MalloryBrosPodcast Ep. 49 - "He Can Rap"

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Armanda P.

Lmao I can tell these niggas don’t like listening to people critique

Almighty DxR

Terrance bayless strikes again

Elijah

Terrance’s argument is shaky. He’s letting his passion overtake his logic. I’m not the absolute biggest J. Cole fan, but I did enjoy the album. Do I think it’s the best thing I’ve ever heard, no. But I won’t deny the fact that J.Cole’s pen has improved greatly. I even think that if no one else drops this year, then TOS may very well be the runner-up for Rap Album of the Year. But Terrance needs to understand that his opinion is just his opinion and you can’t get at Terrell for having his own opinion about his favorite artist. In addition, Terrell is right for poking holes in Terrance’s argument about taking J.Cole’s verse from “Say Na” and comparing it to other verses because there was no basis for that claim. And then he talks about “Yeezus” and the SOUND of Yeezus. But this is confusing because they spent the whole conversation talking about rapping ability, not innovative sounds. If he were to make the argument about having something new to offer in general, then that would make sense. A lot of Terrance’s claims in this podcast have no strong basis and that’s why his argument here is weak.

Valdy Valere

I doubt y’all will see this but Vibe Villa’s channel is very similar to your guys’ and they have a “best verses” series they do for different artists and I think that’d be so dope for y’all to do. Like they have one for Wayne, Em

Trevor

Terrance is right any slight criticism made on J.Cole is looked at like an attack the album was good but people are going off like it’s even one the best albums of the year I understand people are gonna be biased but don’t be made at somebody with a difference of opinion

Great camera work fellas! Loved y’all shooting in the daytime felt like a different pod

2014 FHD was AOTY tho

Funny ass episode yall. Cole never touched the throne in his career. He’s never had an AOTY.

Tre

I need whatever Terrance was smoking before this episode

Cullen Davis

I felt the same way, u see it alot in basketball where someone will say "I don't hate LeBron I just hate his toxic fans" to me its just an excuse to hate cuz u mad someone else is enjoying them more than you do

Hassan Kamara

Born sinner and Forrest hills drive are good albums but not all time greats

Mello

The album is underwhelming. J.Cole is a great rapper, but artist wise and creating great albums as a whole, he’s just not there. Spent three years working on an album, you expect great art. Yes, you can rap but putting together great art, I feel like, he didn’t. This album has good songs but it’s not great and it’s not his best album.

Mello

Terrance... just pick a side my nigga lol smh

Deon Saunders

i felt like terrance's critiques were more about the Jcole fan base than they were about the album itself.

Muna

Terrance is is one of the best constructive critics and ppl call it hating smh he just trying to be 1000% objective. You can kinda tell that terrell has some sort of bias towards j cole and his music

Jephte Maignan

We need the investing/wealth corner after tech corner

Clay Clark

I'm gonna preface this with saying I am a Drake stan so I don't have a dog in y'all fight over J.Cole. If you asked a Drake or Kendrick fan who is their biggest competition in the game who would you say? It would not be J.Cole. I’m not heavy on J.Cole and his discography but I thought this album was fye. He shot like 10/12. J.Cole is without a doubt in the top 3 in the game, including Drake and Kendrick. 
But he's 3, any other ranking is wrong IMO. The reason being, he is supreme in his niche of the game which is rapping and storytelling. But he’s not even the best in his niche of rapping, Kendrick is. (Terrance you trippin saying hella niggas can out rap him). He’s literally Dame Lillard of the rap game, Kendrick is Steph Curry, and Drake is Bron. You both have a lot of good points in regard to him. J.Cole is a special rapper. I would say J.Cole asks for these critiques by what he says in his music. He self proclaims he's the best, so his ass will get measured by that same stick, and IMO he falls short of the "best alive". That doesn’t mean I’m not a fan or am hating on what he creates. Y’all preferences of what y’all like in rap shows in y’all stance on J.Cole and y’all should just chalk it to that.

Nick Basquine

HEY CAN WE GET A PLAYBOI CARTI WLR REACTION PLS ITS HONESTLY AN OVERHATED ALBUM.

NoeltheGR8

You have them mixed up ....

