The Vampire Diaries - S02E15|♡Uncut Reaction &Review ♡
Added 2020-10-25 02:25:26 +0000 UTCI can't tell you how happy I'am to see Lexi 😭 I'm crying
Part1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/eahy0o30nazkznf/The%20vampire%20diaries%20S2xE15%20part1encode.mp4?dl=0
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Amen to that.
Keith Engel
2021-04-11 13:32:52 +0000 UTCAlaric "killing" Elijah was admittedly badass... if only he stuck the landing lol
I Am Not Chamari
2021-02-11 19:31:18 +0000 UTCSame here about Lexi...people went nuts over a ten minute character.....
WillAlwaysLoveClark
2020-11-03 05:06:49 +0000 UTCI share your view on Lexi.
Patpet
2020-10-26 16:41:37 +0000 UTCSo now we know how Uncle John knows so much. The Gilbert journals told him that Stefan and Damon were vampires. I wonder if Uncle John had been keeping an eye on them, knowing they would potentially return to Mystic Falls. On the surface, the situation with Damon and Andie may seem the same as he was with Caroline, but it isn't. He actually likes Andie. I'm not going to defend what he is doing, because it still comes into my top 10 of Damon's worst actions. What I will say is that Andie's maturity does have an effect on Damon. He is around teens most of the time. He doesn't have an adult to talk to other than Ric. He hasn't compelled her the same way he compelled Caroline. He hasn't compelled her to forget things. He compelled her to not fear him, keep his secret and to fall for him. I don't think the last one was needed because the other 2 were enough for that to happen. This is more like what Katherine did to Stefan. Katherine used to feed on Damon, and he didn't mind it. I guess that is why he doesn't feel guilty about it. I am not going to say I am comfortable with Damon's behaviour, because I'm not, I hate it. Sometimes it is hard being a fan of Damon's. The first time it was mentioned about Stefan being a ripper was in 2x8. Damon said to Stefan “Since we're road trip bonding, remember the days when all you lived for was blood? You were the guy who ripped someone apart just for the fun of it.” A frequently overlooked comment. I get Stefan not wanting to reveal his past out of guilt and shame, but I do question whether Elena would have dated Stefan in the first place had she have known the truth about him. What is clear is that our perceptions may have been initially skewed due to when we first meet the brothers and their state of mind when the show started. Every time Ric suggests to Damon that there will be no killing, Ric does the honors instead. A nap is probably the best way to describe it, although they don't appreciate those naps, as already proven by Elijah. He was only napping for minutes and he wasn't happy about it. Damon knew where they were, whereas Elijah need his witch to do a spell to find Elena. Ir gave Damon a head start. Damon needed to feel ready to apologise. He's taken the first step, the look on his face suggested he felt guilty. But for Damon, until he regrets his action, he won't be able to apologise, it is not his way. He doesn't apologise unless he 100% means it. And to be fair, that is what an apology is all about. There is no point saying sorry if you don't mean what you say. I'm not one of those who is completely in love with Lexi. I don't dislike her, but I feel she wasn't good for Defan. She was good for Stefan, but not the brothers as a whole. It is clear from 1x8 that she and Damon didn't get along. He doesn't dislike her in this episode, and she didn't dislike him. Something clearly changed along the way. I like her character and I like her influence on Stefan, but I have my reasons for not being her biggest fan. They will come to light over time. She does have a Mother Theresa complex. I wonder if, as a human, she was a nun or someone who had to care for sick people. It would make sense with her personality. Damon is too stubborn to have had Lexi guide him. He may have seemed stable, and he was aware that Katherine was trapped in the tomb. He knew he had to rescue her, meaning he was going to have to survive for the next 145 years. Stefan was putting them both at risk with his behaviour and wasn't listening to Damon. When Lexi discovered Stefan, Damon knew she would be a better influence on his brother than he could be as he had to learn how to deal with being a vampire at the same time. Damon could barely take care of himself, how was he supposed to take care of an out of control vampire? Damon being there was just a reminder to Stefan that he had forced his brother to turn against his will and was feeling extremely guilty. Damon knew that if he left, it would be easier for Stefan to recover. Elena had to do something, otherwise Elijah would kill her family. She needed to call his bluff. Stabbing herself may have seemed a bit much, but I'm sure Stefan and Damon made sure she knew exactly where to stab herself so she didn't kill herself before Stefan could heal her. This stage of the season isn't my favourite, but it picks up soon. Great reaction. I'm looking forward to watching the next one with you. Take care. Stay safe. Stay healthy. x
Mandzipop
2020-10-26 03:15:09 +0000 UTCThat's what I was hoping. That this community will provide such a space and seeing that happening is an absolute delight. Thank you guys 💞
safae mokadem
2020-10-25 18:21:58 +0000 UTC💗
Patpet
2020-10-25 18:04:46 +0000 UTCNostalgicgirl " I love characters on other shows but I'm not as attached as I am with these two idiots LOL" Amen 😂🙌
Patpet
2020-10-25 18:01:14 +0000 UTCI am also very happy that there is a place where we can share your thoughts and find out someone else's opinion. These discussions are very exciting and allow you to look at the situation from different points of view. I sincerely hope I didn't seem rude in expressing my opinion. Still, the language barrier does not always allow me to choose the right words. I love and respect everyone, and I don't want to offend anyone. Sofie, thank you for bringing us all here..
