren't for you without watching them? "But you should also recognize these things aren't created for you personally." That's nonsense. Then as Amazon, why spend the billion dollars buying rights to the IP and creating a show just to make a failing product that not only doesn't appeal to the vast majority of the fans of said IP, but basically shits all over the lore and it's author? Why not just create a generic fantasy show? Answer: They tried desperately to take a shortcut to a Game of Thrones style fantasy dynasty, put it in the hands of incompetent fan fiction writers with no respect for the lore, and royally screwed the pooch.🤷
Brian Jones
2022-10-10 20:52:45 +0000 UTCI advise people who love PJ's LotR or the books to avoid RoP like the plague it is. Just because RoP uses some of the names of characters and places from LotR does not make it LotR, it's literally LotR in name only.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-10 20:06:20 +0000 UTCoscar -So it's a Tolkien adaptation for casual Tolkien fans? So as long as you don't really care about Tolkien or his lore it's a good show? Is this a joke? are you trolling us? You're basically saying it's a show made to exclude actual Tolkien fans. If that was their approach to this project then it was the stupidest idea in series history.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-10 19:59:27 +0000 UTCI've been a big Star Trek fan since I was a kid. I have a pretty strong dislike for the JJ movies. So what I do about that is I don't watch them. I don't rant online or harass the people involved or get in fights with people who do like them or do any of the shit some parts of fandoms have been known to do. All the Star Trek I liked before they existed is still there for me to enjoy. Nobody came and took it away and it takes zero effort to not watch those 3 movies. All the LotR stuff you liked before this show existed is still there. You don't have to let fiction you don't like into your life. But you should also recognize these things aren't created for you personally. And I think people too often equate "I don't like it" with "It's bad"
Ken
2022-10-10 19:58:46 +0000 UTCKen - so you're saying you have no investment in LotR? Fine, but many people do, and it's okay to be passionate about works of fiction and not want them to be trashed by talentless "creators" and money-grubbing corporations.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-10 19:39:00 +0000 UTCErik, thanks for your concern but I'm already protecting myself by not watching this toxic waste that pretends to have something to do with Tolkien. I can now barely watch clips of fake galadriel without a overwhelming nausea taking hold, so I've stopped watching those too. As for future seasons, while I know Amazon has famously deep pockets how long will even they continue to pour money into a series with ever diminishing ratings?
Richard Maurer
2022-10-10 19:18:39 +0000 UTCThe original commenter called likers of the show "low iq unenlightened half wits"...which is clearly raising valid criticism and not tossing petty insults. I'm just entertained by how unhinged people get over works of fiction. I've never seen the show, just watched the movies the one time in theaters, and never read the books. LotR is not my thing. But sometimes things I do like change over time or there's a sequel or spin off I don't like. And when that happens what I do is ....just get on with my life, just shrug it off, like, "Okay, this isn't for me. Oh well."
Ken
2022-10-10 18:34:11 +0000 UTCif you want to see something different, I would recommend the mini series Hornblower
Edouard Suenson
2022-10-10 18:22:26 +0000 UTC@Erik Stevenson - Ah, back to the good old standby..... It's somehow "toxic" to point out the blatantly obvious flaws of a bad show. Above it was "gatekeeping". That one got a good chuckle out of me as well. Care to go for the full trifecta of "sexist", "racist", and "homophobic" as well? Points for using the word "triggered" though.😂 Pro Tip - If you're going to attempt to defend a show, try doing it based on the merits of said show (GL with that one on RoP) rather than simply tossing petty insults at those raising valid criticism.😏👍
Brian Jones
2022-10-10 18:03:41 +0000 UTCandor is really the first thing disney has done with star wars where it seems like they're trying and taking it seriously (I enjoyed Mando but it's like 90% filler if we're being honest), so it gets my vote. Also, I feel like HotD probably has not peaked yet in terms of interest. That said, House of the Dragon is a better show than Andor at this point objectively, though not perfect. The producers seem to have decided that the more outlandish and sensational elements of GoT is what made it great - e.g., incest, gratuitous violence, over-the-top body horror, etc. Rather than the complex characters, tactile and robust world, deep lore and history, and sharp plot. If you watch S1 of GoT it's really not that exciting in terms of the sensational stuff i mentioned. It's a lot of talking and travelling and stuff, yet still very gripping. But HotD still has good characters and plot, at least so far. I quibble with a few things but it's good.
Shawn E Mercado
2022-10-10 17:54:59 +0000 UTCI think the LOTR was one of her first series every watched. It was the first video I watched of her and subbed here to watch her see the trilogy for the first time in its entirety.
Adam Baker
2022-10-10 14:47:37 +0000 UTCRichard, it's clear you're in an emotionally vulnerable place, so I'll just say I hope you work to limit your exposure to the show as future seasons come out to make things easier for yourself.
Erik Stevenson
2022-10-10 14:20:04 +0000 UTCThe way RoP has aggressively triggerd a set of "fans" is hilarious. I suppose it was only a matter of time before the LOTR IP had a toxic fanbase reveal themselves exactly like SW, DC, etc.
Erik Stevenson
2022-10-10 14:15:20 +0000 UTCi dont agree with that. its true that as an adaptation has a lot of flaws but for non hardcore tolkien fans its a good show.
oscar latorre
2022-10-10 13:05:07 +0000 UTCIdek you watched LOTR if Im being honest. I do like the movies but I also have zero love or intrigue about the show. If you do end up watching it I'll watch it with you but other than that I had no plans to cause it didn't look like anything special to me judging by the trailers and reviews
Paul R Peddy
2022-10-10 13:02:48 +0000 UTCWe here to advise Nat, Nat gonna watch these shows regardless, she’s already invested her time in watching GOT & LOTR just like us, I’d imagine just like us she has her own curiosity to satisfy. It always interesting to see what Nat feelings are it’s nearly always different to our opinions.
RebRox65
2022-10-10 11:52:37 +0000 UTClol
Megatto
2022-10-10 11:46:43 +0000 UTC"cleverly written" lmfao
Megatto
2022-10-10 11:45:45 +0000 UTCi agree. skip that dumpster fire
Megatto
2022-10-10 11:43:12 +0000 UTCplease spare yourself the disappointment that is rings of power. had to stop watching after episode 4, it was that bad i couldn't take it anymore. house of the dragon is the superior current show and i have enjoyed every single episode so far.
Megatto
2022-10-10 11:37:23 +0000 UTCi dont think i can even get HBO max down here. Ill have to be a bit of a scallywag to access it.
Cripkie
2022-10-10 09:51:55 +0000 UTCI like The Rings of Power alot.
Kirk Andrew Uhl II
2022-10-10 05:43:04 +0000 UTCplease never rings of power
Merrick
2022-10-10 05:23:40 +0000 UTC@Robert Bonfante - No Robert, I look at the past as someone who lived through it. I was there in those internet forums in the early 2000's, were you? Again, most people who had qualms with those changes ended up warming up to Jackson's adaptation specifically BECAUSE it showed so much respect regarding the lore and especially the writing. Because even with the changes, the writing directly reflected the style and substance that made the source so good. And in the end the box office and accolades the movies received directly reflected the quality of the adaptation as well. With RoP, it's literally being torn apart episode by episode. And it rightfully should be based solely on the writing, but it has so many other flaws that are impossible to overlook. The viewership is falling off with every episode according to the Nielson ratings and even mainstream publications are criticizing the show now. It's to the point that Amazon is running damage control on the show and calling anyone who criticizes it "patently evil". Which to be quite honest, is absolutely hilarious. This habit of studios attempting to blame an audience for a bad product gets more and more transparent and amusing every time it happens. But if you ever needed an indication of popularity and viewership, look no further than the 1k+ that have voted in this poll. Rings of Power, Amazon's BILLION DOLLAR show based on one of the most beloved franchises of all time is currently getting a beatdown by a series about a Disney Star Wars B character from a one off film. Just think about that for a moment.
Brian Jones
2022-10-10 04:30:50 +0000 UTCBoys, I'll say it again: Get a room. I don't need this bickering in my e-mail.
