Kingdom Episode 7 PT1
Added 2021-06-13 09:43:25 +0000 UTC
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....coming late (and i wasn't gonna comment on this bc it's such a talked-about thing in kpop and the people who refuse to acknowledge it won't be swayed so, whatever...but i wanted to say it bc im glad you mentioned seeing it -- and some earlier comments, ahem, seem to rag on you for doing so) but yes. hip hop and rap *does* come from very specific struggles that only certain marginalized communities experience. you cannot separate it from its roots, and when you try to, it comes off very obviously. i think the best rappers in kpop are the ones who write about their own struggles, the ones who come from a genuine place, and those idol-rappers who maybe don't have the knowledge or personal-struggle that you need aren't inherently bad, but they are not on the same level. and that itself isn't bad either -- you have great idol rappers who are great performers, and they don't necessarily try to be the genuine rappers that others do. but as for this segment, i think that these artists ARE coming from a meaningful place, and you can tell they mean what they're saying. it's when the styles/styling/clothing/brands/hair/makeup try to capitalize on traditional hip hop & rap looks, which are derived from american and black artists, that it becomes an issue. i'm glad you mentioned when things stood out to you, or that it came to mind. TL;DR .... good on ya, kpop prince 😅
nva
2022-06-20 03:49:26 +0000 UTCNot sure if you realized it, but you adjusted your position in your chair at the same time that Bobby did, at the 30:45 mark... LOL. I think you two would get along really well!
Zesti
2021-12-21 23:50:39 +0000 UTCIt's pronounced TRY-BEE, short for "Triangle Being". When you see the period, you'll know that there is a split in the syllables/phrase, a separation of sorts between letters or sounds.. Like A.C.E is pronounce Aye-Cee-Ee, not ACE, or I.N is pronounce EYE-EN, not IN. The former leader of IKON was B.I (pronounced BEE-EYE, not BI).
Zesti
2021-12-21 21:50:25 +0000 UTCI find it so hilarious that you keep calling Eunkwang a dad when he’s like…our age. He’s only 30! 😂
I_KPOP_Fan
2021-09-15 07:15:13 +0000 UTCI find it crappy that YG rappers who are also idols get respect but rappers from idol groups in other companies get shit. Like, beyond 3RACHA and the Big 3. The shit the hiphop community put rappers like RM and Agust D through for wearing makeup or dressing up to get on stage, when you have G- Dragon and TOP doing the same thing. It shouldn’t be about a label, but about your flow and what you are saying. Rappers like Changbin and Hongjoong are running the 4th Gen. The hiphop community is just backwards. Hell, society is. I completely understand what you are saying about CA. Like people lose it when an idol wears braids or dreads, ignoring that the hairstyle has been in many countries for decades.
I_KPOP_Fan
2021-09-14 15:16:44 +0000 UTCBro hip hop isn’t just black so no it’s not any type of appropriation hip hop is a lifestyle and Bobby and yg in general all their original artists came from that scene from teddy gd hip hop is global not just black or American it might have started that way but it’s no longer that thanks to someone like Eminem who spread it to Europe back in the day. Hip hop is about expressing yourself. It’s not the crappy modern rappers who mumble and act like gangsters. That’s why Bobby fits it perfectly because he is carefree and does his own thing regardless of what others think that’s why he was able to go somewhere like show me the money and win as a idol. Also probably because he’s yg and they’re naturally respected unlike jyp where changbin got screwed because of the prejudice against idol rappers even though he’s clearly better than a lot of them there. But yeah I don’t look at hip hop in color or culture I look at it as a form of self expressionism I don’t care about none of that culture appropriation crap people get all upset about for no reason mainly because I like to live my life how I choose it’s not other peoples business what I do except something like the n word that would be bad if idols or non black peoples were going around saying that 😂. But other than that I don’t care about most of the other stuff idiots get mad about today because they’re too sensitive to even give them the time of day lol
Chad Williams
2021-08-30 10:55:02 +0000 UTCWhen did I? I came out of this show loving Bobby
KpopPrince
2021-08-08 04:29:03 +0000 UTCI think you don't know how much of a great rapper Bobby is. It is evident on how his hoobaes worship him. Having to win SMTM beating other underground rappers is a great feat. He is an all-rounder. As well as Sunwoo. Just can't believe how you underestimated him clearly because of bias but still.