Mariya
2020-10-25 17:44:16 +0000 UTC@Patpet this is exactly how I feel about this situation.👏
Mariya
2020-10-25 17:37:42 +0000 UTCI just want to say that I love this chat. Its always great when people in a fandom can come together and express their opinions without judgment and hate. It's a special thing. Just want everyone to know that even though I may disagree with you at times I absolutely respect your opinions and really enjoy reading other peoples points of view. I learn so much! <3
nostalgicgirl
2020-10-25 17:03:08 +0000 UTC"at least the guy knows how to clean after himself" It's true.🤣🤣👍 That's not exactly what I wanted to say, though. As far as I know, Damon didn't kill those girls. I was talking about killing, not eating. With Jessica, the girl on the road is also a controversial situation. He said he can't be what others and SHE want him to be. It was proof to everyone, and especially to himself, that he was what he was. I didn't see the pleasure of what he was doing in that scene. But I think you're right, Damon has killed for fun at least once anyway. However, I can't remember an example from the show yet. But I admit the possibility.
Mariya
2020-10-25 16:56:23 +0000 UTCYou took the words out of my mouth, I hate that so much!
Patpet
2020-10-25 16:41:57 +0000 UTC@Mandzipop 😂😂😂
Patpet
2020-10-25 16:36:28 +0000 UTC@Mandzipop Yeah that's a very good point. I might need to rewatch the first season since I have only seen it once so I'm sure you get to see many different things upon a second viewing lmao. But are they always calculated? The comment just made it seem like Damon has never killed out of pure pleasure or just because he wants to and I don't think that's true. Like remember after he found out Katherine was not inside the tomb he was feeding off a bunch of sorority girls? Or when he killed that girl after Rose died? They were not for a purpose, Damon was grieving or going through an existential crisis. His reasons were more personal. Idk, maybe what @Mariya was trying to say is that Damon is a lot more careful when he kills and Stefan is just a sloppy mess? I mean, at least the guy knows how to clean after himself 😂
nostalgicgirl
2020-10-25 16:27:23 +0000 UTCI will voice my toughs about Damon killing Lexi when they will not be a spoiler anymore. I believe there is much more to it. Oh Defan forever and above anything else.
Patpet
2020-10-25 16:26:58 +0000 UTC@Patpet I would love to give you more like than one for that comment. My advice is there are hardly any characters in this show who completely live up to the expectations set in S1, especially at the beginning. i can think of 2 off the top of my head, and neither of them bear the name Gilbert or Salvatore.