3nvision

Terrance bro I love your opinion and inputs (usually) but there’s NO way around it bro you sat there for 30 minutes and hated on J Cole, album aside it just sounded like you were tryna get the hate off you chest. It was a good album for everybody’s standards. You can’t compare drake Kendrick and j coles music and say “had (blank) dropped (blank) we would’ve said (blank)” because we listen to each respective artist for different reasons and their individual discography’s have to be treated as a single entity. I guess what I’m trying to say is that you were tripping the entire time you were talking about Cole and Terrel you definitely have to challenge that because you were visibly frustrated with what he was saying like a lot of us, and you just let him go on his soliloquy of why The album was “mid”. Again love the podcast and everything but this one got me kinda heated.

Raymond Batista

anybody that’s not a stan know off season was mid. especially for a nigga claiming he the on the thrown. let’s be real...it was coo

Kenneth Suber

J Cole: "100 mill and I'm still on the grind" Terrence: "Booooo!!" Kendrick: "This what god feel like. Laughing to the bank like haha....." Terrence: "This is fire!" Lol. This nigga a hater. There's no need to hate, man. People are allowed to like J. Cole and think he's the best right now.

Terrance I really fuck with you honestly but if I’m being sincere your sounding like a legitimate joe budden hatin ass nigga. You compared j Cole’s music to sandwiches which is disrespectful asf. I sincerely don’t understand why you critique this album so badly when you didn’t go off on the young thug joint. I will admit the album is great but to say it was mid you honestly need to check yourself cos for real for real your not respecting the artistry of j Cole

Evan Adetunji

I agree but also it's called the off-season for a reason. The documentary said this was to show his skills before the fall off.

come on y'all with the seeing green reaction you wouldn't take this long for these other niggas!!!!!

luna

Terrance makes a bunch of good points. This was a great album, but was it the album you expected from the GOAT after three years??? Definitely not. There are no stand-out, No Role Models type songs.

Nicholas

Terrance I respect your opinion and the fact that you stand firm on what you say but some of your critiques for Cole can also be applied to the niggas you call GOAT as well so there is a bit of inconsistency in your argument.

Khalil Jamal

I think music is & always will be subjective to the listener, so if someone feels J.Cole is the Goat to their musical experience as a listener. You can’t say they are wrong . Just like I think Jay Z is the Greatest Rapper Alive . I stand on that it won’t change . But a lot of people will claim is Wayne or who ever .

3nvision

And not trying to take away your message about systemic oppression but that story about the 7200 dicks in a cooler was fact-checked as satire: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-satire-organs/fact-check-story-about-organs-found-on-a-cargo-ship-was-intended-as-satire-idUSL1N2M821Y

Terrell bringing up Biden passing the Asian-American anti-hate bill and saying he don't give a damn was corny sl. As an Asian-American, I will never relate or understand your struggle as a black person in America. But I can still sympathize with your frustration seeing someone else eat while you've been oppressed for so long and not getting shit, even if it's my own people. Ik you don't wish hate crimes on anybody but saying you don't care was ignorant esp as a minority. I fw y'all heavy but watch how you be conveying your message before it gets misconstrued

This is the most level headed take I’ve seen. Terrance man please read this shit

Dipset

Terrance sound like such a j cole hater, and Terrell sound like such a kanye hater, yeezus and off season both great albums

Waleed Masood

Terrence bro, you need to understand the energy you came into the review with. You came in like hatin ass nigga, respectfully. You weren’t listening to listen, you were listening to critique. That’s why ppl coming for you. It’s okay that you think this is some mid, I do too; but you can’t be mad that ppl mess with it and think that he the greatest. He’s put himself in that talk and there are a lot of ppl who agree. Simple

Olu

Terrence comparing J cole’s music to sandwiches is wild

tundrxdemon

I looked up what terrell said about the Chinese and found that the story was fake. Just letting yall know.

Terrance was speaking the real one this one! Sorry

Trishaunie Lewis

i got you bro

Abdiwahid Ahmed

ii thought my bias would show saying this but THANK YOU!! definitely agree lol

Wess

That's a fair assessment. Terrance really acting like this is trash.

Merrin Thomas

4 your eyes only is a better album than this new j cole honestly.

Abdiwahid Ahmed

In my honest opinion as a Cole stan, this album was really good..not great. Too many people are saying this is his best body of work & that’s the issue to me. The flows were NEXT LEVEL, the verses were GREAT, but again, the production was 50/50. His production holds him back. Production on ‘The Climb Back’ & ‘Interlude’ was insane!! A lot of the other shit was basic in my opinion. Again tho, his flows & pen are next level. I think Terrence feels the way he feels because when Cole isn’t giving you a ‘Climb Back’ level of rapping, his playback value isn’t the same as a Drake. Difference with Kendrick is, even tho his playback value isn’t always great, he always gives you top tier pen on everything..along with top tier production. All in all, this is Cole’s 3rd best album in my opinion. I’d take ‘2014’ & ‘KOD’ over this.