Ken Schneyer
2022-10-10 04:14:26 +0000 UTC@SouloBoy143 - The garbage writing, bad dialogue, and completely ridiculous story arc? The complete disconnect from the source material and disregard for the timeline? The wooden performance of it's female lead (to the point you can feel the splinters through the screen)? The drastic polar opposite portrayal of established characters, and lore? The poorly staged and edited fight scenes and action sequences? The blatant attempts at modern day allegory (something Tolkien himself openly detested)? The hit or miss CG? The laughably bad looking props and armor? Do tell, which valid criticism would you care to discuss? No need to pretend... I'm happy to entertain any of it.
Brian Jones
2022-10-10 04:03:51 +0000 UTCAndor will only be 12 episodes for season 1, most of which are only 35-45 min in length. If the quality of the show doesn't dip in the next 7 episodes, and the pace elevates a bit (which I suspect it will in ep. 6), I'd recommend it over Rings of Power six days a week and twice on Sunday. Regarding HotD, after watching tonight's episode, I'll genuinely be shocked if Paddy Considine isn't nominated and likely wins an Emmy, right along with the writing staff and showrunners. Certainly can't say any of that regarding the characters or writers involved with RoP.
Brian Jones
2022-10-10 03:51:34 +0000 UTCWe all know why people are hating on RoP lol They can pretend it ain't cause of that, but we know it is.
ConsciousChronicle143
2022-10-10 03:08:19 +0000 UTCFellas, fellas, would you take this conversation to some other sub-thread? Some people want to yuck my yum, which is understandable if rude. But I've got notifications turned on, so I get an e-mail whenever one of you responds to my original comment. Enough, already: a lot of us disagree with each other, and nobody looks likely to be persuaded in the near future.
Ken Schneyer
2022-10-10 02:11:25 +0000 UTCShows how little you know about the source material, the time jumps are in the books, or you know and even worst, you wanted them to make shit like Dumb & Dumber did.
Daniel Vezina
2022-10-10 02:03:12 +0000 UTCWhoa, talk about triggered. Of course I know J.R.R. Tolkien didn't actually write The Silmarillion, him being dead and all at the time it was published, but it is based completely on his writing, something RoP can't say. And I guess somehow this poll shows the LOTS of people who like this show, or maybe it's the falling viewership? Also, you misquoted me, I compared RoP to "rotten, maggot-infested oranges" rather than "maggot, infested oranges"[sic] as you wrote. As anyone can see my quote is much more eloquent (and accurate) than what you wrote
Richard Maurer
2022-10-10 01:44:02 +0000 UTCBecause it is much better than the other two,
Richard Maurer
2022-10-10 01:09:50 +0000 UTCDisregarding what? If you objectively hate the show -- fine. You do you. But if you have the problem with dealing with real history then that's your problem. I don't see the show as "maggot, infested oranges" anymore than I see your critique as eloquent and high-minded. But if my comments trigger you, than you can direct your complaints to the nearest wall, because I frankly don't care. People put a pedestal on the Silmarillion that I'm not sure it even deserves. Did you know that the Silmarillion wasn't written by JRR Tolkien but by his son, with the help of some other unrelated author? I've yet to meet anyone who has ever got introduced to Tolkien by the Silmarillion, but I know plenty that entered it through Peter Jackson's films. How about the fact that the reasons that no one is allowed to reference the Silmarillion or other works of Tolkien is because Christopher Tolkein so hated Peter Jackson's movies? Or the fact that Simon Tolkien is an advisor to the show. The real reason you are replying to my comment is the fact that there are actually a LOT of people that do like the show and that's screws up your narrative. So maybe stop pretending that your outrage is justified and eat your rotten apples elsewhere...
Robert Bonfante
2022-10-09 23:42:18 +0000 UTCAnd for me Sean Pertwee is the best Alfred Pennyworth over any of the the movie ones
RebRox65
2022-10-09 23:05:32 +0000 UTCAndor is not 24 episodes
TwistedMagoo
2022-10-09 22:57:41 +0000 UTC@Robert - God I hate when people do whataboutism with PJ's LotR and RoP. You're comparing apples to rotten, maggot-infested oranges. "if you acknowledge that ROP doesn't have legal access to the Silmarillion and aren't bothered with some interesting alterations of the lore" - how? How could anyone call themselves a Tolkien fan and still climb that mountain of disregarding?
Richard Maurer
2022-10-09 22:46:35 +0000 UTCOr we could just skip RoP as its performance in this poll shows that not many people care that much. Or alternately put it in polls against the Marvel Netflix shows and get a laugh out of watching it get buried.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-09 22:34:02 +0000 UTCThe last season of Got will almost certainly disappoint you anyway.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-09 22:27:51 +0000 UTCSpoiler Alert?
Richard Maurer
2022-10-09 22:26:29 +0000 UTC@ Ryan - LOL.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-09 22:24:00 +0000 UTCThat is correct, she's seen the first season only. But unfortunately I think this is why it's lost the previous polls it was on. But it would've lost to HotD anyway, so.......
Richard Maurer
2022-10-09 22:22:17 +0000 UTCThere are those of us who consider calling people halfwits to be an unenlightened thing to do. And I say that as someone who hasn't managed more than 1 episode of Rings of Power so far, but eagerly awaits each HotD episode.
Ed Green
2022-10-09 22:17:34 +0000 UTC^This^
Richard Maurer
2022-10-09 22:17:03 +0000 UTCRop is Garbage. She-hulk is really entertaining, Ms. Marvel was pretty good too. Thor Love and Thunder was garbage. Feels good to not be a woke/anti-woke zombie.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-09 22:11:19 +0000 UTCDoes jumping on the bandwagon mean having a different opinion from you? Amazon buried RoP from the start with their horrible PR campaign. I'm sure Amazon thought that the fans would accept whatever garbage they chose put out just because they slapped Tolkien's name on it.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-09 22:04:07 +0000 UTCIronically Ryan Arcane has gotten mmore votes in its last 2-3 polls than aany of these 3 shows here. So that says a lot about interest in these shows in the patreon community vs arcane
Joshua Kon
2022-10-09 22:00:00 +0000 UTCThis galadriel has nothing to do with the actual character Galadriel. A completely awful rewrite of a great character by talentless hacks who somehow thought they could do better than Tolkien.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-09 21:50:23 +0000 UTCPlease react to the Gotham tv series, it ran for 5 seasons and it's about Bruce Wayne as a child before he became Batman, the show also has origin stories for Batman's enemies like the Joker, Scarecrow, Bane etc. It was a fantastic show and if you loved the Dark Knight trilogy movies you'll love this show.
JokerDanny
2022-10-09 20:25:39 +0000 UTCPeople look at the past through rose-tinted glasses. Peter Jackson's LOTR is universally loved and deservedly so. But Peter Jackson did make a lot of changes (a lot of which was to give female characters more agency/bigger roles) and there was quite a lot of backlash from the gatekeepers because of that. Social media didn't exist back then, so it was easy to ignore the haters, but they were there. As far as Rings of Power is concerned, if you acknowledge that ROP doesn't have legal access to the Silmarillion and aren't bothered with some interesting alterations of the lore, it's actually a very interesting and fascinating show. Social media exists now, so the haters can engage in their own groupthink and then broadcast their gripes to everyone else.
Robert Bonfante
2022-10-09 20:13:07 +0000 UTCThis is such a strange take
Dante
2022-10-09 19:07:21 +0000 UTCGood point. I guess it’s a sign of a good show if you’re in the edge of your seat waiting for the next week
Trish Murphy
2022-10-09 19:02:17 +0000 UTCNat took Arcane out back and shot it. When you lose that many polls it’s the humane thing to do.
Ryan
2022-10-09 18:43:19 +0000 UTCI love the Sandman and think they did a great job with the adaptation but it’s probably best to wait and see if Netflix renews it, you never know with those people.
Ryan
2022-10-09 18:40:33 +0000 UTCYeah, release scheduling. That's actually a really interesting discussion. While I love the Netflix binge model, I think even they have started to realize you keep more subscribers for longer with a weekly release schedule. HBO has turned it into an event with their shows over the decades, and as much as I'd like to be able to binge everything at my leisure, I totally understand the financial side. Sadly, at the end of the day, it always comes down to the almighty dollar. What is kind of puzzling to me is the release times of some of these shows though. It seems they would target primetime more often when they do week to week. Sort of like the HBO model.