Mandzipop
2020-10-25 16:23:50 +0000 UTCSofie I absolutely get the guilt, the shame and his self loathing, his straggle to come to term with his dark past that is the side of him I love because he is very human in that respect and relatable. My problem with Stefan is not in the fact that he is good or bad, it is the fact that he says things that makes him look a bit shady, like "When have I ever wanted to hurt anybody?" 😳Stefan dear, please zip it. I can fill a page on things that he could have just avoid saying. Those sentences the writers put them there for a reason, for us to pick up on it and get the red flag flapping away and acknowledge this side of him, difficult to acknowledge because Stefan has been build up to be adorable and reliable. The reason for this is that Stefan was the favorite of many, father included, and he had a bit of superiority complex, that after he became vampire doesn't reconcile with his dark side. So in order to be ”perfectly adorable Stefan” again he plays a part, that involves necessarily lying, to himself included but what is bad about it, involves putting his brother down, because who puts people close to them down, usually does it to build themselves up, to their loved one expenses. Damon never mentioned anything to anybody about Stefan's past, especially to Elena, even with his humanity dimmed, not even pissed off at him as he was, he would never dream to do that to his brother. On the contrary Stefan portrayed Damon as a monster to Elena for all season one, and keeps doing it in front of Elena, very ungraciously, especially if you are in no position to raise yourself as moral compass. That is my problem with Stefan. For the rest I love those two characters to bits.
Patpet
2020-10-25 16:18:53 +0000 UTCWith the humanity switch thing I agree, it doesnt absolve them of responsibility but its still a factor. Especially when it comes to understanding characters, they might do things they wouldnt have done otherwise. As to the difference between Stefan and Damon: I believe that Stefan has high selfestem and just denies things he doesnt like about himself, like his past, while Damon has no self-confidence, sees himself as bad and expects to be treated as the bad guy from anyone else. So he comes of as more accepting of his flaws cause he is never denying or hiding them but I think that he dislikes his flaws way more than Stefan dislikes his. But thats just how I see it.
Alice
2020-10-25 16:17:12 +0000 UTC@nostalgicgirl Damon's S1 kills were very calculated. He wanted Stefan to leave Mystic Falls so he could get Katherine out of the tomb without the interference of Stefan. He also wanted Katherine all to himself, and having Stefan around would probably make her want them both again. He wanted to be Katherine's hero and saviour, not Stefan. It is inferred in the pilot when he and Stefan have the conversation in Stefan's bedroom. Stefan accused Damon of being sloppy and Damon said it could be a problem for Stefan.
Mandzipop
2020-10-25 15:51:12 +0000 UTCExactlyyy forget all ships only Defan 😛😍 it’s so good to discuss stuff with all u guys here 🥰
Andrea Dcosta
2020-10-25 14:43:18 +0000 UTC@PatPet That is all true, but those were writing choices to move the story forward. To me Damon's motivations to kill Lexi were very calculating and straightforward. The council were looking for a vampire and he provided them one. And at this point in the story he wasn't happy with Stefan, not to mention Lexi threatened him earlier that day. So if I put myself on Damon's shoes then it makes complete sense to fix all his problems in one sweep. Still hate it though. And I think that is whats great about this show, is that if you really try and put yourself in the mental state of each character then you can understand their motivations. Hey I even understand John's reasoning. This is a man who was raised to believe vampires are evil and suddenly his daughter is caught between two of them and in danger of being used for some sacrifice? We hate John because we love Damon, but from his side of the story these creatures only bring death and misery and giving the dagger to Damon was like killing two birds with one stone. @Andrea Costa I think some people don't even try tbh. The same with Stefan. I feel like some people just have a favorite brother and refuse to understand the other like that is going to betray their alliance or something? idk I find it silly when people need to take sides. Why team Damon or team Stefan? Why not team Defan?
nostalgicgirl
2020-10-25 14:22:07 +0000 UTCPatpet, as I said to nostalgic girl my take on this whole Stefan lying about his past and only saying the truth when he's forced to. For me, the reason why Stefan is not open with Elena about his past is that this is something he's so ashamed of that he prefer to burry. I don't think it's because he wants to always look good in front of Elena or others. He just want to deny this part of himself so to not remember that much shame and guilt. he buried this side of him for himself so coping as human will be easier for him. I do agree that Stefan is presenting himself to be good and that Damon never lied about himself and he always make it clear that he's not good but that mostly because Damon is not ashamed of himself. he's not ashamed to be bad. but Stefan does. He did tell Elena the truth about himself yeah because he had to at this point but I do understand why he won't just bring up his past to Elena while he worked so hard to forget it in order to live. And being bad in the past won't change the fact that he's good now.
safae mokadem
2020-10-25 14:04:41 +0000 UTCOh girl I got goosebumps. you're totally right the scenes with Stefan totally gave signs of depression now I'm connecting with him in another spiritual level.