Wess

Wow! All this time I wanted my parents to yell during my games, but I guess they were doing the right thing without even knowing 🤦🏾‍♀️

Joy A.

This pod was pure gold! I remember those days when I couldn't afford lunch so I had to eat the cold sandwich 😪 That is until one of the lunch ladies told me about reduced lunch!🙌🏾 After that I was eating what everyone was eating practically for free 😁

Joy A.

This is 100% false! I am literally the only one who's willing to give J Cole a "Real Critique". The Off Season has NO concept. That's it. I simply said what an OFF SEASON concept would be like. I'm not TRYING to do anything. My opinion has never changed. Love you tho! 9 -Terrance

Mallory Bros.

I DO!

Mallory Bros.

Lmao Cole is more relatable than drake idk where ya getting drake being relatable from unless ya rich white kids from the suburbs then I can see ya relating to drake Cole is also as talented as jay I’ve listen to jay my whole life he and Cole have the same approach to writing lyrics slick clever word play rhyming jay doesn’t have some of the jus ridiculous lines Cole has atleast in his prime he didn’t but he not that far above Cole as a writer now the only thing you said that makes sense is he’s not as intricate as k dot or as daring as kanye those are undeniable facts but Cole also doesn’t lose niggas like kanye be doing a lot of that “daring” shit from ye was ass and kendrick is more conceptual and artistic but Cole is the better story teller and draws more emotion from people than kendrick does so I mean they a toss up Cole is the subtle mc the grounded guy who gonna make slight changes but not stray to far from his comfort zone we understand that but to say he can’t be on the throne for rn Bc of it is ridiculous and to say he not arguably the goat of “his” gen is ridiculous he can be both you don’t have to agree wit that but he can be both Cole keeps you grounded relating to you and to say Cole is redundant I mean 90% of the rap game is unless your names ain’t kanye k dot and some others like

Mad Max

Loll Cole is this gen mos deff idk if he is the Nas of our gen Nas was an alien Cole either mos deff mixed wit guru from gangster to me while

Mad Max

Great points bro I myself take Cole over kendrick but what you said was spot on about conceptually k dot being the best at that than Cole and then drake and lyrics and all that. Idk if Cole flat out lyrically better than kendrick I think he more clever and is better at painting a picture with his words as a story teller than kendrick but lyrically there close but other than that I agree wit everything you said I would rank Cole overall over kendrick myself but jus as personal preference not mad at some one who got k dot over Cole but drake is a no he’s good but nah out of the three he’s clearly last

Mad Max

Life of Pablo was clearly the better project lmao

Mad Max

I feel like it’s okay to admit you just don’t like the man LMAOOO. There are rappers I also don’t like for no reason and my opinion towards them is biased but at least I admit it. Jumping through hoops to discredit the man, it’s cool you’re just not a big Cole fan. 😭😭😭😭

Toritse Valerie

COLORING BOOK VS LIFE OF PABLO WHICH IS BETTER 🤩🥴🤟🏾👀

Tony Goss

Every bar went over terrance’s head

Terrance just hush lmao go bump Woopty Scoop and Closed on Sundays

raynasty

Terrance is lowkey right. He's doing too much but his point is that just because Cole is consistently very very good that doesn't make him one of the greats. And that shouldn't be considered hating

Wesly

Terrence makes excellent and not so good points (in my humble opinion chill). I don't know how he doesn't hear that J Cole considerably improved in terms of bars, flows and singing on this album. Compare this album to his previous stuff. He constantly changes flows, the album is layered with fire bars (that Krispy Kreme that yall missed was insane). He definitely got better which goes into the concept of an off-season. J Cole has never been this energetic especially in his last albums. Now about J Cole being the GOAT I totally agree with Terrence, he's not to me, but that doesn't make me mad at him pretending to be. Another point I totally disagree with Terrence about is "niggas loving DAMN when it came out". T H A T I S C A P. So many people where shitting on it, saying it was a letdown, etc. This noise started as soon as Humble dropped with people saying "wtf is this?". The reviews might have been overwhelmingly good but let's be honest: after TPAB nobody wanted to miss the next album from Kendrick and not be hyped about it. But multiple songs from DAMN people were not fucking with. In my opinion, J Cole is better lyrically than Kendrick, but Drake is better than both of them. Kendrick is better in concepts than J Cole who is better than Drake. J Cole is the most relatable of both. To me it's Kendrick > J Cole >>> Drake. Drake's albums are mediocre to me, and I actually feel the same way about him as Terrence feels about J Cole. So I'm not mad at him for his opinion, I just disagree with it.