Brian Jones
2022-10-09 17:50:11 +0000 UTC@HQB - Yes, I'm fully aware of what a "slow burn" is. The Wire is very intricate in both it's dialogue and character interactions and development. Which is why the plot doesn't feel slow even though the show is a "slow burn". Andor is TBD in that department, and the writing, while certainly better than anything Disney has been producing with most of it's other Star Wars catastrophes, falls MILES short of the dialogue and writing in The Wire. But I'm still giving it a chance, and it hasn't made me hate it yet, which given the recent offerings from Disney Star Wars is a pretty major accomplishment. The production value of the show is solid, the cinematography is quite good, and the performances are as good as to be expected. It's just early yet, and has room for either great success or horrible failure. Which is why I'm hesitant to recommend it until it at least finishes or get's close to finishing it's debut season. We've been burned by Star Wars too many times over the last seven or so years. The wise move is caution.
Brian Jones
2022-10-09 17:16:48 +0000 UTCBad Sisters is awesome but I really hate this waiting for an episode a week for who dunit part. Nat already reacted to Ted Lasso on Apple so I thought Bad Sisters & Severance could work. And they’re much shorter than Lasso. ✌️
Trish Murphy
2022-10-09 16:41:23 +0000 UTCJackson's Lord of the Rings films had reverence and respect for the Tolkien lore. The changes it did make were done with great care, and the writing was up to Tolkien standards. So much so that it even brought most of the doubters and complainers around to warming up to it. Rings of power on the other hand, essentially shits all over it for all the reasons I've listed in other comments above. The writing is atrocious, the plot is nonsensical, and while the billion they spent on it might have bought them a few pretty CGI spectacles, that doesn't forgive the plastic looking props, flimsy to laughable dialogue, and the complete disregard for Tolkien, his characters, and his universe. The worst of which is it's attempt at allegory, something Tolkien himself openly detested.
Brian Jones
2022-10-09 15:58:05 +0000 UTCSeverance is a great call and one of the better sci-fi offerings to come down the pike lately. Great performances and some pretty creative writing. Sadly most of the stuff on AppleTV is getting overlooked due to it being the less popular of the streaming services. I'll have to check out Bad Sisters, I hear good things though.
Brian Jones
2022-10-09 15:45:28 +0000 UTCShe Hulk is adequate, being carried on the backs of some extremely talented actors because the writing is heavy handed and atonal. I hope Tatiana gets into an Avengers movie or something where she can really do the character justice.
TwistedMagoo
2022-10-09 15:37:26 +0000 UTCSandman is an excellent piece of art.
Ken Schneyer
2022-10-09 15:29:26 +0000 UTCWhat about The Sandman? It's an excellent show loosely connected to the DC universe. I think you'd really enjoy it.
Cassandra Molocea
2022-10-09 15:21:36 +0000 UTCKerlee, while I don't agree on Arcane I wouldn't have everyone like the same things. All art if subjective. Imagine how boring things would be if everyone loved the same stuff. I agree with your points of The MCU properties. I thought Ms. Marvel was a bit better than she hulk, but I loved both. They also have the fact that they are pretty close to the source material.
PickettsChargingPort
2022-10-09 15:19:28 +0000 UTCNot sure what you mean. I understood jokes that were made, yes.
Ken Schneyer
2022-10-09 15:09:49 +0000 UTCYou got jokes
Boticus
2022-10-09 15:01:19 +0000 UTCRings of Power is fascinating, especially to those who have read the Appendices to LotR and the Silmarillion. I'm guessing that you haven't read those, but I still think it's (a) visually gorgeous, (b) beautifully acted, and (c) cleverly written. There was a moment in one of the episodes which (because of something I remembered from the novel of Fellowship of the Ring) made me start to cry. People who are complaining about the show probably should have been complaining about Jackson's LotR films for similar reasons.
Ken Schneyer
2022-10-09 14:58:30 +0000 UTClol
Ken
2022-10-09 14:33:46 +0000 UTCTo even mentioning this unholy pile of crap that tries everything to insult Tolkien and his work is disappointing. Self entitled Actors who are talking more about political ideologies then their Characters or if these Characters even make sense in Tolkiens world.(Elrond and Durin aside) Writers who openly say they give a shit about Tolkien and that they never ever looked up Tolkiens work, willingly rewrite Tolkiens Stories and Characters and a stupid script is everything you need to know about this abomination. Only some low iq unenlightened half wits could like this Garbage Show and now hate me if you want, I dont care. This Show is an insult to everyone who likes Movies and Shows and think longer then 2 seconds about them.
Curaitis
2022-10-09 13:45:41 +0000 UTCWell, I can't say anything about why people dislike Andor because I haven't seen it (don't trust Disney Star Wars after so many subpar series), but I'll give a shot at explaining why some don't Rings of Power. I've only seen the first two episodes of the Rings of Power, and for me, the world and interactions between characters were so sterile that I stopped watching it after the first two episodes. It might have gotten better, but I'm reluctant to keep going with a show that disinterested me so much, especially since I've stuck with shows like that in the past that never really got better (Wheel of Time, Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Book of Boba Fett, and older series that I don't remember the names of). Also, I didn't really care for, or was interested in, any of the characters in the show. With House of the Dragon, I'm not as big a fan of it as many people seem to be. I liked the first couple episodes, but after that, it just got stale (mostly to do with the massive time jumps; yup that's plural). I just don't think that many time jumps provides a compelling series, but to each their own
Ilsuk Yang
2022-10-09 13:09:26 +0000 UTC@Hold Your Fire - The reason RoP got the criticism it did prior to it's release was because the people involved with the show went out of their way to push identity politics. Since the show came out, the criticism has shifted to just about everything you mentioned. It's a horribly written show that completely disrespects the lore of a beloved universe and it's author. While some of the CG (SOME) is pretty to look at, the actual props for the show look pretty horrible. The armor in many scenes literally looks like plastic and something you would purchase at a discount Halloween costume store. Never mind the absolutely illogical storytelling and established characters being portrayed in ways that completely contradict their written counterpart. It's basically fantasy fan fiction.... And it's BAD fantasy fan fiction at that. But this is what happens when you put people in charge who clearly aren't familiar with, or just outright don't care about the source material. Many people, including myself shared the same worries for House of the Dragon, and for the same reasons. Actors and showrunners using press junket time to champion their activism. Thankfully that show (so far) has been completely contradictory to some of those ridiculous interviews. I think criticism online has been pretty fair to both of these shows. HotD has managed to do the damn near impossible. It actually brought back many of the people who were soured by the ending of GoT. And they did it with great writing, amazing performances, and adhesion to the core ideals that made the GoT universe so popular to begin with. The takeaway? Actors and showrunners should just STFU about whatever political causes or identity politics they personally care about when it comes to promotion of shows and films. It's NEVER beneficial to the marketing and almost always hurts the viewership. Hollywood will eventually learn this lesson. There's only so many financial losses producers and stockholders are willing to take. There was a time when film and TV studios would take it on the chin when they made a bad product rather than being blatantly stupid in attempting to blame the audience for not liking a bad product. The sheer arrogance involved in creating a product, driving people away while your supposed to be hyping them up for said product, and then blaming THEM because they didn't like said product due to it's failings in quality and heavy-handed agenda, is laughably astounding. But again, the purse strings will eventually tighten and correct the issue. We just have to endure a whole lot of stupidity in the meantime.
Brian Jones
2022-10-09 12:30:16 +0000 UTC@Smoolio - It's sitting at a quite rotten 36% audience score on RT and is one of the lowest viewed shows Marvel has produced for Disney+ to date, but I have no doubt the Marvel stans will rally for it in a poll. They've yet to admit that anything in phase four was bad even though the vast majority of it has been sub-par and viewership continues to wane for both the shows and the films. It's kind of amusing to watch. At this point I think some people would literally applaud Kevin Feige taking a dump in their cornflakes. But hey, you do you.😂 As to how I'm going to "cope with that"? The same way I always do. I'll enjoy Nat's summations about the show while relentlessly tearing it apart, detail by detail, episode by episode, at length in the comment section for the hot garbage that it is.😏👍
Brian Jones
2022-10-09 12:13:33 +0000 UTCI’d Nat to watch She-Hulk especially ep 8 when we see the new look Daredevil.
RebRox65
2022-10-09 11:17:12 +0000 UTCAndor is 24 episodes long and we’re only on episode 5 right now, it’s one for the pin board for next year I think when it completes.
RebRox65
2022-10-09 11:08:13 +0000 UTCPretty sure she has only seen the first season?
