MalloryBrosPodcast Ep. 74 - "Hated In The Nation"

Sorry Terrance, but at MJ and Chris Brown concerts there are people that pass out all the time and they have ambulances on standby for the beginning of the shows as soon as they come out. If Chris stopped the show at the beginning it would literally be “🎵She want that lovey dovey lovey dov-🎶… sorry guys we gotta end the show”😂 but y’all did break down the level of responsibility that Travis has down real good so I could understand. #Whole9️⃣🤘🏽

Ray Shepherd

ah yes. because travis scott could definitely see who was being trampled in a sea of 50,000 people even tho the people getting trampled were all pretty much in the middle and back of the crowd. that definitely makes sense.

Carnell Music

Terrance is a million percent right on the Travis debate. nobody saying that he don’t got his share in what went wrong, but the fans who was acting a damn fool should be blamed a lot too. like y’all kept pointing it out, he been doing this shit for 3 years and nothing like this has happen. the same culture that terrell is trying to say Travis started, was happening years prior as well. so why this time did something like this happen? travis ain’t tell them to go extra crazy this time. THEY DID THAT ON THEIR OWN

Cam Dancy

Yo I’m 27 this friday on the 19th I would love a shoutout 🙏🏾

Go ahead and put some respect on my phins

Skylar McCoy

Man we need that reaction to Summer Walker's joint!

I think Travis couldn't take accountability in the "apology" video cause it could be used against him in court.

People also died from taking fake pills and getting laced with fentanyl. I went to the first 2 Astroworld's and the crowd does not give af about anybody. It's an every man for themselves type of situation and people take pride on hurting people. It's fucked up overall. RIP to the 9 lives lost.

DreUPlay_ 2Much

Where’s the Still Over It reaction???

I love Travis, he is responsible for the culture at his concerts tho. He encourages dangerous behavior & people get hurt all the time at his concerts. The signs were there. This time people died & his concert culture is to blame for that. Now, I personally feel that artists shouldn’t be responsible for how big venues are, the staffing, security, etc. That part is not on Travis at all.

Wess

Not saying it’s right, but Travis isn’t going to own it on a public platform because this becomes a legal issue. When there’s 1,000 lawsuits at your door your lawyer is going to tell you not to take ownership of what happened. That would look terrible in court and he would lose millions and millions of dollars. Again it isn’t right but the game is the game

Antonio Osborne

You should do birth years for each episode. Episode 75 = celebrity born in 1975

silk sonic and summer walker please

luna

As a Florida native, I have NEVA heard of pam on fruit flies lol

We got a bye week but y’all didn’t mention how my giants beat the raiders ass last week ( at least not yet) im still listening

chriswavy

Thank you Terrance the only one I’ve heard actually holding people accountable themselves

Damn niggas typing essays in this mf 👀

chriswavy

9ERS WE HERE LETS FUCKING GO!

chriswavy

I’ll say this… Everyone is to blame for the deaths from Travis, police, security, the fans. What I don’t like though is how people are saying the culture cause it. Travis Scott didn’t invent or create that wild, rowdy, raging energy. People did that before Travis was Travis and people will do that after him. There’s nothing new under the sun. However, people are incentivize to act that way because of who Travis is; they know that’s how he moves that’s how Travis gets down so that’s what they expect even to the point of someone getting hurt or worse. On the flip, Terrell is right with the ownership, that’s the trump card. If it was my concert and I see someone needs help or a fan is trying to get my attention because someone needs help; I’m stopping the concert. Idc if it takes 45 mins to get that person some help, I’ll give you your 45 mins back. There’s fun and getting rowdy then there’s acting like animals, what we can’t do is act like animals. Hell, even animals would have more respect 💯

VonTheWitty1

niggas always act like they off camera when their intro song play 💀

sey lezz J

Terrance analogies stink

Devin

Travis definitely is more responsible being that he had a better view of what was going on. Opposed to the “tramplers” who were literally fighting for there lives; it’s not like they could make room in order to not trample.