Pape

Sunny vibes are DIFFERENT

Wesly

I’m HUGE a fan of Cole since 2012 ... I understand why people don’t care for his hype . Also tho I don’t think it’s should be a problem if he calls himself the goat 🐐 or saying he’s one of the greatest . I truly believe Cole is Our generation Nas . I truly feel like Kdot , Cole and Drake all had some hits and misses for sure . That doesn’t take away what they have done for the game . But I do respect Terrence opinion .

On KOD, maybe 2 songs really mentioned drugs for real 😄.

Fr bruh I’ve been a die hard jcole fan for a while but some of these other jcoles fans doin too much, he doesn’t have THAT masterpiece in his discog to consider him any higher then top 30/20 of all time, but Terrance callin jcole out for that “100 mil” track like Kendrick don’t have “god”. Both tracks are some of Kendrick and coles worse ever

"I guess J Cole has to do a backflip, change his flow a thousand times, change genres, test country maybe and maybe he'll be good enough for Terrence" lmfaooo I'm dead

saintdogg

Lol I have to respond to this. Why are you talking about where J Cole lives and him talking about social issues. 🤦🏾‍♂️ EXACTLY what I talk about where I say J Cole fans can’t separate The ARTIST and the PERSON. I never said he didn’t progress at all. I said LISTEN TO THE DIFFERENCE IN PROGRESSION between the two artists. Cole 100% had progressed as a rapper. Has he earned a spot on Mt. Rushmore? No. THATS LITERALLY MY ONLY POINT. -Terrance

Mallory Bros.

I feel like Terrence doesn’t have valid evidence to back up his points when it comes to J. Cole. He said Drake shows progression throughout his career for Im all one to Lemon Pepper freestyle but Cole didn’t. Lol Friday Night Lights and For your eyez only is a big progression. From him being in Muhammad crib to now him having a child we didn’t know about and him being married. Also him using his platform to speak on social justice issues that we’re facing. That’s a big accomplishment in life and a big step. I fw Terrence but I think he just one of them niggas thats just always wanna be different 😂 Everyone opinion matters but I feel like he try to hard to be different. He saying KOD was ight and a “cheat code” but in the review this nigga was having the time of his life listening to it 😭 but now its “ight”. That just don’t make sense to me

Joshua Whaley

j cole can never win with terrance honestly

luna

Terrance embarrassing himself with these takes because if you go back to every Cole review since KOD Cole has made this nigga look stupid. He shut him up on KOD. He shut him up on “The London”. He shut him up on “AOTY Freestyle”. The moral of the story is you don’t like J Cole music you like Drake and Kendrick and you salty you haven’t had any Kendrick to review or listen to in 4 years. Cole is on the throne. Period.

Justice

Yea Terrence tripping, especially about J Cole not killing that year he featured on everyone’s shit and bodied. Good pod tho y’all killed it 👌🏾

Elijah Mugabe

Terrence slander since he slandering j Cole for absolutely no reason... I’m here for it 🤣 sorry fam. Still love you

Jordan Ingram

No disrespect to Terrell but I always look forward to Terrance's insight because he always has an opposing position on most topics. Not only are they opposing but they have an interesting viewpoint that is always justifiable. I can never predict what Terrance will say but he's never completely in the wrong. Terrell always has the general consensus while Terrance is giving a controversial more evolved/mature reaction. Terrance is right but he's right too early on his opinions for most to understand. Great example would be his call out on black trauma films which no one noticed the pattern but T been sayin it. Then all of sudden on Twitter everyone hates it and is saying what Terrence has said. For the Cole argument: Cole is not versatile/relatable like Drake, he's not as detailed or intricate or even better a rapper than Kendrick, he's not as profound or daring as Kanye not as talented as Jay. Cole is redundant, predictable and is not a G.O.A.T not even close.

Idris

Bro it’s like Terrance is mad that people like Cole more than he does, it doesn’t make sense.