Jerry Gonzalez
2022-10-09 11:06:40 +0000 UTCConsidering we got a long journey ahead of us in the Netflix Marvel Universe, and before the new Daredevil And Punisher shows start I’d suggest we power through Rings and Dragons and continue DD2 NMCU. That way everyone happy can’t really do SW Andor as it 24+ episodes and it only on episode 5.
RebRox65
2022-10-09 11:02:59 +0000 UTCShe-Hulk is great though, reviewing great, and doing great. Nat will love it, how will you cope with that.
Smoolio
2022-10-09 10:56:52 +0000 UTCShe said she has seen it
Isak Haugerud
2022-10-09 10:53:12 +0000 UTCI don't understand the hate against RoP or Andor. I'm loving them so far. RoP is a beautiful show, and I'm finding it a very interesting fantasy watch. Andor is so different from anything Star Wars that I've seen. HotD is a bunch of white haired people talking in a room.
Grune
2022-10-09 10:52:54 +0000 UTCNice try. Except I don't bring up the legend of Korra in every post and poll. The arcane people do. Even when it loses polls.
Caomhan84
2022-10-09 08:05:04 +0000 UTCMartin doing his best to show other fan bases also have rude outliers.
Smoolio
2022-10-09 06:49:19 +0000 UTCHow was that rude? Totally fine to express interest.
Smoolio
2022-10-09 06:47:35 +0000 UTCFor the love of God will you tlok people please just stop. Every single YouTube post, Patreon post, poll, even reactions that have nothing to do with tlok.... You bring up tlok anyway. Just stop. The poll clearly says this is for currently released buzzy shows. tlok doesn't apply.
Chris
2022-10-09 06:00:32 +0000 UTCMaybe...The Haunting Of Bly Manor or Midnight Mass?
sarCC
2022-10-09 05:29:31 +0000 UTCI'll expand on my silly comment. I'm truly here for anything Natalie watches and I sympathize with the fact that YouTube creators have to watch popular IPs in order to get views (LotR, Star Wars, GoT, etc). Totally get it. I think I've mentioned Arcane twice in the past year because those IPs combined would probably make up about 55+ videos already on this channel and I think Arcane would make for good content. Something a little different is all. I actually have zero interest in the IP it's based on (sorry!). But it's slick animation, sound editing and good storytelling and surprised me quite a bit. I watched it months after it came out because I had zero interest in LoL, so my expectations were extremely low. Sincere apologies if my previous comment came off as flippant and rude to anyone. Just sad to see that the window for Arcane seems to have passed for now. I'll live :) Cheers!
Jason Smith
2022-10-09 05:18:41 +0000 UTCViserys who is so weak/inept that he literally waffles around as his family prepares to kill each other off? I can barely stand seeing him on screen whimpering as he completely implodes. Galadriel is quite fun to watch in TRoP IMO, have loved her storyline with the Numenoreans.
Erik Stevenson
2022-10-09 05:03:12 +0000 UTCNo need to have watched GOT to enjoy HOTD, imo.
K-man2U
2022-10-09 04:38:20 +0000 UTCLmao i havent seen Game of Thrones, I might have to finally watch it. Or I could do an absolute giga chad move and watch house of dragons without watching GOT.
Tarquin Pillay
2022-10-09 04:31:16 +0000 UTCOh nice. I'd really like seeing you react to HOD. When Time Warner gives me days off I always stop by to make sure I catch a clip. This will be fun!
More Batteries
2022-10-09 04:26:46 +0000 UTCThere are a lot of "hate" channels on YT right now that are bashing RoP just for views. It's what they do. I've watched a few and it's clear that while they bring up some valid issues, they also invent issues that aren't really there. I do not like RoP overall but I keep watching it because I so desperately want to like it. My reasons for not liking it have absolutely nothing to do with "wokeness" or the pre-release promotional hate it got. It is entirely due to the poor writing. I'll admit it's true I'm having a difficult time with the lore differences, but mostly the writing doesn't make sense even within its own story. There are things I absolutely love: certain characters and their relationships mainly. Some surprisingly good. And for the most part it looks incredible. Beautiful art, sets, and costumes. But, they don't overcome the weaknesses for me overall. The writing is bad. Nonsensical, cliche, with dialogue that is just cringe at times and some lines re-used from the movies and text way out of context and anachronistically. My main issue with the show though is with the season finale next week, I don't have a clue what the last 7 episodes have been building up to. There's no tension. But man I still want so badly to like it.
Marty McGee
2022-10-09 04:04:28 +0000 UTCI like all 3 of these shows (and She-Hulk, which is not in the poll, but it's happening at the same time, so I thought I'd include it in my response.) But yeah, HotD is my favorite going right now. It just has so much more drama and action and dragons.
Jeremy Thomas Wilson
2022-10-09 03:55:53 +0000 UTCI agree
Jerry Gonzalez
2022-10-09 03:44:07 +0000 UTC@Endling_king "they hate just for the purpose of spreading hate!" 🙄Here we go with this bullshit again🙄 Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why most of the people who didn't like many of the recent Marvel films DID like Iron Man, The Avengers, Infinity War, Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, etc....etc....etc..... It's because recently the quality has taken a hard left turn into shitsville. Maybe if you actually took the time to hear WHY they didn't like many of the recent offerings from Marvel, rather than simply writing them off as "haters" you might actually learn something. There's a reason why many love House of the Dragon over Rings of Power. One is written extremely competently while the other sounds like the dialogue and story was written by an eight year old who's never actually read Tolkien. There's a reason WHY people enjoy The Boys but despise She-Hulk. One is written and acted competently with some originality and humor while the other looks and sounds like it was written by 30 somethings a few years shy of hitting the wall, with zero sense of humor, a house full of cats, and a large supply of box wine. Nine times out of ten there's a valid complaint backing it up and something severely lacking in the show. Maybe you can look past it, and hey, good for you, but some of us prefer quality in the shows and movies we watch. I wouldn't say that makes us "haters" so much as it makes you overly forgiving and too easily satisfied.🙄
Brian Jones
2022-10-09 03:18:00 +0000 UTCWouldn’t mind The Boys starting a watch along leading up into season 4 next year.
djKENTO
2022-10-09 03:08:13 +0000 UTCHoD is really good. But I would definitely do The Boys in the future as well.
Phillip Elbert
2022-10-09 02:47:39 +0000 UTCI too wished that she would have watched Legend of Korra because I think she would have enjoyed it. But she was influenced by people who told her to wait, and it did lose the poll it was in, So I don't foresee it being seen on this channel at least into 2023
Caomhan84
2022-10-09 02:45:37 +0000 UTCI know it's not on the list but I just finished watching you watch ATLA and I think you would enjoy The Legend of Korra. The only part I really disliked was seasons 2. 1 is good, but 3 and 4 have some moments that I liked more than ATLA!
Wyatt Berlener
2022-10-09 02:42:57 +0000 UTCFor the love of God will you Arcane people please just stop. Every single YouTube post, Patreon post, poll, even reactions that have nothing to do with Arcane.... You bring up Arcane anyway. Just stop. The poll clearly says this is for currently released buzzy shows. Arcane doesn't apply.
Caomhan84
2022-10-09 02:36:50 +0000 UTCGood thing she reacts to 2 or 3 things at a time, and there's a big wide world out there.
Martin
2022-10-09 02:34:50 +0000 UTCCould not give a crap about Arcane.
Martin
2022-10-09 02:32:41 +0000 UTCIt's not on the list. Don't be rude. Some people don't care about video game animations.
Martin
2022-10-09 02:32:27 +0000 UTC100% agree
David Martin
2022-10-09 02:28:27 +0000 UTCSure, but the world of Thrones was not a world i fell in love with. The whole affair was too dour and depressing for my taste and the show barely kept my interest. Prequels and spin-offs rarely impress me in general, and i really don't give a single shit about the history of the Targaryens.
Opti_Frog
2022-10-09 02:23:14 +0000 UTCShe should do daredevil definitely before shehulk
jamie jones
2022-10-09 02:16:28 +0000 UTCArcane??! Where's Arcane??
Jason Smith
2022-10-09 02:12:58 +0000 UTCI thought since Arcane was so close, it might be the next show. I can't lie, I'm a little bum'd. Xmas comes but once a year.
Powers209
2022-10-09 02:05:38 +0000 UTCI may be new to the group, so forgive me if its been brought up previously, but, why "The Boys" is not part of the list? LOL!