Deijalalala

i live in houston and it was ppl at astroworld that were pricking ppl in the neck and drugging them. which travis can’t control. and doesn’t have anything to do w/ rage culture

Kenneth Suber

terrance is right about the travis situation imo, i just hate how the whole situation being focused on what travy did and didn’t do instead of just recognizing precious lives were lost brah, rell saying travis don’t deserve any sympathy is just wrong too, imagine how that man feels rn

Jaypiy

another great podcast! the 9ers will only go up from here on YT! love yall fr

p4nda_23

I’m literally having the worse day bro, thank y’all for putting a smile on my face & making my day a little bit better before this mf ends🙏🏾

Ynfeli

Actually being there felt like a nightmare. The amount of people who didn’t care and said “it’s a travis scott show it happens” when I told them there was dead lady ten feet away from them is what sticks with me the most when I think of who takes on the blame. The culture that Travis created led to that mindset, so he does have blame but the fans also take on some of that. When I finally got out of the giant pit of people, I ended up next to one of the medic stations, and I watched as police officers struggled for almost 20 minutes to part a small section of the crowd in order to reach victims. This was when Drake came out, so people were too busy turning up to give af about who they were trying to save. When they were bringing back bodies to the medic station I remember seeing a man who was later confirmed dead on the news. He had been unconscious for 30 minutes before he received any help. That should NEVER happen, but people I talked to said that because it was Astroworld, it’s normal. Travis, the wild ass fans, the event coordinators, etc all take on blame for the tragedy. The whole situation is devastating.

Gerald Musyimi

Lol can y’all please react to Wunna

Habibi

Ayyyye giving my nigga Rum Nitty some love lol

Chulo

Terrance is super right. I don’t see how Terrell don’t understand. No such thing as crowd control for 50,000+ people

Sam

I knew I wasn’t tripping when I heard that 😂😂

Saints Nation

"stand in front of your shit." period. RIP to all those who lost their lives at the festival. Praying that the 9-year-old kid in the coma pulls through!

leah jador.

Y’all had a great point talking about the ambulances. Ppl passing out isn’t uncommon but an ambulance deadass in the crowd ain’t a normal thing

RE1GN

Just wanted to add a lot of people got trampled and lost their breath in piles of people because it was way too crowded during the crowd crush, meaning they have no control over if they fall, or if they end up under piles of people from the crowd pushing. So crowded that people were levitating off the ground not stepping on anything , being held up by other people. That’s way too much pressure on the body. Then People from the back keep swarming in while the front realizes they are in trouble and starts pushing back causing havoc for everyone. You are literally focused on survival already in panick mode and full on fear knowing that if you fall you’re dead because it would be nearly impossible to get you up. You fall with the group. You are a group, one big ocean of people. To the point where you can’t even help a person under you if you tried. There was a video I saw of layers of people who fell on eachother and the dude says “there is someone under you GET up” and he relies “I CANT” as you can see the dude under just fading away. No oxygen, no where to step to even open a pit to get everyone up, instead you get a beat drop and everyone goes crazy and now you might land on them and be a victim. There is no control when the crowd is jam packed ESPECIALLY to this extent of 50,000, ONE STAGE unlike Rolling loud where there is multiple stages, and PEOPLE breaking in. , I had a scary experience at the Lil yachty set in NY. My friend who was with me there said he feared for his life at Yachty 10/10. Sadly he went to astroworld also and experienced horror levels that words can’t describe and on the scale is a 20/10 and is still traumatized. So now to add the 9 year old into this, my no means should there be a 9 year old at this crowd, but his poor dad passed out and his son fell in, now from the outside lookin in you would say “wow nobody helped the 9 year old” but in a Situation where you can’t even help yourself and you are forced to step on anything in your way to not fall. I can’t describe it. It’s awful. It’s a nightmare, and Prayers for the victims. People are at fault. Nobody in specific . But people. People killed people at this concert , whether Travis eats up some blame and accountability , or the team behind him as well as the culture and the lack of thought going into what no one thought could be this much of a disaster

Kelvindagawd

wait he really did that b4? (talking bout the dead child shit)

Jayden Jones

I also recently went to a carti concert who I think has a worse type of mosh pit than Travis Scott and it was a lot more organized, he stopped the show 3 times to make sure mfs was good.

2fyejayy

Travis isn’t a fault but he is responsible for the “ragers” he literally said in a song “and it ain’t a mosh pit if ain’t no injuries” I went to rolling loud Miami and was front row in the pit and there was nothing but love in that pit I fell and mfs picked me back up, I lost my phone they stopped the pit and found it for me do this is definitely on him for the fact that it’s his event.

