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A look back and forward...

  

Hi all, 


I wanted to reflect some on this year and give you all an update on plans going forward. 


I also have to confess, I took the past week off from 3DX, did nothing with it but back at it today and Tyler set will be a Patreon only set for you all this weekend!


2016:


My goals this year were focused on 3 main things, in no particular order... 


First creating a new set each month so whatever pledge you have would at least gain you access to 12 image sets. I think I hit 11 with one more oncoming (Tyler’s set). I hit this goal and increased image sets by 4 from last year. 


Second was to learn C4D and VRay and do at least one set. I did and will have 3 sets in Vray once Tyler’s set is released. I have no motivation or reason to go back to Octane despite having 6 Titan GPUs :-/ 


Third was to keep up with Patreon commissions. This is where I slipped and over committed my time for sure. I am behind on commissions and once I catch up on the full set commissions I plan to eliminate that option for the foreseeable future. The one image a month will stay but I may again reduce the number. Everyone I oe commissions to will get there content just bear with me.


Going Forward 2017:


I have some thoughts and some goals here. 


First thoughts:

I am considering releasing full sets and animation on Patreon only. No doubt I will leave some $ on the table but the market is so saturated with people throwing sets together that I am not sure I want to be in that rat race. The sales are low last few sets and the sets are posted on the Internet with in a week of release. On the other hand the Patreon only sets I have done are not on the Internet at all (yet) – thank you for not posting this stuff.

RPG Game is a real possibility, I have started one simple one but have not had time to really focus on it. The idea would be the game would have lower resolution images but the full resolution images would accompany the game so you get both. Still mulling this one over.


My main goal and focus starting in Jan:


First, I have to replace this PC I lost, I need two systems!


Second, Animation has to be done. I am looking at a way to accomplish this workflow using C4D and Vray. This will be my main focus in 2017 the image sets will still happen but my feeling is the sets will decrease in total releases while some sort of animation will be released, perhaps cut the images in half on sets and release some animations with the sets. Still thinking this over and still looking at where to focus the learning. 

Thoughts and feedback welcome.

Comments

CAn you link me LOP - hows you rjava scripting? Lets talk.

3Dzen

Hey, I don't know what you have in mind for the RPG game, but if it's something like what LOP team is doing I'll be glad to help you with coding if needed.

not 100% gone just prob first half 2017 not going to acept additional ones, its in best intrest for all :) I can catch up and I can learn etc...

3Dzen

Sure i would not mind seeing what you have coming up next because i'm a bit busy at work these days.

Cabal

Thanks for 2016 & good luck in 2017. Sad to hear about the $250 commission was hoping to get another one in the new year but i understand why you had to stop them for now.Trying new things & technology is never a bad thing the only down side is it will slow you down a bit but its worth it in the long run i will say with the short time i have been here i have noticed an improvement in you're models and that comes with trying new tech. The RPG game most likely will not be for me but i'm sure others will like it so i don't have a problem with it for the animation sorry don't have a glue about them the only ones i really watch are FPZ3D and they are fight animations and you get about 4 a year.Like Nebula 77 i will not say no to seeing more off the Erin & Vikki women especially Miss Natalie. Thanks for the great work Zen.

Cabal

What about a progress schedule on sets in progress and a schedule for at least what's next would that help?

3Dzen

Great coments Jack, thanks for the support and the insight

3Dzen

:) thanks and yes.... DDH II

3Dzen

Good idea and yea i need to follow up on the pose contest...

3Dzen

One addition: What I consider very motivating for Patreons is a poll system. You went into that direction with your collection of poses we suggested and following vote but probably created a lot of admin work for you with that approach (we wait for the vote on the final top 3 scenes😜). Supro does it less complex: 2-3 times a month he asks his patreons to post simple suggestions in words. Then he decides which he realizes (no democratic complex voting -you are the master, the boss, the director who picks the choice). Simple, straightforward and very motivating because although he has multiple patreons there participate often just 5-10 so your chance your ide/wish gets real is not bad. And it gives you something close to a commission (not as detailed to your wish as a real commission but basically your 2-3 wished chars of the artist in a set-up/scene you envision). Good deal! And if my suggestion is not considered? Hey I can propose it next round again until I win. So if you just save 1 set over the year that gives you capacity (at least regarding number of pics)for such polls. And you would have some updates beyond your sets. So even if there is no Carina set for 9 months there might win a poll scene/pose with Carina in. Furthermore it's a great way to have some fancy crossovers that otherwise would not happen ( Erin and Mave double teaming Tyler for example).

Nebula77

Really good feedback. Took a while to read through Nebula, but some really nice suggestions. I'd prefer fewer sets spread out over two months as well. A few 10-15 second animated loops - more to show 3DZen's animation progress rather than to sell a set. Dizzydills used to provide 2 or 3 small animations (no sound) with each set. I always liked that little extra. I agree with Nebula - a game set like High Tide Harbor is a pass for me too. I'm just looking for images, thank you :) Something like G4E set the bar, but those types of 3D erotica are very few, and far in between. Took like 3 years to develop that. The team at Studiofow makes interesting animations, but again, few and far in between. The most balanced image/animation set I ever saw was Jared999D SOB series. You had a really good start animating Carina, Rachel, and Sonya early this year, but petered out by springtime. Anyway, quality improves always and I'd like to see the popular girls in a regular set rotation with new stuff occasionally in between. Animations on a progress schedule either in a set or separately. Realistically, take on a giant animated vid if you have a team in place with a clearcut plan to execute it in a timely way. And, as always, get crackin on DDH II will ya!!! :-D Merry Christmas Master Zen!