safae mokadem
2020-10-25 13:59:34 +0000 UTCI so agree with you nostalgicgirl. The reason why Stefan is not open with Elena about his past is that this is something he's so ashamed of that he prefer to burry. I don't think it's because he wants to always look good in front of Elena or others. He just want to deny this part of himself so to not remember that much shame and guilt. he buried this side of him for himself so coping as human will be easier for him. I do agree that Stefan is presenting himself to be good and that Damon never lied about himself and he always make it clear that he's not good but that mostly because Damon is not ashamed of himself. he's not ashamed to be bad. but Stefan does. He did tell Elena the truth about himself yeah because he had to at this point but I do understand why he won't just bring up his past to Elena while he worked so hard to forget it in order to live. and being bad in the past won't change the fact that he's good now.
safae mokadem
2020-10-25 13:54:50 +0000 UTCI agree with u Patpet some ppl just see things as black and white like Damon is bad I can see him doing bad it seems like he feels no remorse so he’s the bad brother like come on what are you thinking 😁 that’s the reason I love Sofie’s reactions so much she understands both the brothers characters so well without comparing or putting one in good light while other in the bad light. She enjoys characters which after all we should ya.Some ppl honestly I fell can never understand Damon’s character and always blame him for everythinggg he does that’s lame.
Andrea Dcosta
2020-10-25 13:28:27 +0000 UTCVery rightly said Elena and Damon are quite similar. They both have survivors guilt as well. Damon from the war days when his father prefered Stefan over him. The thing u said that Stefan suffers to deal with his vampire self the same way Damon struggles with his human self. Such an amazing thing to notice.
Andrea Dcosta
2020-10-25 13:15:46 +0000 UTCnostalgicgirl the killing of Lexi is not as simple as it seams, as everything else in this show. And since she was a big part on supporting Stefan to overcome his problem, from a writing point of view, her not being around anymore to help Stefan, force him to deal with his problems full front as his brother did. He is taking blood in small doses, drinking vervain, he is doing what he should have done long ago. Also it gives the two brothers the opportunity to learn to be reliant to each other, instead of outsourcing reliance outside their relationship. That is in my opinion on the writers aim in regard of Lexi death. Damon's motivations again are not as plain as they seam to be, they lack of psychological weight. I have a theory about it as well but it's not a subject we can talk about at this point.
Patpet
2020-10-25 12:47:52 +0000 UTCRegarding Caroline she basically still don’t have any experience as such of a vampire she has many many more years and decades to go. She doesn’t know the vampire switch feel or anything regards to it. Yes she’s better in controlling it but basically she has no first hand experience of what Stefan/ Damon went through.
Andrea Dcosta
2020-10-25 12:43:58 +0000 UTCThank you @Patpet. I'm so agree with you.
Mariya
2020-10-25 12:28:27 +0000 UTCI feel this shouldn't be a blaming game of who is worse, because it would flatten the layers that the writers intent to give to both characters. We start with a very black and white notions of who is bad and who is good among the brothers but going further into the show that notion dims in very grey interesting areas, that get us confused, empathetic, shock us,and all the emotions in between, giving Stefan and Damon compelling humans qualities and faults and the reasons for every each one of it. I understand, though the frustration for people that watched the entire show, watching it again, season one specially, it feels like screaming in frustration for how Damon and Stefan are presented, it hurts🤐😂. But that is the reason why we love these character so much, how the story is developed reveling the truth about their life and their relationship and how the characters evolve, it is beautiful and very poetic.
