Young Royals 3x2 REACTION; we're camping and struggling.
Added 2024-04-30 04:20:07 +0000 UTCguys, I'm going to need happiness for more than just five seconds of my life, you feel me?? we started off so strong with that phone call, it was giving me all the feels, I was swooning. Wille joined the choir and Simon was so happy and giggly and I was swooning. Wille stuck up for Simon and DROPPED august, and I was SWOONING. anyway. that song that Simon posted 😭 guys, I love him. I really love him, he's so pure. and revolution!? I'm so sorry, I'm losing it over here. anyway, I thought this camping trip would bring so much fun and happiness and it did, but of course, we had to end with a fight and now that phone call, WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR OUR FUTURE!? I'm scared 🩶
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Password; revolution
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What's even more fun (for me anyway), the Swedish word for a quick kiss on the cheek is "puss." Pronounced pretty much as you would expect. Which is what Simon and Wille say to each other. A full-on kiss is "kyss" which is pronounced (more or less) shiss.
Dennis Verner
2024-05-02 12:25:52 +0000 UTCAn argument can be made that Simon could have looked at Wille's perspective in this argument and noticed his pressures in the job he is referring to. But I would say that Simon deserves to be heard more in this moment. It's his working class friends that have been belittled in this elitist space. He is clearly upset by the encounter. A conversation can be had that when you hold the privilege and power in the topic being discussed, it is your job to listen and understand the other party. At a later time and different context, Wille could bring up this disagreement and help Simon re-evaluate it to show where Wille was coming from. I would suggest that at this time, it was Simon's turn to be heard. Away from Hillerska in a neutral space where Simon is not always getting bombarded by snide remarks and micro-aggressions from upper-class kids, it would be much easier for Simon to see Wille's perspective. I think Simon does a good job of seeing through all the class stuff to who Wille is as a person who doesn't subscribe to the superior mindset of his peers. It's why he chose Wille as a friend in the first place. But Simon has to work at it with all the noise around him. Wille also has to work at staying true to that value as he is sucked further into the Crown Prince role. Simon is emersed in Wille's world all day at school. He is learning the specifics of Wille's pressures by experiencing some of them himself this season and from what Wille tells him. But of the two of them, the one whose world view is being heard the most is Wille's. Wille only gets to encounter the lower class perspective at this camp party, at Rosh's football game, a walk through Bjärstadt, at Simon's house, and from Simon himself when he speaks up. The rest of the time, it's his world they're in as a couple. This is not to say that a common ground for discussion could not be found between the Hillerska kids and the Marieberg kids. They need to care enough about each other first to be able to listen to understand. To find their differences interesting and work to find what their mutual likes are. Plus, spend much more time in more inclusive environments.
Dionne Lakey
2024-05-02 07:03:58 +0000 UTCLOL, thanks. I never thought the shh was ok. I just agreed it was probably a learned behavior. We already saw the queen does not like Wille to have his own opinions.
Pam R
2024-05-02 03:35:51 +0000 UTCI just want a silly fun time and I am constantly baited by this show 🤣 It really is like 'look how cute we can be and see all these feelings you're feeling? now watch us rip that away for a bit' 😭 I do love it though so I can't really complain, even if it's painful I LOVE your recap of the positives, there really is so much to love, especially Wille ending his calls by saying KISS 😭🩶
Ryann Rodkey
2024-05-02 03:28:24 +0000 UTCyou make a great point! I did notice the camera cutting to Alexander and I think I just brushed it off as being him bc he didn't experience that video and felt like it wasn't something that was actively talked about, however, I could absolutely see it being him! 🩶
Ryann Rodkey
2024-05-02 03:26:02 +0000 UTCahhh thank you so much for your kind words, I love this show so much 😭 Edvin literally never misses. and yes, you put it so well with the pulling rank over Simon! I think that's why it was so shocking bc we never saw that behavior from him even in really stressful arguments they had in past seasons so it really felt like a slap to the face! I don't think anyone will understand the immense amount of joy I feel when people link me to Omar things 🤣 I'm so excited to watch! 🩶
Ryann Rodkey