Alan Felicia
2022-10-09 02:00:20 +0000 UTCagreed, a lot of people like to rip on it way to much because it doesnt "measure" up to the movies / books. these are the same people who find any reason "valid or imaginary" to hate on the marvel shows like She-hulk. they hate just for the purpose of spreading hate!
Endling_king
2022-10-09 01:54:41 +0000 UTCHOTD and Andor are way above expectations and Rings of Powers is way below expectations.
Daniel Vezina
2022-10-09 01:51:00 +0000 UTCNone of those.. all terrible.
Derrick Earl Tsaipi
2022-10-09 01:49:21 +0000 UTCHi Nat. I have a few suggestions. On AppleTV+ there are 2 series I highly recommend. The Irish dark comedy Bad Sisters has 1 more episode this season. (Sharon Horgan) Not sure if there will be a season 2 but I’d love to see these Irish sisters for many more years. Of these 3 recommendations, this is my favorite Also on Apple, Severance. Quirky, bizarre but dark and funny. (Ben Stiller & Adam Scott) Finally, have you ever seen Britannia? 1st three seasons are available on Prime video. I think thee are 27 episodes across the 3 seasons. I hope there will be a 4th season. Just thought I’d suggest it since it’s off most peoples radar Historic dramas might not be your interests but it’s well done and followed the Roman invasion of Britain featuring Druid’s & Celts Definitely Bad Sisters though. Thanks ✌️
Trish Murphy
2022-10-09 01:32:22 +0000 UTCThat requires some imagination to guess what the hell people even wrote in the now deleted comments sections, but sure judge an entire fanbase off of that
Rich House
2022-10-09 01:29:04 +0000 UTCAgreed Magoo, I'm also not a huge fan of Arcane after having watched the show. It's fun but just isn't very interesting. Once we finish these current shows I'd be down for She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel. I especially enjoyed She-Hulk. That one's great! Ms. Marvel.. eh. It's fun but isn't nearly as great as She-Hulk.
Logan Kerlee
2022-10-09 00:45:44 +0000 UTCI'm really enjoying Rings of Power! I'd love to watch a reaction for it. :)
Logan Kerlee
2022-10-09 00:39:46 +0000 UTCCouldn't disagree more, haven't seen a more disappointing show in years.
BJ Stephens
2022-10-09 00:18:55 +0000 UTCI don't think Andor is aimless at all, I think it's being hurt by Disney's release strategy. I agree HotD is a good pick, though
TwistedMagoo
2022-10-08 23:56:28 +0000 UTCseems broad to say 'the channel would love it' I watched Arcane, I respected some of the work the artists were doing on it...definitely did not love it though.
TwistedMagoo
2022-10-08 23:53:51 +0000 UTCI think Andor has the best writing...but I understand why HotD is doing well, it also has very good writing, and perhaps a slightly more propulsive plot. As far as The Rings of Power...it's very beautiful, and there are some nice moments, and some decent acting in it...but the writing is paper thin. I think there has been a lot of backlash against it for dumb reasons...but there are plenty of good reasons not to watch it too.
TwistedMagoo
2022-10-08 23:51:26 +0000 UTCHope you can watch Rings of Power soon. Imo is a really good show
Roland The Gunslinger
2022-10-08 23:50:10 +0000 UTCI think you would really enjoy Rings of Power, not knowing much about the timeline differences. It’s such a beautiful show if you can separate those. And there’s only 1 episode left so by the time you watch it all would be released ☺️
Bec Watson-Tollis
2022-10-08 23:32:21 +0000 UTCNot surprised Ring of Power is coming last with all the things I hear about ppl crying about it.... I myself am enjoying Rings of Power much more than House of the Dragon tho. Seems most ppl these days just jump on the bandwagon of everyone else is saying this so that is my opinion also..... Andor is pretty good, I think you would enjoy all of these.
Ben Curran
2022-10-08 23:19:31 +0000 UTCHouse of the Dragon is run by completely different showrunners and with much more direct input from George R R Martin. It's also, unlike Game of Thrones, based on completed source material.
Ed Green
2022-10-08 23:18:00 +0000 UTCFor once we agree Mr Maurer. 😊
Opti_Frog
2022-10-08 23:17:57 +0000 UTCYes, i watched all of GoT. Had a looong pause after season 1, because i hated that the only character i cared about at all died. So i few years later i binged through seasons 2-6 and it was sort of entertaining but mostly depressing. I noticed a clear drop in writing quality from season 5 onwards (when the showrunners ran out of books) and by the time seasons 7 and 8 rolled in it was just complete garbage. I firmly believe that S8 of GoT could be used as a masterclass in how NOT to write for television. I didn't hate all of GoT, but i didn't like enough of it to want more. My wish is that one day... one day, many moons from now... Nat will watch The Wheel of Time.
Opti_Frog
2022-10-08 23:16:32 +0000 UTCI don't understand why RoP seems to get a pass from people who still watch on the fact that it has little to do Tolkien's writing. Especially after we saw the mess that GoT became after they ran out George Martin material.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-08 23:06:21 +0000 UTCMs. Marvel and especially She-Hulk are not duds. Both are actually quite entertaining. I find it interesting that these two shows are attacked so frequently, for no apparent reason.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-08 22:53:44 +0000 UTCMs Marvel would be next for the MCU
PickettsChargingPort
2022-10-08 22:31:42 +0000 UTCYou clearly missed the point of the show. While doing promotion for We Own This City David Simon said he felt he didn’t cover Police brutality much in The Wire and only touched on it and that’s one of the many reasons he told that story. But sure you know what your talking about, David Simon not so much.
Ryan
2022-10-08 22:26:40 +0000 UTCAgree about the Brett version. The production quality alone was out of this world
PickettsChargingPort
2022-10-08 22:18:30 +0000 UTCThat’s fine clearly it’s just based on a much shittier book than a song of ice and fire
HQB
2022-10-08 22:17:42 +0000 UTCThe entire show is police abusing their power and abusing people. Do you really need me to list off all the instances of police brutality?
HQB
2022-10-08 22:15:37 +0000 UTCThe Brett version is far superior to the newer one but I doubt that would ever come up here..
REDR58
2022-10-08 22:14:38 +0000 UTCI feel sad for Arcane too. Nat would love it. The channel would love it. She would get eyes to her channel that aren't here now. Many would stay. Just a win win win win win. But, Nat has a business here too. And she needs to do current popular stuff to capitalize on it while it's ---- current and popular. To that end - frankly, I think she should watch all 3 of these right now! And THEN Arcane. Then Sandman. And then at that point we will be into 2023 and we will see what is popular then. WAAAY before going back to Daredevil S2 or any Jessica Jones at all. And the Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk series are duds. No need to watch them just to "complete the set".
Mastervodo
2022-10-08 22:11:37 +0000 UTCHow about on the actions of many? How about all of Mary Cherry’s comment sections being hellscapes because of aggressive Arcane fans.
Ryan
2022-10-08 22:11:26 +0000 UTCLet's not judge an entire fanbase on the actions of a few.
Smoolio
2022-10-08 22:07:46 +0000 UTCThis is for trending shows which are currently being released
Rich House
2022-10-08 22:04:01 +0000 UTCNat has plenty of time to catch up to it. Season 2 ain't dropping until probably late next year or 2024.
Saifu
2022-10-08 22:03:09 +0000 UTCWhy no Arcane?
Smoolio
2022-10-08 21:59:44 +0000 UTCI don't think you'll enjoy Rings of Power all that much because it's a really slow burn and the writing isn't exactly the best. Andor is really good, but I feel like you kinda have to be some type of Star Wars nerd to really appreciate it. That leaves HotD being the best choice imo.
Saifu
2022-10-08 21:49:02 +0000 UTC@Ryan It's "gatekeeping" to call out the obvious and gaping flaws of a show now? I remember when that was just "toxic", "racist", and "sexist".😂
Brian Jones
2022-10-08 21:30:56 +0000 UTCHotD is the overall best of the 3. But Andor is probably my favorite. It is slow, but that's because it's not an action thriller. The first 3 episodes could've probably been condensed into 2 and it would have flowed a bit better, but the last 2 episodes have been really good. RoP has unfortunately been a disappointment for me. Good actors, but terrible story and writing.