Patpet
2020-10-25 12:07:06 +0000 UTCI do agree that Stefan has more of a bloodlust and when he is a ripper he kills more and without any other reason other than to satisfy that bloodlust. He enjoys toying with them and making a spectacle out of it. I'm sorry but if that was really his goal then it was pretty dumb because all he did was make the council aware of vampires, lol. But I get what you mean that because he knew Stefan was back in Mystic Falls that he wanted to put him on edge. He didn't want to make it easy for Stefan to start over and just didn't really care about the consequences. Damon may have a goal in mind when he kills a lot of the time but we can't really say that he has never killed just for the fun of it. I cant say more because spoilers. But yes, I know that it doesn't compare to what Stefan is capable of doing when he goes to that dark place. The whole Lexi thing. How do you know she was going to actually kill Liz? She could have attacked her but I don't think she would have killed her. I think the fact that she didn't want to kill them and was trying to get out of this situation without killing anyone is what made it possible for Damon to stab her in the first place. The whole thing with Damon killing Lexi is that it didn't have to happen and Damon did it to clean up a mess that he started in the first place. He started killing people, he turned Vicky and so he needed a vampire to pin that to and he chose Lexi. Why? Because at the time he wanted to make Stefan suffer and so he decided to kill two birds with one stone. And he killed Stefan's best friend on his birthday. That's savage. I don't hold that against him because I know that he wasn't being himself then but that doesn't make me forget what he did. And yes, Stefan killed his father. After the man came at him with a wooden stake and Stefan pushed him away not realizing his own strength which resulted in Giuseppe getting stabbed. And Stefan being in transition and desperate for blood he drank for him. And Vicky was actually about to kill Elena so killing her was really the best option, especially since Stefan knows an out of control vampire when he sees one. There was no way Vicky could've been helped. You cant compare those deaths with Lexi because Lexi's murder wasn't an accident and it wasn't necessary. It's not that Lexi's life is above other people, is the context surrounding her death that is different. So yeah, I blame Damon for Lexi and I'm pretty sure deep down he blames himself too. I can think of a better parallel but again ... spoilers. The point is that both brothers have the potential to do bad things and good things and I 100 per cent agree that you cant condemn one for being a murderer while absolving the other. About people making Damon look like a monster, there is a saying that goes "You made your bed now lie in it." I think this is because Damon has done monstrous things to everyone and so they automatically have that reaction toward him. The reason no one thinks Stefan as a monster is because they have not have a first hand experience with him being a monster. It's not the same to read about it than to actually experience it and not only that but become a victim to it.
nostalgicgirl
2020-10-25 11:55:41 +0000 UTCLol, never noticed the cloth thing. Nice catch. And I like how you point out that Elena is not hurting the brothers liks Katherine did, she is helping them both.
Miriam
2020-10-25 11:45:33 +0000 UTC* I believe that flashback-Damon was from after he knew that Katherine was alive, so he went all in on surviving the comet's return journey and rescuing Katherine. He sacrificed everything, including Stefan, for Katherine. * I liked how Damon brought Katherine clothes, but then she showed up with no clothes. She really does do the opposite of what Damon wants/hopes/thinks. * The brother comparisons; Instead of figuring out who is worse, I like to think about them as Stefan having issues with his vampire side and Damon having issues with his human side and how Elena is helping them both become better: Letting Stefan drink her blood and giving Damon an existential crisis by, I guess, using their connection ("You and I.. we have an understanding") that started back in season 1. * I think this episode showed some of the similarities between Elena and Damon. They are both are very stubborn on doing things their way and they both have crazy plans.
Ari
2020-10-25 11:04:42 +0000 UTCBy the way we are having a very interesting discussion on the Humanity off thing on another platform, to which upshot I completely agree. It is their free choice to switch their humanity off, to dim, pain, guilt, etc. By doing that, they choose not to feel at all or to certain extent, to make their life easier and despair free. But making themselves unfeeling towards emotions and consequences, can create dangerous situations to humans and to the people around them. They know that. So because that is a free will choice, it doesn't absolve them at all from what they might do during their "humanity off" period. That make sense to me.
Patpet
2020-10-25 10:49:36 +0000 UTCI don't know why, I couldn't post this comment in nostalgicgirl's response, so I'll post it in here. At the beginning of the first season, Damon wanted to inconvenience Stefan, and he wanted to be feared. I consider this a kind of goal. He did it on display in front of Stefan, showing that he could do it. "Anyone, anytime, anyplace." Killing Vicki's friends, and what Damon did to Vicki was a consequence of what Stefan did. It was revenge. In this way, he showed that nothing could stop him. I'm not saying that he never killed for no reason. But I'm sure Damon didn't even come close to doing it that massively. He learned a lot from Katherine. He himself said in the flashback that they should be smarter and more circumspect, like Katherine was. Note that when the need to frighten disappeared, Damon stopped killing people and even eats mostly from a blood bag. Stefan didn't care. He just killed without a purpose, without a reason. Everyone else blames Damon for killing Lexi. But no one remembers that Stefan killed his father. It didn't matter if they loved him. It was their father, their family. Stefan also killed Vicki, Amber and many innocent people in the war. Why is Lexi's life put above other people's? Those people were also someone's relatives, husbands, friends, etc. But no one thinks he's a monster like Damon. In addition, Lexi herself was ready to kill Sheriff Liz and her employees, who are also innocent people. But Stefan and the others persist in making Damon look like a monster. Who, by the way, quite calmly admits to his beloved girlfriend about who he is, without exposing himself as a hero. Although, Damon is well aware of Stefan's past, and that he may have killed even more people than he did.