Khalif Sawyer

Terrance criticizes Cole fans for explaining that the album is called “the off-season” bc he’s in the gym doing lyrical drills to get his punchline pen back right to prepare for the music that he’ll make in the future. But then says the concept of the album should’ve been about what ppl do in the basketball off-season…. Terrance seems like he’s trying to fight against the narratives that the Cole stans are making instead of giving his real opinions on the music itself. Anytime Terrell asks him a point blank question, he gets on a tangent or skirts it. Love both of the Bros but Terrance isn’t giving any real critiques

Jon

you cant keep it real yourself nigga suicide ill do the job you decide kill yaself - rum nitty

Terrance is definitely just a hater....like honestly my Question to u Terrance is who is on the throne right now if not j cole... cause it’s not drake because he doesn’t have that story telling aspect to his rapping. But the fact that kdot has not dropped in 4 years damn near me u can not argue he is. If u wanna say Kendrick is better rapper that’s respectable but u can’t sit here and say that this album wasn’t that great ....and their has been no revolution to J cole like honestly go listen to his old mixtapes then listen to 2014 Forrest and all his albums afterwards and say there’s no change. Like drake still raps bout same shit too.😂 like the main evolution in j cole raps is that he didn’t always say he was on throne or call himself the best rapper. That came within the last 3 years. Like I said your entitled to ya opinion but it took u years to finally admit that Kanye was trending downwards with his music. Me personally I can say the album was 12/12 but I’m not mad I think Terrell speaks for the mass majority of us. But we’re all entitled to our opinion tho my guy. Still all love tho I just had to get off I really wish I could actually have a otp conversation wit u about this😭.

Quincy

I Fw with Terrence but you can not call j cole fans delusional and then say Yeezus was a great album when it came out and how can you say Conway can out rap cole because of one album yeah sounds like hate lol and 100 mil is not great but not bad either and it’s just the chorus but if you actually listen too the words it’s saying keep grinding even when your at the top don’t let up

Bishup1887

Oh and Terrell, “you can’t keep it real with yourself, suicide or i’ll do the job, you decide, Kill yourself” -Rum Nitty can y’all talk about battle rap (url) seems like y’all fuck with it, thru the years of me watching yall you guys sumtimes have little quotes an i’m a big fan of URL Smack Loll theres a tournament going on, An there’s the final 4 Rum vs Cortez, Geechi vs Casey Jay going on on the 22 of may, i got Rum an Geechi going to the final, what y’all think about the tournament an who are y’all favs and did y’all follow up on the tournament that’s been going on?

Kashaun

Terrence you got some points, but j cole pen was on point, and you don't keep the same energy for cole that you do with ye drake and kdot! still love you tho bro.

Delesion Fowler

Terrance was right about cole, just facts 🤷🏽‍♂️

Kashaun

J Cole rapping gets better with each album but the album quality in whole gets worse, this new album really forgettable

Richbend

"You can't keep it real yourself. Suicide or I'll do the job, you decide. Kill yourself" Shoutout Nitty

Rossetti

thats hella disrespectful, Cole is one of the greats period. It's gone take for this man to die for ya'll to give em his credits

born.miles

neva disrespect like that

born.miles

Lmao yea I tweaked 😅😅😅

Mad Max

Terrance want us to take out the love we got for j Cole and just listen . DO IT FOR THUG ! YE ? FUTURE ? you refuse 😭😭 the biggest hypocrite on the Patreon platformmmm . but ima still pay my $3 😭😭

Precious Love

These Ye fans (Terrance) insecure af cuz their GOAT fell off hard af and jealous that we still have a prime Cole and that he dont make tracks for now but ones that will stand the test of time. Go back to listening to Ye’s Jesus is King album cuz thats what yall got from your GOAT. “TakE tHE emOtiON OUt”

SmoothOperator

Mannnnn that song my shit the ending of that song so hard Bas was singing his ass off lmao

raynasty

Frfr “I hope it’s bad I hope it’s bad” on the inside🤣

raynasty

Terrence really been making the podcast cringy asf with this Cole shit. You doing way too much bro. Just listen to the music and enjoy it for what it is. All this critical thinking and Martin Luther King speech about how Cole ain’t the goat. You not even allowing yourself to enjoy the music for real. Standing there with your arms folded looking like Billy Baker and shit during the review. Relax nigga

Drake put out Gods Plan which is mediocre and look at them numbers . You got Cole way fucked up 😭 .

Precious Love

and we all know we finna hear 100 mil all summer 😭

Precious Love

Uzi be callin himself GOD what are you talking about ? 😭😭😭😭

Precious Love

Mannn at this point I’m just here for Terrell lmao need The Terrell Mallory Show asap

raynasty

Kendrick said he was the goat in 2019, 2 years AFTER DAMN (3 features for the year) on Big Boy’s shit 😒 . He ain’t dropped nothing since 2017 . Y’all were 22 years old 😭😭 . I love Kdot I play his music everyday, but the Kendrick vs Cole conversation is over . Now Cole and Drake is a completely different subject .

