MalloryBrosPodcast Ep. 65 - "When You Walk Through The Garden"

The "if you want" thing shouldn't be that big of a deal, but it is. I agree with both sides. Terrell, I'm a big fan of SOA & I know you are too. There was a scene in one of the last 2 seasons where Gemma told Nero, "Only men need to be loved sweetheart, women need to be WANTED." Powerful ass statement that is the mf truth. Women need to know you want them; they don't want to feel as if they're bugging or chasing you. Why do men have to add "if you want" at the end? ESPECIALLY knowing how most women will react? Like why can't they just say yeah? A woman asking if she can go over is already telling you she wants to go, so men's whole argument about using "if you want" as "no pressure" is unnecessary. Just tell her yes? Lol, it's really that simple. On the other hand, women do tend to overcomplicate things. That's some stuff we need to work on as a whole, but I just think it circles back to us not wanting to feel like we're bugging you & when you say "if you want" it doesn't sound like your excited about seeing us. Call it childish or complicated, but I think it just goes back to a woman needing to feel wanted.

It has to, and if it didn’t that’s so embarrassing for Cole.

Robert

The point is that drakes knows that bar was corny and it wasn’t a heavy hitting bar. It was a fun joking bar nothing serious. It’s different when an artist is really tryna get a bar off just how Cole does.

Robert

terrance take on that “if you want to” convo is such a toxic ass mindset lmao it ain’t that big of a deal. saying we’re the men so we gotta make all the decisions for women like it’s the 1940s again, ain’t no reason to over complicate it

Cam Dancy

CLB gets better with every listen

Edgar

The ‘if you want to’ conversation, I totally agree with Terrance.

Armanda P.

Could y’all do a FYEO flashback I feel as if the album has gotten better with time and that y’all will see that especially with certain songs that were slept on when the album first came out like changes

Nigga said if u don’t like clb u don’t get bitches 🤦🏽‍♂️😂 I’m dead. Maybe the music just kinda boring

Maxaveli

Terrance is such a close hater 🙄🙄🙄

They dropped within a week of each other. It’s only natural that people would compare CLB to DONDA and vis versa

Bianca Collins

Why Terrence going in on Cole like this. I feel disrespected. lol But I get what he's saying. It's different slightly for the poppy mainstream artists. They can get away with more because it's attractive to the younger crowds and they can caption them more on IG.

J. Cole had the better album than both of them. Drake's album was lackluster to me. Kanye's was different and inspiring production wise. Rodney King died in 2012 by the way.

I fw this take

Glo - Jo

The reason Drake has more replay value is like he was saying, its the occasion. I'm not gonna play Come To Life in the car with friends, in the gym, at a party, etc but does that make it a worse song than Way 2 Sexy? No, Come to Life is easily much more musically impressive than Way 2 Sexy, but it can't be played at every occasion. Both albums have different purposes, and they both fulfill them well. Just bc you hear a song more, does not make it better automatically. I would argue that Donda is a better album as a whole, but CLB is not "bad" either.

The topic of "you can come over if you want" showing up on this podcast is crazy. I shared that video from TikTok because I thought the poster made a good point, but I did not anticipate it getting the attention it did.

Jarel Powell

The whole if you want to, is frustrating, I want to talk to someone who’s decisive, yes or no, and if u respond with that I just feel like u iffy and I’m wasting my time or chasing you and u prolly not interested, I wouldnt say I’m missing out, u just might just be nonchalant and I want a gung-ho ass nigga lol (exaggeration) but I want u to ATLEAST seem interested. Show interest, everybody want that from who they talkin to.

Terrell really be out here speaking for us cole fans man like this nigga Terrance really just be disrespecting cole and it’s crazy yo…like dawg I have so many songs to prove this nigga wrong. Thank you rell this nigga trippin

Quincy

Im a Pats fan and they absolutely did my dawg Cam dirty

Eddie G

I feel like if you know your girl doesn't like when you say "if you want" why would you still do that knowing it rubs her the wrong way loool, I would just say "yes, you can come" because I know it makes her feel better, idk. Just one of those things you don't want to argue about for too long .

Toritse Valerie

You guys should react to some Mac Miller

Brit

Can’t wait to hear y’all opinion on the new episodes of Money Heist.