2fyejayy

nvr gonna happen sadly :(

RXL 90

I get Terell but he's missing the point of needing to recognize the role everyone played. Yes Travis is responsible for creating this culture, but people are grown. You mean to tell me they lack the ability to think on their own??? Because Travis excites you that much you can't be a decent human being and calm tf down when you're trampling on people? Nah there has to be conversation around fans following everything a celebrity says. Same with Trump. Yes we didn't fw trump but we didn't shift blame from his supporters who did fucked up shit and say, well if trump didn't create this culture to be racist and wild then they wouldn't have done it. People need to take accountability for their OWN actions even if it was omg I'm so into travis ill be apart of a situation that leads to deaths. People in the crowd saw they were stomping people to death and they didn't think to stop, but travis is supposed to see everything in the crowd? impossible, and I don't think he knew ppl were dying, ppl pass out and get carried out all the time and he probably thought it was that. ALSO y'all keep saying he could have stopped the show and he kept performing 30 min after the police announced how wild it was... you mean to tell me the police couldn't stop the show? Police authority could have easily shut the whole shit down especially since they knew for a fact what was going on. Travis is responsible for the type of energy that comes with his concerts but all of his fans who chose to be there know what kind of energy and vibe it is. That 9 yo boys dad didn't see the trailer? he didn't think hmmm this event isn't suitable for a 9yo. Those festivals are not regular concerts, and its sad that he lost his life but I wouldn't have my 9yo at a concert with 50,000 people especially seeing the trailer and knowing what kind of lyrics he has and what vibes he is on. Everybody pulling out videos from his old concerts but still chose to attend this year, why?

Jasmine Tychelle

Travis posted a child dead at his rodeo concert and said “he wasn’t a real rager” Travis has a history of being an asshole and advocating things like what happened that concert Travis deserves the blame he received Terrance because even then dude saw the ambulance truck and continued to perform and saw people pass and did little to nothing

That pulp fiction intro👌🏾 one of my favorite movies, i even got it cut in chronological order on google drive (not as good as the original but still)

Jawaun Reid

Terrance fanned out. He's responsible.

Poetic Locnest

Honestly we don’t know these celebrities AT ALL like to say Beyoncé would for sure handle things differently it came off as though you know her personally or sub consciously defending Travis people gotta know how to separate the art and the work from the actual person these people could be terrible human beings for all we know I’m not gonna say they are or they’re not but one things for sure the whole situation is suspect

Whole 9 we out here

Eddie McQuiller

I was at AstroWorld.. left the event and didn’t realize shit went left until me and my wife got back to the hotel. Picture this, I was seeing people struggle to get out of the crowd for the Don Toliver set 5 minutes in, that was at around 3 in the afternoon. People where already drinking and getting into extracurriculars. Now imagine this same crowd after another 6hrs of drinking, extracurriculars, the main event has started finally (the reason mfs flew from around and even outside the country). The energy was crazy and mind you me and mine was on the outskirts so I can only imagine what it was like closer to the stage. A combination of a slew of events led to this unfortunate event. The concept is dope but the execution was poor. Lack of paramedics, security, order at water stations, and even the lack of compassion and maturity by festival goers. Just my opinion

Alonzo Johnson

First good take ive seen regarding his apology

I’m completely with Terrell in regards to the Travis situation

Jayden Jones

I know y’all don’t watch soccer but there was an incident a few weeks ago, when a fan collapsed and they basically stopped the entire game until the fan in the stands was taking care of sent to the hospital safely.

Saints Nation

Oh nooo they said 23+4 = 29 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️😂 but we gone let that slide

J money

What about the video where it’s shows people literally getting on the stage tellin the camera man to stop the show but he pretty much tells them to move around and continues recording

Noah Bailey

I hate continuing to comment but Vanessa did have a lawsuit with the helicopter company for not having a specific kit in there. And we’re not going to act like everyone wasn’t making speculation about how things went down and who was to blame for the tragic accident

Chichi Okoronkwo

I also think Terrance should watch the Travis documentary or some of the videos that surfaced from his past concerts… Some kid is paralyzed because Travis told him if he jumps from the nose bleeds or from however high up, they’d catch him. Travis has been arrested for inciting shit like that. Yes, the fans need to take accountability for being reckless but Travis HAS to stop influencing these kids to act out this way because they don’t know any better

Chichi Okoronkwo

In regards to the mosh pit culture. A lot of fans were critical of how Travis’s fans go about most pit etiquette… Idk if it’s because they’re so young or they just don’t care for anyones wellbeing but from what I’ve heard and the videos I’ve seen as evidence, mosh pits are pretty responsible in terms of helping people who have fallen, passed out, those who don’t want to be in the pit anymore, etc. I just think it’s the new generation of “ragers” that are dysfunctional 🤷🏾‍♀️

Chichi Okoronkwo

Travis does have to take accountability for this event, but regardless of the “culture” that’s instilled, fans need to be rational human and not listen to these celebrities. If an artist said “everybody bring a gun to astroworld”, you should have the cognitive ability to know that bringing a gun is not something that you should do. You have to have morals to understand that the shit these celebrities are saying is not code. Rip to all of those involved, I was at astroworld and was heart broken about the people who lost their lies, because at the end of the day, that could have been me.