slampoets
2021-08-08 04:19:06 +0000 UTCThat controversy with what he said about Taemin was weird, Suju and Shinee are super close, and Taemin has often expressed his desire to bridge between masculine and feminine elements with his solo work. I saw what he said as a compliment to what Taemin was trying to achieve. I still think that even knowing how many times Taemin was told he looked like a girl in Shinee's early days (and as a SHAWOL since 2008 who has been to their concerts). I really don't see it as something Taemin would get upset by.
Juliette
2021-07-09 11:16:52 +0000 UTCAww my little elf heart broke when you said you didn't know Donghae! Growing Pains that he sings with Eunhuyk as a Super Junior D&E title is possibly one of the greatest song's I've ever heard. Also, Lia Kim is HUGE! Her choreo's include Sunmi's magnificent Gashina!!!! (I recommend Eunkwang's cover of Gashina when you get a chance :) it's known as Kwangshina). She also did created MAMAMOO's HIP, and TWICE's TT among many others. Other recomendation, if you are crushing on Minhuyk check out his work a HUTA, probably start with YA?
Juliette
2021-07-09 10:51:28 +0000 UTComg, u confessing about ur man-crush was my fav part of this reaction!
hi_k99
2021-06-14 05:05:22 +0000 UTCi dont know much either but YG doesn't only do music, they have other celebs like actors etc signed to them too and i'm sure there's other subsidiaries as well, like the modeling label by yg and all...
hi_k99
2021-06-14 04:51:06 +0000 UTCi swear i'm shocked by sf9's visuals on a daily basis too, my bias is dawon but rowoon is out-of-this-world gorgeous too and as i'm watching IMITATION nowadays, despite having started it for Yunho i keep finding myself searching for hwiyoung's scenes so he's bias wrecking me these days
hi_k99
2021-06-14 04:40:47 +0000 UTClove the spirit, at this point i had stopped completely caring for the ranking too, i'm here for the stage and the interactions only too!
hi_k99
2021-06-14 04:12:52 +0000 UTCI looked up the Shindong drama and I could see either side of the argument. I lean more towards a poor choice of words. I personally think he was trying to compliment Taemin on his androgynous look in the music video and saying he's manly and cool but also pretty. He just went about saying it in the wrong way - but that's MY take on the situation. On his variety show he had Victon too and he was amazing with them and that's why I grew to love him. He seems like a really positive person so I don't think he meant anything negative...seems out of character. People make mistakes with how they voice things. It happens :/ Yep - that was Jessi on Sunwoo's clip "One of you have to be busted" LOL ...
KPOP Stan Sara
2021-06-13 18:00:58 +0000 UTCYou're right that IKON was formed primarily with a hip-hop focus. The reason Bobby is their only current rapper is because their leader and other rapper of the group, B.I (who also wrote a lot of their songs), had to leave due to some B.S. scandal. Also, BTOB lost Ilhoon (who was my personal bias and favorite rapper of the group) due to a "scandal" involving marijuana usage. I wish all the teams could have performed in their full, original state for Kingdom. So many key people weren't there, but they still managed to kill it. I just imagine the next level performances we could have seen if they had been whole. Also, Round 3 is broken into 2 parts, so when they refer to the 2 parts, part 1 is all of the collab performances and part 2 will be the individual teams' 'No Limit' performances. They didn't really talk about how part 2 will work during the start of episode 7.
The OG_SG
2021-06-13 15:04:11 +0000 UTCSunwoo is part of Tbz's maknae line but their maknae is Eric! but anyway he's their main rapper and i feel like his raps are underrated even though he goes hard in almost all of their songs so I'm glad he got to show more people what he's capable of during the unit performance! Also for the thing with Shindong, I don't really think he meant any harm and I think it was just a poor choice of words possibly. I've seen his videos where he took NCT Dream for a trip and he honestly comes off really genuine and kind and he became one of my favourite hosts because of it, he always takes care of his hoobaenims really genuinely.
Fana Shafeeq
2021-06-13 13:55:15 +0000 UTC