2024-05-02 03:24:33 +0000 UTCthere's literally nothing I can add here because you put this all so perfectly so I'm just going to leave this here and I agree 10000000%. wonderfully put 🩶
Ryann Rodkey
2024-05-02 03:21:39 +0000 UTCI'm sure I need these badly 🩶 anything from Omar will cheer me up 💀
Ryann Rodkey
2024-05-02 03:18:01 +0000 UTClistennnnnnn, we all know how I feel about Simon so we don't have to get into it but I do agree with you. my man came in HOT for that argument 🤣 for literally no reason. I think if he approached it in a calmer way, Wille would've been interested in learning and he would've taken it. now, as my Simon apologist self, in no way was the 'shhh' acceptable when speaking with your partner a.k.a Simon, the most perfect human, so I was really disappointed to see that. but they both messed up here 🤣🩶 (also, no one will be yelled out here, I'll fight for you 🩶)
Ryann Rodkey
2024-05-02 03:17:46 +0000 UTCI totally agree with you here! Wille was not trying to be malicious or diminish anyones struggles, but trying to relate and make conversation with them and he just doesn't realize the way it can come off so I am happy that Simon called him on it, although, I do feel like Simon came at it a little hot - but Simon is life and I will love him forever 🤣 the shushing had me SHOOK. Simon being like 🤨 was everything. Wille absolutely could have said soooo many things to deescalate the situation instead of shushing him. I was like oh Wille no.... 🤣 but love the parallel to the way his mom treats him and silences him! great point! Wille constantly breaks my heart. the fact that he is having to carry everything by himself and is only ever called if they need something from him breaks my heart 😭
Ryann Rodkey
2024-05-02 03:12:14 +0000 UTCClassic Young Royals. Gotta throw in a dramatic twist at the end, especially if things are going well (wheeee!) I actually love that the underlying themes of classism and racism that have always been present in Young Royals are being openly discussed this season. It just confirms that the writers don't do anything without reason. They were planting seeds all along. As for Simon and Wilhelm, it's interesting to look at their overall journey. Season 1 explored them falling in love (in secret) and we saw what "could be" and the purity of their relationship. In Season 2 after the breakup, the show explored accountability and depth of feelings, and if they could actually let each other go. By Season 3, they have actively chosen each other, going public, despite all the obstacles...and it seems to be exploring can they be Simon and Wilhelm in these circumstances, with their class differences, and the public criticism, and the pressure of the Royal Court, etc. Can they find a way to may it work? Can they love each other while still being true to themselves? How do they do that? We shall see...the journey certainly won't be easy because this is Young Royals 🥴 It's hard to see the positive sometimes when there's so much drama, so let us highlight some of the beautiful moments that we did get this episode, because there were actually a lot: -The intimate phone call and goodbye "kiss" -Wilmon agreeing that they'd find a way to stay together even if the school closed -WILLE JOINING THE CHOIR AND THAT KISS "I like listening to you sing" -Wilmon being cute in gym class -Wille standing up for Simon & Sara and August getting pummelled -Simon being talented AF, writing a song, being brave enough to share -Mutual I love yous -All the looks between Simon & Wille during the camping trip -Wille picking up Simon, dancing together, sharing a hammock like a happy couple -BONUS: Felice being brave enough to speak up about her experiences with racism -Sarah learning to drive, possibly repairing her relationship with her dad -Felice offering to share a tent with Simon and Wille (we need more of this trio)
AngelaTeacher
2024-04-30 18:24:13 +0000 UTCYes, in the scenes when anyone being bullied is denied, the camera is on Alexander. Clues.
Dennis Verner
2024-04-30 17:49:26 +0000 UTCInteresting theory on Alexander. Speaking of Erik, him being a 3rd year when August was 1st year would make him at least 4 years older than Wille, and I think this explains a lot. It makes sense that Wille would put him on a pedestal and look up to him so much. It would also explain why he felt so protected by Erik, and why he thinks he knew his brother well, but didn't really know anything about Erik's life at Hillerska or his love life (as he mentions to Nils in S3E1).
AngelaTeacher
2024-04-30 17:43:54 +0000 UTCI have no proof (and there won't be any) but I have the feeling that Alexander was the one who talked to the press. He wouldn't have experienced the porn video in his initiation but could have found out from someone. I remember posting, somewhere early on, when the sordid initiation press came out, that wouldn't Erik have been 3rd year when August was 1st year? And then didn't think anymore about it.