Precious Love

Also the reason they’re trying to bribe everyone to get the vaccines is to reach herd immunity! That’s the point of vaccines, but if too many hold off on getting them we’ll never reach it lol

ADI1992

Loll Shawn cee does that a lot I jus think Terrence tho doesn’t like this album from Cole like that and idg he really knows the rzn why loll Shawn he jus be saying shit that in later videos he retracts he does that all the time

Mad Max

Lmao bro kendrick was all over the place on damn lightly talking about the Israelite truth and went to the basic Deuteronomy verse that every body and they moma knows about the true people of Israel being black or Hispanic dna tied back into that as well the whole album was basically about the true people of Israel and the curses they go through great concept but he was all over wit it and strayed a lot Bc he don’t believe in it he believes in the kemit stuff and it was the sequel to TPAB from the why is the system like this to damn where he tried to loosely explain it being a spiritual tie from the curses stipulated in Deuteronomy but when you got songs like humble god loyalty wit Rihanna which I hated I mean and there’s the dna track which he stole from somebody 🤣🤣🤣 he did try something different tho I give him credit for that but j Cole is more subtle he not jus gonna do something different he gonna subtly do it that’s always been j Cole that’s his appeal it’s very jay z esque where he slowly adapts over time that’s why your never gonna get that from Cole but he brings out more emotion to people than kendrick does I will say that

Mad Max

Lmao Terrence brotha I hear you on ya Cole criticism but bro you do drag it and it is borderline or out right hate idk which one Bc you make solid points but let’s be clear drake has never had a better pen than j Cole lmao also drake hasn’t elevated on topics he talked about all he do is say a bunch of rich nigga shit and simp on songs he was far more relatable when he was on the come up and I 100% think the off szn better than scorpion was side b off scorpion was meh and side a was good really good but it wasn’t the best lyricism from drake we’ve Hurd outside of a couple tracks I mean the nigga in that song said ik I’m light skin but I’m still a dark nigga 🤣🤣🤣 and ima be honest here of the three kings Cole drake kendrick I’ve always like kendrick and Cole far more than drake and I do think you can make the case that Cole is better than kendrick as well I mean look damn was a good album but Terrell is right that album did have to grow on a lot of people and years after the fact people don’t really speak that highly of that album another thing wit kendrick is TPAB isn’t that replayable like the hooks on that album was whack everything else was amazing but people don’t run that album back to back like that like all of these guys have flaws in they games and Terrell you completely right bro j Cole the only rapper that people want different content from its crazy Conway my guy but he don’t rap about nothing else but the stuff he rap about same wit drake same wit pusha t etc kendrick to a degree as well jay did that as well only rappers that change topics like that have been ye old Nas Tupac lupe common like there ain’t too many guys you can throw k dot in there too even tho k dot be talking that same Compton shit mixed wit the black plight of pain in every album he’s done but he does it in different ways so he does switch it up and Cole could 100% out rap Conway on a track ain’t no way a nigga say a nigga tried to floss and died over a cross like the start of Christianity and can’t out rap anybody on any given day now if it was multiple tracks or a tape together id got Conway but Cole is kawhi Leonard of rap not flashy does him goes home or w.e he does but you know when it time to play he the top 1% in the game there was definitely like 8 great songs off this album the rest was pretty good 100 mill was ok wasn’t bad wasn’t great you wahlin on punch is the clock but that track had to grow on me Cole was talking on that one let go of my hand was amazing writing where he got personal and close that whole scheme was fire the issue wit this album is Cole could’ve added more the album is pretty quick which leaves you wit a I want more but that’s all and that intro was fire 🔥 and we talking about a guy who the first rapper ever to go number one 6straight times off his album releases and 3 of them is jus him wit no fts platinum time and time again idt Cole in the top 20 greatest rappers all time lmao but he is on the throne right now and he can say it he has the stats that warrants that attention he a better song writer than drake and kendrick better story teller than drake Kdot debatable and his pen greater than drake for sure kendrick not so sure on that but it’s close now is he as versatile as Drizzy no is he as artistic as kendrick no he’s Cole and this thing about him not speaking from his perspective as a bad thing is silly loll Nas did it pac did it a lot of niggas did that that’s what makes him relatable

Mad Max

Yes it is lmao

Mad Max

Dude I don’t get ya beef with him saying he the goat, that’s regular rap shit

Seydou Niang

Check out the police reform bill being worked on in Congress... Repubs may end up blocking it but at least they’re putting something together

ADI1992

All true, plus new flu strains come from Asia every year and travel was way down

ADI1992

Hey , just wanted to make a suggestion for next weeks podcast. Try recording in segments through the week . Therefore your topics and opinions on topics will be captured sooner. You don’t have to wait until Friday .