Mariya
2020-10-25 10:43:18 +0000 UTCSo true. I think this is why Stefan is my favorite because I relate to him so much. As someone who suffers from depression and anxiety I understand a lot of his feelings and his actions. The writers really do a good job with both brothers and make us feel so much for them. Its a special thing because it doesnt happen often. Like I love characters on other shows but I'm not as attached as I am with these two idiots LOL
nostalgicgirl
2020-10-25 10:12:31 +0000 UTCI love the two brothers characters, so much and they are so incredibly written that even if they are figment of imagination, what they feel and what they had to face in their story is so relatable, for so many reasons. For most of us experiencing some hard times at some point in life, their struggle, mirror ours because the psychological descriptions of issues and the consequent reactions are very real. As I said many time, the writers never stop to amaze me, for they have to have a personal deep understanding of humans psychology. Thank you for sharing.💗
Patpet
2020-10-25 10:06:15 +0000 UTCme again, sorry I just have many thoughts. I just want to point out that I'm not on board when the show makes comparisons between the brothers. I understand that Damon is an obvious reference to use but I don't like the whole "You were Damon" comment and then Stefan adding "I was worse." They make it seem like Damon is the standard of a bad vampire and Stefan is the standard of a good vampire and its really unfair to them both.
nostalgicgirl
2020-10-25 10:00:06 +0000 UTCI so agree with you, but with the partial information I had when I saw this episode that is what I though. That is the beauty of this show, that you might start with an opinion about something and 20 episodes or 3 seasons after you opinion about something is totally reversed. In regard of Damon killing Lexi, he felt he had to take the sheriff off their back and gain trust to be able to infiltrate the council, giving to the Salvatore family the position they lost when Stefan killed Jonathan Gilbert that came back to life thanks to his ring to tell the story of how Stefan killed him. That is why the Salvatore family was shamed and they never got invited to the founders’ parties again. So that is the main reasons Damon killed Lexi, but in my opinion there is more, I have a personal opining about it, I cannot say at this stage. The problem is that in his accounts Stefan is always very reluctant to give information about himself that makes him look bad, unless he is forced to spill be beans, like in this occasion and even then, his account to Elena is little short of honesty: “ WE were angry to the founders family for what they did to Katherine, WE wanted revenge”, but then we see only Stefan going on a killer spree and Damon been shocked to the news that most of them are dead or about to be dead and wanting nothing to do with it by leaving town. Stefan has many qualities but honesty is not his strong suit and he is in no higher moral position to be judgmental about Damon’s actions, as he was on most of season one, depict him to Elena as monster, when he was clearly much worse . He has a long way to go too. Damon is taking it because he is as guilty as charge, with extenuating circumstances that are not as plain and straightforward as they seam to be.
Patpet
2020-10-25 09:28:38 +0000 UTCI'm going to copy/paste something I wrote on my channel cause I'm lazy. While I was rewatching this I started seeing a parallel between Stefan and someone who suffers from really bad depression. This can be triggering so if you're sensitive you to the subject might want to ignore. The way Stefan is trying so desperately to keep Damon from leaving because he doesn't want to face eternity alone broke me. But the scene where he takes Lexi back to his place and you see all the bodies there and the place is just a mess. Now I've suffered from depression in the past and this just reminds me of the times where you feel so empty and detached that you don't bother to clean, to shower, to do anything. Your house and your appearance start to reflect just how messy and chaotic you feel on the inside. Stefan brings her home and then says "I mean to clean this up" like its not a problem - relatable. You don't see how bad it has gotten because you are not experiencing reality the same way. His face when Lexi tells him that he is a ripper and that he is all the parts of a bad vampire says it all. There is so much confusion in his face because to him this has become the norm. Just needed to share this.