Dennis Verner
2024-04-30 17:09:37 +0000 UTCOoh I love that "pulling rank" to label that particular power dynamic.
Dionne Lakey
2024-04-30 11:29:08 +0000 UTCive watched a lot of reactors react to young royals - cause im obsessed with it. you are by far the most entertaining, invested and great at analysing and summing up each episode while also throwing your thoughts and opinions in. you're a legend! i think the "SHUSH" was one of the moments in this season where fans were really angry and taken aback by it haha. as always, edvin did an incredible job in conveying that in such a harsh way.. but it was so effective at achieving what wille wanted in that instant. it's weird because i think everyone was shocked at how rude it came across and i'm probably wrong - but it seemed like the first time that in their own relationship bubble.. he'd try to exert at a power dynamic over simon. obviously, there's always been the fact he's a prince and the demands of the royal court - but i don't think we really ever see him "pull rank" against simon which is what makes their relationship so endearing and unique. in their own relationship bubble, class isn't an issue to either of them - they love each other for who they are. i see other people have provided links to interviews - i know how much you love simon as a character and omar.. there's this hilarious interview (which has no season 3 spoilers as it was filmed before season 3 released. it's a light-hearted and funny interview. isn't in english though - so requires subs to be on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hyuuK7BY3I cant wait for the rest of the season and the reaction of the "young royals forever" doco.
LM-Entertainment Australia
2024-04-30 11:10:25 +0000 UTCSo I think Felice and Simon would be able to relate in this episode. Trying to explain to your elitist, white friends about their privilege can be exhausting. In Felice's case, when the girls have an awkward pause and Stella just comments on her being beautiful, missing the point, Felice just gives up and changes the subject. Stella means well to cheer Felice up, but in that statement she is saying that she thinks that Felice's hair type is beautiful whilst ignoring the superior hierarchical European beauty standards that makes the white House Mistress police the only Black girl's hairstyle. In the same way as Stella, Wille means well in trying to break the awkward pause around the fire and comment on his own work he's doing in the summer, but he misses Simon's point that in that conversation, the elitist privilege of the kids being able to go to New York easily was only made worse by Wille comparing his type of work to Rosh's. Yes, both are types of work but one clearly has a hierarchy over another. The same way the Hillis teens holiday plans have a hierarchy over the Bjärstadt kids. They then start to ridicule the working class kids when they leave the fire. Simon, unlike Felice tries to go deeper and explain the difference to Wille but Wille doubles down with the money Simon got from August, as if August's penalty/reparations to Simon for ruining his public reputation, puts Simon on a superior level to Rosh and Ayub. Felice's conversation was gentler because of the context she was in when they had the discussion. Simon's conversation is coming in the middle of an argument. Wille and Simon are already conflictedly discussing how the Marieberg students were asked to leave the camp because one of them had a misunderstanding with Wille's bodyguard about who he was taking photos of. Being told as a group to leave the elitist kids' party seemed like saying they didn't belong there. This is why everyone is so uncomfortable before Wille and Simon even get in the tent. Simon is already upset with the upper class kids. His tone is angry about the whole situation. As Felice says, "what is internal and what is external". As to the shushing thing. There is another layer of nuance here about cultural stereotypes. It's about tone policing people of colour. Quieting down the latino boy as he has an argument with you ... it's hard to explain - it's just easier for Simon to roll over and not say anything. What Felice did in the end - changing the subject. Race and classism intersected in an interesting way in this episode. Class is not necessarily about the amount of money one has compared to another, it's about social status. It's about day to day lifestyles and who gets to be internal (Nils and Felice because of their money) or external (Nils is not the first born son of a noble, neither is Felice so they can't be in the inner circle). Class isn't something you can change because you were born into it (same as your race). But recognising the privileges society gives you is what Felice and Simon are calling out in this episode.