S.

Y’all definitely might have to go listen to that Plug Talk 2 . Cause I believe Benny definitely could out rap Cole . 💯

Von Brown

What The Fuck Is Terrence Talking Bout During The Cole Topic 😂😂😂😂

Jawahn31

Drake raps about the same stuff too. Wtf. Ya’ll nitpicking. I think it’s okay not to like the album but forcing people not to like because of your perspective is dumb smh.

Carlton Makaza

And saying he raps from other people’s perspective as if he does that for on all songs. Kendrick does the same exact thing on to TPAB and DAMN.

Carlton Makaza

Terrance said the LA leakers freestyle had more energy than the “whole album”. That’s all you need to hear from a Cole hater in denial. Dude chose one one song to judge the whole album.

Carlton Makaza

I agree with Terrance on this cole album it’s definitely Luke warm. I definitely feel Terrance!

Brandi

Terrance and Terrell…. Flu cases are down in the past year because of widespread mask wearing and social distancing. Covid is way more infectious than the flu, that’s why we had so many covid cases

Evans Ashina

Crazy theory on the epidemic I’m watching a show rn where the world is on the brink of nuclear world war which would cause humans to go extinct. But government officials come up with the plan to unite ppl across the world through FEAR! So the government drops an alien on the world in different section of the world killing millions. Those ppl being so scared of the aliens they completely forgot abt world war and focused on them aliens. Could the epidemic be that “alien” sorta speak, where it’s used to unite ppl across the world!???

cam floyd

Forget concepts just song vs. song KOD > Off Season! KOD had better songs if we’re being honest, Off Season just felt like Cole tryna get his bars off which I’m not mad at, but there wasn’t little to no variety. KOD had turn ups like ATM & Motiv8, Storytelling in BRACKETS & Once an Addict, Love songs in Photograph & Kevin’s Hart, and Boom Bap type songs in 1985 & The Cut Off, it’s a more complete album with better tracks and better concepts, which is why I feel it’s better than Off Season. Lemme know what y’all think!

Daniel

Terrell...cole definitely can not out rap conway, its the other way around😭

Mo Coco

Damn tho I swear I wish I could sit down with you two and just educate y’all on some shit lmaooooooo

the OFFSEASON kinda feels like it was called that because he is working on proving something and practicing his craft in some different ways. pretty generic .. but its cool cause its leading to the fall off. as in "this how im workin for the fall off". Production of the album FIRE. the beat choices were fire. 100mil my least fav track. only song i think was a Bside. Yall gotta take it light with the GOAT talk. we got alot of goats out here like polo g for example. It's just some shit, everybody hit different (drake, kendrick, cole, wayne, etc.) they all do different shit and they do it great... btw yall intro just hit different too. good shit

I see what Terrance is saying, 3 years for off-season as a B side project is a bit underwhelming, even if it is solid

Mo Coco

No disrespect cause Terrance is the boy but...

We still haven’t heard it and plan to do a video for it! 😈

Mallory Bros.

Everything Terrance said about Drakes evolution as an artist applies to J. Cole as well and it’s funny how he either doesn’t see it or just refuses to admit or see it. J. Cole’s pen has improved in terms of technical ability and his style has drastically changed or at the least his artistic reach has broadened by a great deal just over the course of his last three albums. He went from the slow and jazzy instrumentals 4YEO to the modern trap beats and melodic flows of The Off-Season. Regardless of whether or not you can see or appreciate the growth so far as given to you on The Off-Season there are two more projects we have yet to receive and maybe you’ll see by then.

Kendrick & Drake definitely dropping 40 each and cole just dropped a lil 25

Gavin

Checkers is definitely low tier fast food!