nostalgicgirl
2020-10-25 09:18:40 +0000 UTCI agree, Stefan should've had a talk with Elena and warn her about who he really was because this is a part of him that is not going to go away. It is something that he controls. So it would be up to her to choose whether she wants to be with him and the fact that he has this bloodlust inside him or not. She got to see some of that in season 1 but she doesnt know the extent of it. However, I understand why Stefan didn't say anything. After all, this is his greatest shame and it is not easy to tell the woman you love that you have this darkness in your past. A lot of the problem comes from the fact that Elena ( and most people ) puts Stefan on a pedestal and Stefan doesn't want for anyone to start seeing him as a monster. I dont think Damon's kills are all calculated though. He killed two couples in the first season, and did what he did to Vicky just because ... He is still a vampire and has the same predatory nature and thus kills because he enjoys the hunt. They all have it, just some are better at controlling it ( like Caroline ) while others dont see the point in trying because it is their nature and they embrace it. The reason Damon gets to be more open about how bad he is is because he is not ashamed of it ( and why would he be, honestly? he's a vampire. ) He understands that this is what a vampire is supposed to be. Stefan is haunted by his past, paralyzed by the guilt of what he has done. But he should know better than to pretend that side of him doesn't exist. But to his credit he did tell her. True that the circumstances weren't ideal but he could've just lied or ask her not to read more into it ... whatever. Maybe he just needed a little push. What I find interesting how he used his own story to make Elena see that she needs to fight and not just give up. Could be considered a type of manipulation even if he meant well. Like sure Stefan, turn your dark scary past into a positive LOL
nostalgicgirl
2020-10-25 08:48:36 +0000 UTCI loved what u said about the brothers it’s so true actually there’s no particular good or bad brother according to me. Both of them have their past it’s just that Damon is very vocal about most of it and he says that he’s bad although most of the time he does something out of a purpose. But still their actions can’t be justified both of them. Defan is the best ship 😍
Andrea Dcosta
2020-10-25 06:30:48 +0000 UTCDamon came to the lake house so quickly because he already knew where Stefan and Elena were. And Elijah for that needed to first visit his CCTV camera, i.e. Dr. Martin. And only then did he go in search of Elena. Damon had a small head start.
Mariya
2020-10-25 06:25:54 +0000 UTCDamon's face when he saw Katherine in the shower is indescribable. He was so happy when he thought he had beaten her in the crypt. And what a disappointment and bewilderment he found at home after dinner. Interestingly, Damon brought Katherine "food" and dresses to the tomb. He knows exactly what a woman needs.😂
Mariya
2020-10-25 06:24:09 +0000 UTCStefan is the Ripper… The term has finally surfaced. I love how this show emphasizes that there are no true good and true bad. Both Stefan and Damon have their own past, their own secrets. Something that can make them look both good and bad. The only thing I don't like is that Stefan only told Elena about his past under the pressure of circumstances. So if she hadn't read this diary, then he would have kept silent, blaming Damon for everything? Damon never tried to show his best side. On the contrary, he always openly said that he was "bad," even when he wasn't. I hope not. That he just needed more time. By the way, Paul once again proved his acting talent. Stefan the Ripper in his performance is something. It's really scary, and even a little disgusting. He was really worse than Damon at that time. Stefan was driven only by bloodlust and murder. Damon, on the other hand, did everything with calculation, every murder was justified by some purpose. I'm not even sure what's worse, though. And I'm very glad that lexi, his lifeline, got in Stefan's way. We can all make mistakes and deviate from the right path. The main thing is to find the strength to admit it and try to fix it. Elijah was "killed" after all, though not on the first attempt. Couldn't Elena have read all about this dagger at once? She read one sentence at a time, and Stefan called Alaric and Damon after each sentence she read.😂 This made the process a bit more complicated. But what luck that Elena even started reading this diary. Otherwise, Damon would be a gray mummy in a coffin right now. Or a pile of ash. Sofie, I was really happy to see your reaction. I look forward to continuing.🤩
Mariya
2020-10-25 06:23:24 +0000 UTCAnother amazing episode one of my favourites. I just love the Delaric scenes. I loved looking at your expression when Alaric tells Damon that I’m your friend and you don’t have any friends that was so sweet of Alaric. Looking at their friendship grow makes me soo happy. Lexi Lexi Lexi I love her sooo much she always brings a huge smile to my face she’s just perfect. That line she says there when you’re a vampire u hate immensely but when you love.... and the look on her face 😍 I feel Damon at that moment when Stefan reminded him about lexi was very ashamed and he felt guilty so he just couldn’t say anything his eyes said it all. But yes I agree he could have apologised at that time but it would seem odd Damon suddenly apologising for this. I know watching Stefan like this is surprising when I watched this the first time I was shocked. Stefan being a ripper as lexi said u will know about this more later. Elijah is really so classy I love him. But killing him twice in a episode was kind of wierd. I hated John in this episode but Jenna should know the truth it’s very unsafe for her to not know right now and Elena should tell her instead of keeping her in the dark. Next one u will love the episode specially a particular scene it’s my favourite can’t wait for you to get to it!!