Marty McGee
2022-10-08 21:17:56 +0000 UTCNope. I finished Game of Thrones and I don't enjoy HotD ;)
Michael G. Munz
2022-10-08 21:04:37 +0000 UTCWARNING! There is a character death spoiler in GOT! Not sure what season but a guy named Joffrey mentions it
Tessa M
2022-10-08 20:57:47 +0000 UTCI'm not sure why you are complaining about a minority of fans and all you are doing is amplifying them, 90% of the perceived issue with Arcane fans is off the back of people attacking them
Rich House
2022-10-08 20:56:53 +0000 UTCAndor is legit.
abz
2022-10-08 20:55:14 +0000 UTCyou should watch memento. sad it didnt win the last poll
beansprouts
2022-10-08 20:50:09 +0000 UTCWhy is house of the dragon first... from were i'am from we are very disappointed Europe don't understand
Obito
2022-10-08 20:48:32 +0000 UTC'No interest whatsoever' is a remarkably absolute opinion. Have you seen Game of Thrones?
Ed Green
2022-10-08 20:44:21 +0000 UTCI think She-Hulk first, with its shorter episodes (2 at a time perhaps) and then Daredevil S2.
Ed Green
2022-10-08 20:42:16 +0000 UTCMy personal problem with House of Dragons is Matt Smith, I just keep seeing Dr Who!! Plus he really doesn’t say much in the show
RebRox65
2022-10-08 20:37:50 +0000 UTC@HQB I’m starting to question whether or not you’ve seen more than 4 episodes of The Wire if you think police brutality was ever anything more than a minor topic in that show. It’s about how civic institutions fail the populace.
Ryan
2022-10-08 20:31:40 +0000 UTCThat’s some mighty fine gatekeeping you got going on there Brian.
Ryan
2022-10-08 20:29:25 +0000 UTCI’ll never understand that phenomenon where fans unilaterally decide there is only one proper way to engage with and enjoy their favorite property.
Ryan
2022-10-08 20:27:25 +0000 UTC@Blackbaldrik Slow is not a criticism I would levy against Rings of Power, but I'd certainly question how big a fan of Tolkien your friends really are. The core characters have practically zero relation to their written counterparts. Especially Galadriel. And in regards to the writing, it bears zero resemblance to the great work of Tolkien. It's so bad by comparison that it's insulting.
Brian Jones
2022-10-08 20:14:56 +0000 UTCThat's refreshing to hear.
Rey
2022-10-08 20:03:28 +0000 UTCFair enough comment, why are fans so rabid. Just enjoy a show for what it is
William Burnham
2022-10-08 19:54:22 +0000 UTCBreaking bad
Nick Freer
2022-10-08 19:16:12 +0000 UTCAll 3 are really good. Wonder which one is going to win lol. Lets get back to daredevil after one of these shows.
jamie jones
2022-10-08 19:08:06 +0000 UTCImagine thinking any of those 3 shows are actually worth a crap.
Ryan
2022-10-08 19:05:57 +0000 UTCReluctantly, i actually really started to enjoy Rings of Power. So of course it's at 38% audience score at RT, because fanboys never like what i like 😆 No interest in Andor or HoD whatsoever.
Opti_Frog
2022-10-08 19:03:42 +0000 UTCSame. I was in the same boat but I'm glad I eventually watched it in spite of that. It really is amazing and would be right up Nats alley.
PickettsChargingPort
2022-10-08 18:54:33 +0000 UTCViserys is not likeable? On the other hand, Galadriel is probably the most unlikeable character in the history of a tv show.
André Risvall
2022-10-08 18:53:34 +0000 UTCThe life of a Sandman fan, be it comic or Audible drama or television show, is a life of constantly trying to get the masses to understand how amazing the Sandman is and almost no one ever listens.
Ryan
2022-10-08 18:52:20 +0000 UTCThere was that one jerk who ruined it for Arcane, too. I almost never watched the show simply because of that person.
PickettsChargingPort
2022-10-08 18:51:01 +0000 UTCTrue Detective season 1 got it beat but let’s hope it doesn’t go the way of True Detective season 2.
Ryan
2022-10-08 18:49:56 +0000 UTCAlso a great show. Looks like Nat wants to give the MCU a rest for a while, though. Can't blame her.
PickettsChargingPort
2022-10-08 18:49:48 +0000 UTCThe Expanse is definitely worthy of a watch
PickettsChargingPort
2022-10-08 18:47:44 +0000 UTCAlthough HoTD is probably going to win and I'm really enjoying it, I'd definitely recommend checking Andor soon. It is several levels of quality above Obi Wan and Book of Boba Fett.
Bou _
2022-10-08 18:46:26 +0000 UTCYou mean the recent one? It was good. I thought you meant the one they did back in the 90s with Jeremy Brett.
PickettsChargingPort
2022-10-08 18:45:47 +0000 UTCShame about the trolls. That one idiot was insufferable. It's a remarkable show that will likely never make it here because of that ass.
PickettsChargingPort
2022-10-08 18:43:49 +0000 UTCYeah it is, far and away a much better show, but if she misses a plot point or looks away from the screen for 10 seconds the fans of those shows won’t badger her until she stops watching, I’ve seen them do it to other content creators I patronize and would hate to see it happen to Nat.
Ryan
2022-10-08 18:41:03 +0000 UTCSeriously these have been some bummer ass shows, Andor is alright but the other two 🤮
Ryan
2022-10-08 18:37:04 +0000 UTCOk I don’t think you’ve seen The Wire. It’s literally the slowest show ever. It’s amazing but everyone knows it’s slow paced. It’s called “the slow burn” on a regular basis when people recommend it. We also see two sides in Andor, the cops and the criminals just like the fucking wire. Next episode it looks like the cops are going to set up a make shift HQ just like the wire. The show is an allegory for police brutality which was a huge point of the wire. If you don’t see the similarities you haven’t seen the wire. You may have watched it but you clearly didn’t understand a single thing. It’s really sad that you can watch a show multiple times and miss the whole point.
HQB
2022-10-08 18:35:45 +0000 UTCI appreciate that Arcane is not on the list but it is far better than all 3 shows that are
William Burnham
2022-10-08 18:35:31 +0000 UTCYeah some of the moments in episode 3 are the most impactful scenes I’ve ever watched. Normally with stuff I’m late on (invincible for example) I end up thinking it’s way overrated but arcane was just amazing all the way through. Don’t get me wrong I liked invincible but it wasn’t nearly as special as arcane for me
Banana Hammocks
2022-10-08 18:35:14 +0000 UTCI did TRoP bc it's the only one I have yet seen. Seeing that HotD is leading the poll makes me wanna dive in so I will soon enough. I've had enough of that galaxy far far away to last me the rest of my life but not od Middle Earth or Westeros and Essos... lol P.S. I messaged you with a NATMARES suggestion I think you will want to see,
MertzRocks
2022-10-08 18:35:07 +0000 UTCGlad to see Arcane finally be given the Hook, I pushed for it here once, but then I met the fanbase and have been worried about unleashing them unknowingly on Nat since. Please don’t put that show on a poll again, those fans 😱those are some really bad fans.
Ryan
2022-10-08 18:34:11 +0000 UTCBest season 1 of a tv show ever imo
KhaimeraTech
2022-10-08 18:32:53 +0000 UTCI haven't seen RoP yet, (waiting for the full season to binge it,) but every single other Tolkien fan I know who didn't decide sight-unseen before it even released that it was going to be awful, says that it's actually pretty good. The only real criticism I've heard is that it can be kinda slow. It's hard to take people's word on how bad it is, considering this is basically copy-paste the exact some controversy that met the original movie trilogy back in the day. All the "purists" called the movies an inaccurate mindless cashgrab that insulted Tolkien's legacy back then too. From the outside it seems like it's gotta be doing something right. Near as I can tell it's still more watched than either of the other shows.
Blackbaldrik
2022-10-08 18:23:09 +0000 UTCAndor is literally giving me chills!
Yasin
2022-10-08 18:18:47 +0000 UTCif you can't tell by my profile picture HOTD is my vote lol
Trinity Davis
2022-10-08 18:11:48 +0000 UTCThis is where I'm at as well' RoP is my favorite of the three. HotD would potentially be better if literally any of the characters were likable.