Im honestly confused by this statement, very few albums were better than KOD in 2018. Scorpion and Ye were not on KOD’s level

If Kanye came out with 4YEO you’d think it was spectacular. I was so tempted in buying y’all Cole tickets for just to show Terrance how goated Cole really is. Cole is the best storyteller in rap and that deserves respect ✊🏽

J cole is not sitting in the ranks with Kanye or Kendrick. It doesn’t matter how many times y’all say it, it will never be true. Cole does not have “rings,” he has A (one) ring...and that’s 2014 forest hills drive. And even that album does not come close to the importance of Ye’s first 5 albums and Kendrick’s first 3. If Cole never put out 2014 would y’all ACTUALLY ride for his other albums as much as y’all do? The answer is no. His albums are good for what they are, but they don’t reach the heights of MBDTF, TPAB, or even GKMC. Those albums have been cited as not only some of the greatest rap albums of all time, but as some of the greatest albums of all time in any genre period. Cole fans have to stop the silliness at some point.

Terrence is right idk why this is a convo tbh. J Cole is good at rapping. Kendrick is great at rapping. Ye and drake are pretty much great at everything. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Andre Caddle

This is unrelated but I’d love to see y’all react to past Chloe & Halle content and of course Chloe’s new solo single. As always, love your content!😍

Senika Witherspoon

nah if anything it's just so you feel like you're not pressuring them to come. It's like "I want you to come over but no stress if you don't wanna". don't try read between the lines lol "come if you want to" literally means what it says

Joseph Robson

The batman shirt convo killing me 😂

The whole “if u want” thing to me just makes it seem as if u don’t care if I come and don’t care if I don’t come. That energy is whack. Make your girl feel like u WANT her to come by just straight up saying “yes come” or “I want you to come” men are difficult 😂😂

Trishaunie Lewis

Holdddd on because it was a vibe when I heard walk it out in the car from the pod😂💯 let’s gooooo

Trishaunie Lewis

Terrance be making me so mad when he be hating on J Cole bruh oh my god

Terik Priest

Next podcast can yall start with Cold Hearted - Meek Mill

J T Daley

🔥🔥🔥

Name of that nip song?

Malik Moses

kendrick is the definition of an artist ngl just like drake and kanye. j cole isnt up there with those 3

MrDialHimUp

Ya'll gotta check out Michael K Williams Black Market show he had with VICE. Great informative show.

Breigh-Ann

I agree with terrance on the idea that honestly, Donda and CLB in terms of MUSICAL projects are miles better than the Off season, however if you base it on RAP, I think the Off season takes the cake.

cammy2k

I think men should just say yea come over to avoid an unnecessary argument but I agree when Terrell said that saying “if you want” is a natural saying no matter the subject lol. It also depends on how they say it. If he got an attitude I’m staying put but if he say it regular, just go 😂

Jada

Can y’all react to Baby Keem “The Melodic Blue”

“WE LOVE BALD!” 😭😂😭😂😭

Terrance contradicting himself why you hatin on cole so much and I know ye kdot and drake better 😂

KX.P

J Cole fans get SO MAD when niggas don’t praise mid KOD not no damn ring , j Cole got a Boston Celtics 08 ring with 2014

Richbend

They both have rings but the impact of the rings are different

Howard Sanders

Drake is Lebron, all around talent that can do alittle of everything, Cole is Kawhi who is fundamentally just as good but chooses to stay within a lane and lacks dynamic ability

Howard Sanders

Agreed with Terrance on the Drake Cole talk, Drake's delivery is more versatile and therefore allows him to slide with some lines such as oppy, etc. Cole sticks to one specific lane aka the core fundamentals butdoes it extremely well. FHD is his most versatile album but the rest are limited compared to Drake and Ye production, vibe, and delivery wise

Howard Sanders

Man!!!

Justice

On the “you can come over….” Point I def see both Terrell and Terrance’s point. Lol but I think I side with Terrance a bit more. The ocean analogy was brilliant. Instead of trying to understand why/trying to change it sometimes you gotta accept the nature of the world. But on the other end, acceptance stops if that “nature” becomes disrespectful or attempts to take advantage of me as a man, that’s when we gotta make some changes. And this is where I agree with Terrell, find yourself another ocean lol 😂. Great podcast!

Omar was definitely the star of The Wire

J cob

Terrance really just don't like cole at this point I'm convinced 😭😭🤦🏽‍♂️😭!

How you not know what you was getting on CLB it’s self explanatory in the title. Stop D riding drake and ye cuz you are way more lenient with them than Cole. if you don’t fw cole just say it cuz you calling FHD mid is blasphemy

Joshua Whaley

You gotta scroll to the bottom or click latest episodes under library

chriswavy

aye did y’all see drake debuting 9/10 songs from CLB inside the billboard top 10 on the hot 100 ,NINE , 9 9INE , the other 11 charting within the top 30 but that 9INE is crazy

chriswavy

Whenever the topic of cole comes up I swear Terrance turns into Skip Bayless.