Jada

Shit I definitely agree with @Vi sales. J cole caught me by surprise when I heard “The Climb Back” on his album because that shit old and we needed something new on his album if he claim to be the goat of this gen. I love cole but this album don’t stand strong against Forest Hills Drive and Friday Night Lights shit even his mixtapes. Btw 100 Mil’ is one of my favorite songs on the album!!!! Am I a fucking lame for that???? Ctfuuuuu

aye just reaching the end of the j cole rant and Terrance you’re right asl. his topics are very shallow and often from the perspective of someone else. yes we resonate with the tracks but he’s never dug deep and spoke about himself, it feels like suffers from survivors guilt. he doesn’t want to completely separate himself from people like us cus it’s always been his audience

Vi

Is Coles album better than Meeks Championships?

CHRIS BROWN DA GOAT.... no better way to start off the pod #9ers

I didn’t listen to the podcast earlier because I always like watching the visuals so me and Terrance had dialogue on Twitter before me hearing him explain his reason. So now that I’ve heard it, I agree. I am a huge j cole fan but even when I first heard the album once I got to the end I felt dissatisfied, like is that it? But as a j cole fan I listened again 10 more times and I grew to actually like the album. But I do not think this is even in his top 5 albums of all time. And even though we know the premise of why he dropped this album, there’s niggas like drake and kendrick who’s about to drop some crazy heat. 100 mil’ sounds like a throwaway, like he made the song in a month but he was away for three years. This isn’t hate because I fw every track on the album but as a top 3 rapper in the game, you have to come harder than this. He didn’t really have the room to drop the off season with him claiming to have worked so hard

Vi

Day light podcast is a must from now on. I’m unsubbing if not🤷🏾‍♂️...............

LoganAW

Terrell TRIPPIN regarding the Kanye/YEEZUS comments. Ye inspired the industrial sound we see in cata like uzi, Scott, and even the elements of grunge and punk we see in emo rappers. The synth parts were not average. Listen to “Hold my liquor” and listen to the arrangement, the beat break down in the beige, and the arrangement in “I’m in it”. Also, the subject matter was Ye vs industries like Nike, and voices claiming he couldn’t create a fashion line, and now look at him. As a Cole fan, nothing he has produced will ever touch Ye, even if he (Cole) sold “lil new sneaker”, too. With ye, we made rap/pop mainstream when we got graduation; then pioneered emotional auto rap with 808s, and then gave us industrial/punk/grunge rap with YEEZUS, and finally, experimental Rap/hiphop with TLOP—each of those albums have inspired evert facet of hip hop we see today. To terrance’s point, he isn’t hating if he says an album is good, but not great. If anything, he holds Cole to a higher standard than his stans do, because he knows Cole could do a better job to deliver a more conceptual and cohesive album, but failed to do so. Finally, regarding DAMN. Damn was initially not well received because of the huge shift in subject matter form Kendrick. He deviated from what he gave us with his social commentary, “To Pimp a Butterfly” and instead gave us another conceptual album. BUT this PROVES terrance’s point. Terrances point is that Cole has not evolved. DAMN was not well received BECAUSE Kendrick evolved. And, for the record, the same thing happened with “To Pimp a Butterfly”. Remember, everyone was upset with the drop of “I” and even Ebro have push back on it on Hot 97. Why? Well, because Kendrick had evolved, took an artistic risk, from GKMC. That is what Cole has failed to do. As a Cole fan, I don’t like putting him in the same category as Kendrick. Cole is a cold rapper, but he isn’t an artist in the same way Kendrick is.

James Rivera

Lmaoo Terrance going crazy with the visual pod edits

Richbend

How y’all go the whole podcast without acknowledging the Nicki, Wayne & Drake track???

Notoriousdreday

I can’t access the visual pod 😭

Shit ain’t working

Devin

I’d say J cole is the Andre Iguadola of the rap game 🤣 really good throughout his career more so when he was younger but always been great and gets hella respect in the nba but he’s obviously not one of the greats, I know it sounds stupid but it’s my comparison 😂

How come the podcast isn’t being updated on Apple podcasts anymore?

Ferdz

I hear you Terrance. Ima big J Cole fan but I respect your objective. you make a solid case

Bright

Early Podcast looking fire man with the light outside! WE HERE!

Bright

my guys, I really fw y’all channel, the podcast, patreon, you guys are great. I’ve been thinking about starting a podcast but I don’t really have much of a following and I’m not even sure where to start for real but the biggest concern for me might be gaining a following so I was wondering if you had any advice for me before the start up. much respect always 9️⃣

Bright

Day podcasts look good bruh!

Richbend

Terrance giving me Shawn Cee vibes with the Cole reactions. Tryna be to much of a music savant and not judging it for what it is. “TakE tHe EmoTiON oUT”. Nah but fr tho ima ride or die 9er🤟🏽

SmoothOperator