Erik Stevenson
2022-10-08 18:03:48 +0000 UTCWe all have our preferences and that is ok :)
Hannah Wheelock
2022-10-08 18:03:10 +0000 UTC@HQB they arent speedrunning anything. Why would they spent more time on things that dont have anything to do with what the show is about. The first HOTD season is just set-up/build-up. I get that the pace seems fast but there is nothing that they should be spending more time on, its just that you personally dont see where the show is going. If they spent time on anything in the 10year timeskip it would be a wasted episode about nothing. Theres only a bunch of important events leading up to the Dance, no need to stretch out the prologue
DarquanJr
2022-10-08 18:02:39 +0000 UTCI'm watching all 3 currently and I enjoy HotD the most. I also think it'll make for better reactions from Natalie vs the other two shows, which both have a bit of an aimless first season so far.
K.N.
2022-10-08 17:42:23 +0000 UTC@HQB I've seen The Wire in it's entirety more than once. Great show, but it's not among the choices given, is it?! And no, The Wire wasn't slow at all. It kept a pretty strong pace throughout all of it's seasons. Andor could surprise me, but at present it's still pretty sluggish. I hope that changes, but I wouldn't go out of my way to recommend it just yet, and I certainly wouldn't go comparing it to one of the best shows ever written for TV.😂
Brian Jones
2022-10-08 17:42:22 +0000 UTCI’m afraid Daredevil 2 is the next then it’s Luke Cage.
RebRox65
2022-10-08 17:38:18 +0000 UTCThough i wish the boys was a option over rings of power i still wouldve chose house of the dragon cause its so good but maybe the boys will be a option once stranger things is over
FateMalone
2022-10-08 17:36:56 +0000 UTCRoP is what happens when Amazon wants it's own Game of Thrones and puts something precious (pun intended) into the hands of incompetent fan fiction writers. You can give them all the money in the world (in this case, a billion+ dollars) and they will still completely screw it up. The writing is just .....SO BAD..... And even the production design is godawful. The armor looks like plastic, the CG is hit or miss, the characters are completely off type to the source material, and the story arc is nonsensical.😂
Brian Jones
2022-10-08 17:35:57 +0000 UTCIm not a big fan of it either but im glad you enjoy it and continue to do so dont let others sway ur opinion
FateMalone
2022-10-08 17:35:55 +0000 UTCI’m watching all 3 at present and the one I look forward to each week is Rings of Power, the others are good but Rings has the edge.
RebRox65
2022-10-08 17:34:24 +0000 UTCHave you ever heard of a show called The Wire? I would look into it. It’s even slower than Andor but is highly regarded as one of the best shows of all time. Just because you have the attention span of a goldfish doesn’t mean it’s bad.
HQB
2022-10-08 17:31:53 +0000 UTCDon't forget about INVINCIBLE. First season is incredible.
Quixotic
2022-10-08 17:29:02 +0000 UTCFinal season is still better than all 3 of these shows imo.
Joshua Kon
2022-10-08 17:28:10 +0000 UTCThe final season of Sherlock is shit though. First season is the best.
Quixotic
2022-10-08 17:27:25 +0000 UTCAww, Nathan, I love you too.😂
Brian Jones
2022-10-08 17:26:01 +0000 UTCYou’re an absolute shitshow
Nathan Smith
2022-10-08 17:23:45 +0000 UTCI like it!
Nathan Smith
2022-10-08 17:23:01 +0000 UTCWhile there are a few subtle hints to GoT here and there, you really don't have to finish it to enjoy HotD. It takes place centuries before the events of GoT.
Brian Jones
2022-10-08 17:22:31 +0000 UTCSherlock would be a fun 1 episode a month series to do. Each episode is a movie in itself and they are very good
Joshua Kon
2022-10-08 17:22:19 +0000 UTCI used to get annoyed by how many people asked for arcane. But I just watched it for the first time last week and it was unbelievable and perfect for you. I’m jumping on the train of asking for it.
Banana Hammocks
2022-10-08 17:21:22 +0000 UTCThe rings of power is incredibly bad. Do not watch!
André Risvall
2022-10-08 17:21:15 +0000 UTCI'd argue that Andor is still pretty slow, but it has a while to really change my mind. It's competently shot and written thankfully, unlike Obi-Wan or Boba Fett, so it has that going for it, but the overall writing arc is still TBD. The other two shows have almost completed their first season. HotD is killing it in just about every way possible (so far). RoP is just a $1 billion dollar dumpster fire that completely disrespects the lore and it's creator in about every way imaginable.
Brian Jones
2022-10-08 17:16:09 +0000 UTCAll you really need to say is Not Tolkien.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-08 17:15:33 +0000 UTCJust because I love Luke Cage and prefer it over Daredevil
Danishprince
2022-10-08 17:13:19 +0000 UTCInvincible I'm down for, don't care about Arcane.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-08 17:12:07 +0000 UTCOh I would LOVE her to watch Sherlock!
Lisa Tosti
2022-10-08 17:09:39 +0000 UTCBabylon 5!
David Sumner
2022-10-08 17:06:42 +0000 UTCWhy Luke cage? Daredevil S2 is next in the shows viewing order
ButtyOh
2022-10-08 17:05:39 +0000 UTC@HQB "Horrific"?😂 How so? And yes, the pacing does jump through time, just like the book does. That's the whole point....smh.... It's a retelling of Westeros history from an unreliable narrator/narrators. It's basically a wiki of the history. Andor may get better, I honestly hope it does, but at present it's moving at a snails pace.
Brian Jones
2022-10-08 17:01:28 +0000 UTCVoted for the best show on the list, HotD, but I'm sad to see Andor not doing better. While the first three episodes were kind of slow, it's really picked up since then. Meanwhile RoP is doing better than it deserves.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-08 16:59:12 +0000 UTCI was personally hoping for Luke Cage but I fully understand the desire of trying out some of the new shows :D
Danishprince
2022-10-08 16:56:21 +0000 UTCThat writing in RoP is definitely not Tolkien level
Rey
2022-10-08 16:54:55 +0000 UTCImagine calling andor a snooze fest lmao
Miramir
2022-10-08 16:54:52 +0000 UTCOoh, Sherlock would be really cool! And Arcane: always XD
Yani Dodge
2022-10-08 16:54:04 +0000 UTCHaha, same. I love the show, but I've been reticent to keep mentioning it because of the few trolly/toxic fans, and I'm really tired of being lumped in with toxicity in a majority of my fandoms at the moment... :P
Yani Dodge
2022-10-08 16:53:38 +0000 UTCplease stop. The fandoms and their toxicity has no impact on actual quality of the show . If that was the case , then Nat should have never even started MCU , Start Wars and superhero movies .
Edgar
2022-10-08 16:51:48 +0000 UTCYou can tell all the tRoP fan bois and Andor enjoyers are salty. All the top comments are positive and excited about HotD. Then all the bottom comments are the salty tears of those who realize there show isnt going to win. House of the Dragon is easily the better of the three in every aspect. I am watching all three and The Rings of Power is okay. Yet, everytime I think it is getting better something really dumb happens. It is at least enjoyable though. Which is more than what I can say for Andor. Litteraly 5 episodes in and nothing has even happened yet. HotD = Dragons (need I say more) tRoP = Writing Catastrophe Andor = Snooze Fest
NobleSon32
2022-10-08 16:51:41 +0000 UTCMost people I know who watch RoP tell me they're bored with it and are ready to quit. It's not really Tolkien's work anyway, which is why I didn't bother to watch it.
Richard Maurer
2022-10-08 16:50:36 +0000 UTCEuphoria season??
Jamiya
2022-10-08 16:49:41 +0000 UTCI'd have loved to vote for Arcane too. But yea there seemed to be a particular genre for this poll.
Orion Skies
2022-10-08 16:49:27 +0000 UTCArcane or Sherlock homes BBC series. Those would both be interesting and entertaining to see you react to.
Retz
2022-10-08 16:46:38 +0000 UTCNo need to hide, keep suggesting it. She will hopefully get to it eventually.
Brian Jones
2022-10-08 16:46:04 +0000 UTCBeing horrific doesn’t mean good. The pacing is insane. I can see why you think Andor is slow is you love the show that time jumps every single episode. They’re basically speed running through Westeros history and just playing the highlights.
HQB
2022-10-08 16:45:26 +0000 UTCAndor probably won’t win but if you do watch it, it’s best to watch it 3 episodes at a time. It seems as though that’s the trend of the show is 3 episode arcs.