Noel

Honestly Terrance if you don’t fw cole just say it bro 😂 you just sat up here and said CLB and Donda are miles ahead of the off season 😂😂 and why, because you “didn’t know what you were gonna get” for one that doesn’t mean it’s a way better project because it’s unpredictable and two what did you expect drake to do on CLB that yo ass never heard before the album is literally titled Certified Lover Boy, we knew what Drake we were getting, it wasn’t unpredictable at all😂😂 don’t get me wrong CLB and Donda are 🔥 but like Terrell said, you would never let cole get away with half the corny shit that was on both those projects. Just say you don’t like cole fr at this point bro

more jam sessions for sure

i wish there was time stamps, can you plz incorporate in the future if that's possible. 👑👑

I agree with Terrence Kanye and Drake make art. J Cole is just a rapper. Kanye goes from sample rapping on Graduation then a gospel rap on Donda. Drake goes from soft vibes with Take Care to cut throat on IYRTITL and tropical dancehall on Views. J Cole boring as fuck and has a formula. Cole could never make TLOP or Take Care. Ye and Drizzy can do everything Cole do but thank God they don’t cause Cole so damn boring.

Idris

solid album just not aoty material

Pakalutupaki

Lol you don’t play songs to impress your girl. If you want that kind of vibe then hip hop ain’t it. That’s what RnB are. J Cole is a better rapper than Drake in terms of lyrics, delivery etc. and he’s up there with Kanye in the rap game. Do your research. Hip hop is not about make you feel good kinda vibe.

I’m sorry I love cole, BUT j cole don’t got the delivery or vibe that drake and ye give you, that’s just it. You never play cole for vibes for your girl for any situation, it’s mostly for yourself. Drake and ye 6/7 trick ponies, cole like a 2/3 trick pony.

Gavin

Bro Terrance be making it seem that J Cole is a bum😂😂😂😂😂 On CLB and Donda both good albums had a lot of corny bars. Especially with Drake we let him get a way with a lot of corny bars like “Got so many chains, I feel like CHAIN-ing Tatum” that was terrible 😂😂😂😂😂

Nigato

Aye that tech corner been struggling bro😂😂😂

Robinson

Directors and studios really need to think about having trauma experts on set during the making of traumatic types of art. It’s a lot to take in. The actors are literally channeling the past. RIP to Michael K. Williams. I hope he’s able to find some comfort now.

Joy Fennell

The disrespect is always high whenever J Cole is mentioned lol it’s outlandish at this point 🤣🤣

Saints Nation

OK...woman here btw lol The whole *if you want thing* reads as complacency to me. I would take that as my time with you is not seen as a priority or of value. I'd rather you tell me if you're busy at the moment. Also, if I'm suggesting to come see you, obviously I want to see you lol so the if you want thing is redundant. Lastly, the ideal way to use *if you want* is only if you're offering something. Example: "Hey, you can come over here/I can go over there if you want". That's the received better. And no, I don't speak for all women...just my experience.

A. Shawneé

Terrance saying CLB was leaps and bounds better than the Off Season was top tier hate. It’s clear this man don’t go back and watch the reactions after the videos cuz Cole been shutting him up since KOD lol. We got 3 years of evidence

Justice

Any Body in the Comments, How u guys feel about the Baby Keem Album?

RXL 90

10TH TIMES THE CHARM - TOP OF DA MORNIN, TOP OF DA MORNIN, TOP OF DA MORNIN This is a request for the beginning of the podcast if yall interested: I need yall to either go to the channel i linked and pick a song that catches yall eye or click the link that I picked that I think u might like, and i want your first reaction to it on the pod if that is cool with you guys :) and If one of you have heard it already then the other person reaction will be fine too as long as you guys are lit then I'm happy Channel https://youtube.com/channel/UC6PYIsW-Cq2OOw8iOucmo7A Selected songs https://youtu.be/OKp8HNRXSbc https://youtu.be/XQnG_4TxqfE https://youtu.be/lQOh6XqxhRg https://youtu.be/rVVoxq_paf4 https://youtu.be/scQe9cROUHc https://youtu.be/nltT4up0Oc0 https://youtu.be/maJT6POXZvw https://youtu.be/lQOh6XqxhRg https://youtu.be/boWGpYBkzgQ And my personal fave: https://youtu.be/PpTCamj1FnQ

RXL 90

9️⃣

Zy’lan

Was waiting for the visual. Keep it up.

Joshua Lynch

I always wait for the visuals.

Ferdz

Why can’t i find the newer episodes on Apple podcast

Been here for every episode

Sirafino Davis