Andrea Dcosta
2020-10-25 06:11:04 +0000 UTCInteristing, I agree with a lot but Damon apologizing would have felt really off for me. There are things you cant apologize for and killing your brothers best friend falls into that category if you ask me. It also has to be said that Damon had his humanity of, a state that is lets say "an extraordinary circumstance". Plus as always Damons face says so much more than words. Stefan shames him and Damon takes it, doesnt say anything and just looks guilty clearly accepting the blame.
Miriam
2020-10-25 05:23:16 +0000 UTCElena is freaking brave and she is the boss now. The way they played Elijah was very smart. So Elijah is out of the way, but being an original he cannot die permanently but only temporarily. They just have to keep the dagger in place. Katherine as usual plays everybody like a violin, she is out and why she didn’t run if Klaus is coming? Do we believe she wants to help? And of course, she proclaims undying love for Stefan but of all the rooms, she is taking the shower in Damon’s room knowing he will see her naked... The sound track as usual so perfect! And Damon's face is priceless 😂 John tried to have Damon killed for the second time, he so needs the ring. I feel very sorry for Alaric and Jenna, but they just should tell her about the crazy world she is leaving in, she has no idea and the secrets keep piling up. If Tyler’s story tells us something, lies and secrets always come up at the wrong time and from the wrong mouth. Stefan is a ripper....I guess the name is taken from Jack the Ripper, the serial killer. Now we are getting some layer to Stefan’s story too. Unsurprisingly he never volunteers to tell to Elena stories about himself that don’t depict him as good as he presents himself, only when he is forced by circumstance then he opens up. And yes he was very scary, it’s another great Paul thing, his ripper Stefan is as scary as scary can be, Paul is an amazing actor. He can pull beautiful crying face, gorgeous vampire face, threatening face and super scary face like nobody. As usual your deduction are so on point, Lexi did play a big part in helping Stefan to become who he is now. Also you saw a glimpse of Damon after a week he was tuned that was still himself as he was as human not jet transformed by a life time of having to adapt to his new condition alone. Stefan had Lexi, Damon had only himself. I agree that scene was a miss occasion for Damon to apologize to his brother about killing Lexi. That was what I tough too, at this point. Sofie you amaze me with your deductions, you clever girl!
Patpet
2020-10-25 04:58:58 +0000 UTCAndy isn't a new Caroline type character. The set up is different. She's in on what's going on and it feels like they have an actual affinity towards each other.
Futuristic Girl
2020-10-25 04:40:18 +0000 UTCKatherine is soo smart!!! Finesse queen!!
Futuristic Girl
2020-10-25 04:35:41 +0000 UTCI love how they went back and forth with finding out new info about the dagger and when Damon and Alaric were whisper arguing. Damon was so done!!!
Futuristic Girl
2020-10-25 04:35:22 +0000 UTCRipper Stefan mention!!!!! Can't wait til you see more flashbacks.
Futuristic Girl
2020-10-25 04:34:43 +0000 UTCLove this episode. Your face when you saw the flashback, girl we werent lying when we said Stefan wasnt all good and Damon wasnt all bad 😂😂😂. Love Lexi though probably not as much as most people who watch the show (dont @ me I just know if someone talked that way around me irl it would be to much for me). Theres a reason I could never stand John and this episode just shows again why hes thoroughly unlikable. Next episode has one of the only scenes in the entire show where I conciously noticed the music, it was so pitch perfect (though the music is always great).
Miriam
2020-10-25 04:06:22 +0000 UTC