Vernacular

Wow, some well written feedback. I'm an image guy rather then short film loops. I tend to view an image set many times but usually view a small film but thrice. Your sets develop a fine story line which is key for my enjoyment. Once watched a MongoBongo set of seven images which captured a whole story line complete. Maybe some smaller sets are the answer. Glad to hear your not running into the pirating problem that struck X3Z lately. Very sorry to hear about the lack of sales. The store at Affect3D may be getting a lot of new content but not much of it interests me. Some 3D artist don't have a feeling for it. Images seem flat and lifeless. In the early days of searching for material (pornhub) I discovered a website (8muses which was printed over a Blackadder image) which showcased about maybe a thousand different artists. I found your stuff there which lead me to Affect3D and then you. Do you support them or are they whats called a pirate site? Please feel free to edit this post if you choose. As someone who works in the sales industry I am curious how new potential customers find you or sites like Affect3D. Tumbler is a good source but I discovered them only recently.

Jack Pinder

I also would like to thank you for the high quality work and lots of content you provide us. You improved quality over the year exploring new technology and also introduced a lot of new characters. Here my opinion and feedback is: Stablize now what you have - I am sure it is not only me who got a Patreon for your characters and sets that made you popular and a 3DX artist to be recognized. Therefore we loyal fans of your heroines like Faeria, Carina and for me with the Futa Fetish: Erin and Miss Nathalie. The fresh blood with the new chars is great and I am sure Tori and Ashley, Sonya or Gabby won more than just one heart. But lets not forget your girls of the early days- refresh them with new technology and we salute you for a next Erin & Vikki part, Carina nightmare set, Demon DOll house 2, next Dun Ragon. I consider animation to be too timeconsuming for the output you get with it. Miros outstanding Girlfreinds I took more than a year - the part 2 with the 2 DLCs was ~2 years. Too much for just one guy to manage. If you want to in order to keep motivated with learning exploring new things then do it(and no question first Carina animation was excellent) but me as a customer will always prefer a new set rather than a couple of minutes of animation. Lord Kvento did a great compromise with Futasession set consisting of ~100 pics and 9 animation loops with really amazing quality. I also proposed to you earlier to shorten your sets a little in number of pics in order to be able to offer a wider range of themes and to have regular new parts of your established chars. I think thats the right direction. Not every set will suit everyone (your shadows of darkness sets are too brutal for me to call them arousing other might not be in the futa stuff - but hey the other 80% of your offer is still great! And finally the game? Sorry if this now sounds a little harsh but I bought the hightide harbour from Gazukull and honestly: Why shall I play that 'game' ? It is as easy you dont can really fail, the humor in it is limited, the dialogue options mildly said 'limited'. Sorry Gazu but get rid of all that game around it and sell us the pictures of the sex scenes. That is all you look for anyway when 'playing' such a game: Yes there are games where erotic scenes etc belong to but they are there not just the purpose but a sidepart of the story and achievement (e.g. Witcher 2 and Witcher 3). Nobody can seriously expect anything coming close to a million dollar SW projectcreated by 100s of people from just a couple of 3DX guys but for me - well either I want to get aroused/fap off and go for the 3DX porn or I want to play a challenging/funny/whatever I like in games - full computer game.

Nebula77

thanks for feedback exactly what im hoping many patreons do provide thier feedback. Animations for me next year will be 10-15 sec loops not 20 min movies :) maybe 2018 ;)

3Dzen

Firstly I would like to say that you have been consistently giving us, your patreons quality work. I can imagine it being very time consuming. Nevertheless instead of decreasing the number of images why not give yourself more time to produce them? As an example instead of delivering every month maybe you could give a full set every 2 months with possibly even more images per set, in between the months you could provide a WIP. Secondly maybe you could add animations to these news sets you make. Such as let's say 5-10 images followed with and small animation loop then 5-10 more images per set? Animations could be a nice change of things for you but honestly I have no idea how long it will take to produce an animation, If other patreons are anything to get idea from they usually take 3-6 months to produce 20 minute long animations. Again maybe make small loops instead of hugely time consuming animations? Which can again be added to new sets. Lastly you know I am all for the rpg. I think it would bring in lots of new patreons, and possibly have less work for you. Since many rpg makers in patreon provide 5-10 images per month or even less.(I do know rpg is not just images that they have to work on scripts as well but still) Anything you do you got my support, as long as I have some disposable income :)

LOLGame

Yes it was a download on the post for her set, I will send out a note to all PAtreons with all links now also.

3Dzen

thanks for keeping us up to date. btw did patreons recieve the faelwen set in full? cus i never got it and i see that its on affect3dstore now


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