Bray

Love you guys, strait from South Africa

Edd

Thank to you guys, Now I know half of NFL Teams

Edd

would love to see you guys talk about the real football

Edd

Do y’all recommend any podcasts that are similar to y’all’s?

Justin Roberts

I’d watch every visual podcast if it was ready to roll at 8am every Friday like this one! 🤣 good look this week!

Braden McCorkle

100% of the people that are blaming him never been on a stage at a night set 1. whether the music is on or off it is still difficult to hear others 2. when you have strobe light directly point at your face for a certain amount of time if gets difficult to see even 30 yards out. Nowadays at these festivals its almost a normal thing if someone passes out but nobody think of it as lifethreating situation. If you compare the first 2 festival they only had Barricades protecting the stage and the rest was an open field. yes it was wrong on everyones part but travis is there to do one thing and one thing only perform

Jay DropEmm

Still can’t watch the video

Meziier

They been raging at shows and hopping gates. I agree travis should take accountability, but we have to blame the fans. The 2-4000 ppl who broke in

ILY.Meech

It says the video’s unavailable

I flip that 6️⃣ it’s a 9️⃣ now

Saints Nation

Where’s the Summer Walker reaction?

Notoriousdreday

Let's Goooooooo #whole9

Joy A.

But no he’s not a murderer

When you go to a events like that, that are crowded like that, standing shoulder to shoulder yo chest to somebody’s back and vice versa, you don’t have any control. You’re being pushed and you cannot control where you go. So this idea of raging and stomping people out out of recklessness is a bug accusation. We don’t know exactly how every person died or who did it or the circumstances. It’s to broad. Travis holds an event he’s responsible for the people/teams that put it together. It’s indirect but clearly he’s still a part of this, still responsible. You also brought up the movie mother, I think that paints a picture of an event that we really didn’t see. We don’t know if that’s a fair comparison. My only assumption is that there wasn’t nearly enough organization for the amount of people and the behavior that was encouraged.

there was a group of about 10 people far asf from the stage. you try hearing 10 people out of 50k plus people while you’re trying to throw a performance infront if screaming fans

camrynnn

correction, they ran up to a cameraman who proceeded to disregard them until later on. they did not run up to travis himself and transfer the information to him directly…

camrynnn

His lack of professional team members were also a big part of the reason why shit went left. Fans are almost like children! If you don’t set boundaries they are going to cause havoc

Joshua Mcconnie

There was also video footage of HUNDREDS of people screaming at him to stop the show almost 50 ft from the stage. To a certain extent he knew exactly what was going on but he refused to stop his show. People that were actually there witnessed the fact that he knew. There is no excuse and he needs to take most of the blame as the host and performer of the show.

Joshua Mcconnie

Love how raw the take was on the Travis Scott sitch BUT, there was actually video footage of his teenage fans running up on his stage and BEGGING for help! The only thing Travis said was “who trynna stop the show” and then proceeded to perform.

Joshua Mcconnie

Also who tf brings a 9 year old kid to a concert let alone a Travis concert

Preet Randhawa

That Travis situation mad sketch

Jayden Jones

i feel like he was most likely prefaced by lawyers to not claim any ownership or accountability because there have been a lot of big-time lawyers hopping on this case for the big cash out, and if trav were to put out an apology literally admitting it was his fault it would be a slam dunk in court. That's my take on the whole trav not claiming ownership for the tragedy. RIP

Gabriel Abi Raad

Also this is like day 202022838 of me asking for y’all to react to WLR

Preet Randhawa

Saw a vid of cops recording Travis and drake... I think if Travis knew the extent to what was going on and there were actually people dying then he definitely would’ve stopped but whole situation sad

Preet Randhawa

Just as I heard about the Visual Coming 2 YT, Shoutout 9

RXL 90

Whole 9🤘🏾👑👑🔥

Moses Jenga