HQB
2022-10-08 16:43:21 +0000 UTCArcane /I'll be hiding under my bed
PickettsChargingPort
2022-10-08 16:40:10 +0000 UTCI have zero interest in House Of The Dragon, and the other two shows have been somewhat "meh". But I'm voting for Rings Of Power because it's gotten better the last few episodes while Andor continues to bore me.
Patrick Egan
2022-10-08 16:39:03 +0000 UTCspeak for yourself lmao
John Lewis
2022-10-08 16:38:13 +0000 UTCHouse of the Dragon..... By far the best writing, cinematography, and performances of the three. Andor is slow and it's quality is TBD. It has a good look and feel, but the story currently feels like it's going nowhere. Rings of Power on the other hand, is an absolute shit-show with bad writing, bad performances, and zero respect for the lore. But hey, if you're into watching Amazon quite literally burn money in a dumpster while Tolkien spins in his grave, then Rings of Power all the way.😂
Brian Jones
2022-10-08 16:38:08 +0000 UTCAndor can be slower paced than we’re used to with Disney SW, but it’s so much more mature and grounded and character driven, loving it so far. Also has a Bladerunner vibe in places. Also if I remember correctly, you enjoyed Rogue One, which this is a prequel series to, and is clearly inspired by.
DDK
2022-10-08 16:36:08 +0000 UTCMan talk about 3 mediocre shows that are overrated. Rings of power will put you to sleep, house of the dragon only does WOW moments with 0 character building behind it and Andor is just grasping at star wars nostalgia. I guess out of these 3 Andor makes the most sense as reactions will come out while show is basically running where Rings of power and House of dragon will have ended by the time it hits youtube
Brian Kidling
2022-10-08 16:27:16 +0000 UTCVastly more enjoyable. House of the Dragon's general shittiness has been the biggest bummer of the fall. It's just bafflingly unenjoyable. Rings of Power has been unexpectedly delightful though.
Allan Rumberger
2022-10-08 16:26:12 +0000 UTCI am happy to finally see it done. The toxic kids were crying in every poll when it lost out.
Brian Kidling
2022-10-08 16:25:15 +0000 UTCI was hoping she would react to The Sandman one of these days when one of the other shows she watches wraps up even for a season and then break in between. Arcane seems to be less and less likely anytime soon, or even Legends of Vox Machina.
Game Wizard001
2022-10-08 16:23:58 +0000 UTCYeah sad to see arcane, the show that had the best outing vs marvel shows, doesnt get a chance in a non marvel poll
Joshua Kon
2022-10-08 16:22:16 +0000 UTCNo, Arcane just isn't relevant to this poll. This poll is for currently running shows.
Bryce
2022-10-08 16:22:15 +0000 UTCHouse of the dragon has all the bad qualities of ending GOT series. Massive timejumps, speed traveling and next to no character development for major events that happen. Its like making the first 3 seasons of GOT all in 1 season
Joshua Kon
2022-10-08 16:21:29 +0000 UTCSeems like the chances of Arcane are finally done. Out of these three I am going to choose andor. House of Dragon just be speedrunning like final seasons of game of thrones.
Joshua Kon
2022-10-08 16:19:50 +0000 UTCi dont like any of these :.(
beansprouts
2022-10-08 16:19:34 +0000 UTCThe Good Place, The Expanse, We Are All Dead - maybe soon
Avenging Dark
2022-10-08 16:15:44 +0000 UTCHORROR RULES!!!!
Joshua s. Jackson
2022-10-08 16:15:30 +0000 UTCArcane!
Heretic
2022-10-08 16:14:47 +0000 UTCI think you are watching too many shows I can't keep up. When are going to get back to more movies? Also I am not a fan of horror so I can't wait till after Halloween when the horror stuff ends.
Tony Mandler
2022-10-08 16:13:17 +0000 UTCI've resigned myself to the fact she won't get to Arcane until season 2 comes out so like in another few years lol
Emilie
2022-10-08 16:12:20 +0000 UTCSandman should have been on this list.
Alexander Steegon
2022-10-08 16:12:12 +0000 UTCHouse of the Dragon is agressively mediocre
KingsCustard
2022-10-08 16:10:54 +0000 UTCI voted house of the dragon, but I will defend rings of power, it’s better than the reviews
Rory cornetto
2022-10-08 16:10:53 +0000 UTCGood thing about HotD is its an actual finished book by George, it's all the political intrigue without any zombie subplot if that's your jam.
Rey
2022-10-08 16:10:11 +0000 UTCAndor I’m liking a lot
Narutoanime16
2022-10-08 16:09:50 +0000 UTCHOUSE OF THE DRAGON LETS GOOO
Len
2022-10-08 16:09:15 +0000 UTCHouse of dragon is probably my least favorite of the 3 but it's good
Christopher Robles
2022-10-08 16:08:52 +0000 UTCWitcher
Neon Ghost
2022-10-08 16:08:44 +0000 UTCAndor is okay. Rings of Power is okay. House of the Dragon is fucking amazing.
Jason Dolan
2022-10-08 16:08:30 +0000 UTCDon't bother with HOTD if you weren't impressed with how GOT deteriorated is my advice. I tried it and couldn't get past episode 3.
Emilie
2022-10-08 16:07:27 +0000 UTCAndor is so fucking good, refreshing Star Wars content.
Miramir
2022-10-08 16:07:17 +0000 UTCAll of them are good and worth watching... HOWEVER... I'm hoping for Natalie to react to the shows ARCANE and INVINCIBLE... :)
pmuser
2022-10-08 16:07:08 +0000 UTCI really hope you bring back euphoria soon. The second season is so crazy and so beautifully shot and acted in.
Maddie
2022-10-08 16:07:02 +0000 UTCms marvel
Hailee
2022-10-08 16:06:14 +0000 UTCShould watch cyberpunk edgerunners it’s great
Jaden Acevedo
2022-10-08 16:06:03 +0000 UTCIt's a prequel so definitely
Rey
2022-10-08 16:05:54 +0000 UTCNo, most of the lore was layed out in the earlier seasons of GOT.
Andrew Polinski
2022-10-08 16:05:53 +0000 UTCI love marvel but am very grateful for a break lol forgot how long these Netflix shows are.....House of Dragon is soooo good I think you're gonna love it
Rey
2022-10-08 16:05:31 +0000 UTCGah - tough one between Andor and Rings of Power. The last half of Game of Thrones soured me enough that House of the Dragon isn't even on my radar. But, it's winning...by a lot...so I hope you enjoy it! And who knows, maybe I'll give it a shot along with you.
Tony Sanson
2022-10-08 16:05:18 +0000 UTCNo, it's a prequel set 200 years before Game of Thrones, when the Targaryens were at the height of their power.
Ashton Knapp
2022-10-08 16:05:01 +0000 UTCAndor FTW
Emilie
2022-10-08 16:04:57 +0000 UTCIt has to be House of the Dragon. Everyone is watching that right now. Everyone. lol
Walter Lopez
2022-10-08 16:04:45 +0000 UTCLets be honest here it was always going to be HotD, even though I find Rings of Power to be more enjoyable.
Andrew Polinski
2022-10-08 16:04:34 +0000 UTCHappy Saturday, Natalie! 😊 "House of the Dragon" immediately got my vote for this one. Have a great day & rest of the weekend! 😊 Stay Golden! 💛
Randee Carreno
2022-10-08 16:04:34 +0000 UTCI picked House of Dragon so that I'll bring myself to watch it, too
Fostena
2022-10-08 16:04:25 +0000 UTCI havent finished game of thrones yet tho.. would I have to, to be able to enjoy house of dragon? 😕
Anthony Jackson
2022-10-08 16:04:17 +0000 UTCIf these are are the choices then I have no reason to be here right now.
Brian Leonard
2022-10-08 16:04:07 +0000 UTCAll of them haha 😆
AC5555
2022-10-08 16:03:49 +0000 UTCHouse of the Dragon for sure! Another big YouTuber stopped doing Andor content because it wasn't getting many views.
Ashton Knapp
2022-10-08 16:03:28 +0000 UTCI'm good with any of these
SLAPAPOW
2022-10-08 16:03:19 +0000 UTChouse of the dragon omg yess
Emilia
2022-10-08 16:03:15 +0000 UTCHouse of the Dragon !!!!!
Daniel Luna
2022-10-08 16:02:49 +0000 UTC