Dionne Lakey
2024-04-30 07:35:59 +0000 UTCAww don't be sad Ryann. Here, to cheer you up are 2 official Netflix Nordic Omar videos First one - get cozy with Omar: https://youtu.be/TXhLgY8fwFw?si=MNNcVaeWW1J7Kgf8 Second one is a pep talk from Omar: https://youtu.be/nV2SL0YxTrA?si=zDRKDpjFB64--Hb3
Dionne Lakey
2024-04-30 07:04:38 +0000 UTCI agree with you 100%. I think Simon is at this point as ignorant or oblivious about Wilhelm's position and struggles as Wilhelm is about Simon's. And while I think Wilhelm is kind of trying to understand and connect also with Simon's friends (not always in the smoothest way), Simon is very opinionated about the Royal Family and monarchy and so he dismisses a lot of Wilhelm's issues related to his position. Yes, Wilhelm doesn't need to work to be able to buy a new Playstation or clothes that he likes but he still has to do it, otherwise he receives crap from the court, his mother and his whole situation and the pressure on him just gets worse. So I personally don't see a big difference there, it's not like Simon and his friends will starve if they don't get a summer job. The "shhh" thing was bad though, I would have reacted to that much more in Simon's place, deffinitely more than to the whole summer job discussion. Well... they're sixteen. 🙂
Dorabella
2024-04-30 06:16:01 +0000 UTCThanks. Sorry I've just seen some intense people in the fandom. Which is why I just keep my fandom to watching others enjoy it for the first time.
Pam R
2024-04-30 06:12:30 +0000 UTCaww that last line haha do not worry, everybody’s opinions matter and should be respected! i actually do agree with u as well. i love simon to bits but i do think he is often “head-strong”, which can be both good and bad. while there was some good in it by him pointing out the ignorance within wille’s statements, there’s also the bad in the way he approached this as u said. i think it would have not escalated into the argument it did if simon had approached it differently.
Roj
2024-04-30 05:55:19 +0000 UTCI probably don't have the views most do with this episode but I agree with what Roze said about that the shh was probably a learned behavior. But here's where I don't follow most on this. I feel Simon went into that looking to argue. And when Simon and Wille disagree, they argue, loudly. I think while Wille is everything he said he is, entitled, privileged and usually can't see the forest for the trees. But I also think Simon is exactly the same just opposite. I think Wille was just trying to be friendly and make conversation. There was a way to point out the differences without purposely hurting each other which is what they did because they both know each other's weaknesses. This is just my opinion and I know it's not a popular one so please don't yell at me, I will probably cry.
Pam R
2024-04-30 05:29:21 +0000 UTCclassic young royals, just when we think we are gonna have some peace and happiness! i really like that this season is having discussions about topics that have existed throughout the series such as class and racism, but haven't been explicitly dealt with in the way it is now. my comments are probably gonna be so long for each episode this season, but its because this season gives SO much to discuss! things got very heated very quickly in that tent, and to be honest, it makes sense to me. simon and wille have never really upfront confronted the clash in their class status up until this point. and the thing about having these conversations is that, when u are a teen, u often get heated very quickly (coming from personal experience lol) which makes it harder to discuss these serious kind of topics without it blowing up. i love that simon will call out any type of ignorance or privilege that wille does not grasp about himself. simon does not just ignore stuff or let it slide because he is his boyfriend, which is why i respect simon so much. it is unfortunate, because wille means well. we know that wille is not an elitist prick (i mean, thats one of the reasons simon fell for him), but it also does not erase the fact that wille is inevitably going to be ignorant about aspects of class and his privilege. simon had a point in that wille cannot just act like his crown prince school is the same as having a job like rosh, but i think it's clear that wille was just trying to relate to them (the actor for wille said this himself as well). good intentions behind it, but still a level of ignorance to it. the shushing was foul LOL! i love that u pointed out that wille doing that felt like simon was being silenced, because i read discussions about this scene and many ppl attributed wille doing that as a reflection of his mother. his mother has acted in a very similar way, telling wille to stop or be quiet whenever he rants to her like in s1 ep 1 and s2 ep 1. i think wille is so used to being silenced like that by his mom that now he ends up doing it to others. the side eye from simon was so funny. he was like, have u lost ur damn mind?😂 though, i do *sort of* get wille's point behind it cause simon kinda got confrontational and i wouldn't want the other ppl outside of our tent to know our business either lol simon's reaction to the positive comments from his song was everything. so adorable. and that locker scene between wille and simon, WHEW! i just get so much butterflies. wille asking why his mom can't just call him...i swear i need to find this boy new parents NOW. i understand that she is going through mental health issues, but making everybody just give ur son updates here and there when all he wants is to hear the sound of ur voice. and then wille saying "is it my fault" at the end broke my heart.
Roj
2024-04-30 05:22:04 +0000 UTC
