Dragon Ball Super 92 Full Reaction

Tbh, Freeza is the best part of the Tournament imo

Silxvi

Yea it's still controversial to this day about the tingly back super saiyan formula lol that's one of the reasons there's a slight disconnect between DB & DBZ fans vs Super fans lol

Asuka Yousei 妖精帝國

The way i viewed the tingle thing is stuff like Chakras but them not knowing the term cause stuff like that is very important in asian culture

Knight Spearhead

If only they were good about intro spoilers completely.

k c

I think mishandling Buu would’ve pissed off a lot of people. Its definitely the better choice to not involve him rather than fodderize him

Hohoho

Ah, nice. Didn't know that about Buddhism. Makes more sense now including that. Thanks! 🙂

Bethany and Ken

Sometimes you need an aggressive Goku 😏

Bethany and Ken

Love a good pros and cons list 🙂

Bethany and Ken

😜

Bethany and Ken

Yup. Those sneaky writers 😝

Bethany and Ken

They could've just had him say no to begin with. That he wasn't interested or something. Just was too big of a tease, but it did set up the Frieza surprise 🤗

Bethany and Ken

Which would’ve been great based off the stakes. You could write him as useful until he’s sent to the bleachers early on. At least, we saw some cool stuff from Buff Buu and his with Wolfie. Should’ve had Buff in Sparking Zero.

k c

Buu being benched is kind of a let-down but it works. He can regenerate, absorb people, heal the team, etc. If he was in the tournament, they wouldn't have a struggle at all.

Drifty W

Yeah the back-tingle stuff wasn't a good choice by Toei in my opinion, but then again Goten and Trunks first turned Super Saiyan with no explanation, so I guess there's that. And yes Ken, definitely weak sauce for them to yet again cut out Buu from any action in the series. As much as I like Frieza as a villain, Buu could've at least got some spotlight, especially when they cut him out from the Universe 6 tournament

J Sal

Except it was me lol :). I mentioned it because Ken was worried about it taking forever.

Serpent King

Broly the Legendary super Saiyan!!!!!

chuckie 12

The intro did a great job of duping everyone for real into thinking Buu was the 10th member

Hohoho

Yeah they shouldn’t watch it

Sean Carroll

True dragonball fans appreciate Yamcha. I, my mom and sister were disgusted with what they did with him compared to the original series

Sean Carroll

The tingling back thing wasn't from toriyama as Caulifla didn't tingle her back to achieve Super Saiyan in the manga so most likely toei added that tingle thing for the anime Toriyama has mentioned in a interview about what is needed to turn into a Super Saiyan and that is a lot of S cells which is produced when one is brought up in a gentle and peaceful environment like goten,trunks and you could put the Universe 6 Saiyans in that as well who live in a peaceful society and toriyama mentioned once a Saiyan S cells reach a certain amount, a trigger such as anger will explosively increase the S cells and cause a change and become Super Saiyan but he also mentioned other factors as well like the offspring of a Saiyan naturally inheriting a lot S cells such as goten, trunks and I'm guessing you could fit any other strongly gifted Saiyan in this as well like Caulifla as she was mentioned to be naturally talented in the manga Also the roshi thing in the anime for the last couple of episodes wasn't in the manga so it wasn't from toriyama, toei added it.

Zaid

24:16 Jinx. You owe me a soda for that “3 days” lol.

k c

So let’s see the pros and cons of Frieza and Buu. Frieza is a god damn power house. Able to rival Goku in his SSB form (granted not for long and it was when Goku was still getting used to the form). But still at that point Buu is nothing more than an inconvenience rather than a threat. And should the worse come, Frieza could assist against the stronger opponents since Toppo isn’t even the strongest opponent in the tournament. That said, if he still has his stamina problem, he won’t last long. The tournament is only 44 minutes so he might just make it, but still. Buu may be weaker, but has much more versatility. If he’s able to defeat some opponents, then he could potentially observe them and again their strengths which could potentially allow him to reach the higher level of powers. We have seen that the absorptions doesn’t kill the opponents, just knock them out. So when the tournament is almost over, Buu could just eliminate himself, along with everybody he absorbed. Buu was also the team healer, so instead of senzu beans Buu could have healed them. Buu himself is hard to damage, being able to almost instantly regenerate. That said he is also incredibly dumb. If the tournament started and he picked a fight with the toughest opponents, he would be instantly knock out, wasting his slot. He also gets mad, and when does, he loses control so he might accidentally kill one of his opponents, eliminating him on the spot. If he was willing to kill Beerus for pudding he would surely have killed for less.

Ash

Its probably the sapphic in me but I love Kale, she really is such an adorable character, in my eyes at least lol. Caulifla can be a lot to handle, she comes off as an aggressive Goku.

Cynergy

I'd say another thing about the tingling back thing, is that it actually is a call back to Buddhism which states that a lot of your emotional energy (in this case it'd be anger) derives from you back specifically. Plus these Saiyan's had different experiences from ours including the fact that in their base form, they are much stronger than goku and others saiyans were before they found out about super saiyan

Jalen Collier

Sad Yamcha turned into such a "joke" cause when you get to watch OG Dragon Ball, hopefully you will see why people love Yamcha as a characters so much. He has some great moments and is in one of my favorite fights of all time in the DB universe.

MajinK54

You see, I don't know if that would count as "killing" or not, so idk if they would let it fly. Could have led to some wild scenarios if they did though.

JT

I would just wait or not react to it at all, that trailer has some spoilers for upcoming characters in super.

MajinK54

Imagine buu absorbing everyone lol

Moises Martinez

The ONLY way I can try and make sense of the "we gotta wrap this up" with the super saiyans is ..I guess they're already at the end of their own stories and just never got the chance to activate it 😭. Like a buu saga goku who never went super saiyan. Ey. This part was kinda wonky but they pick up the hype don't worry.

Jaylon Carrington

The person who told them that may have been trying to through them off. Makes the Frieza reveal extra surprising. Or they coulda forgot fr idk

JT

I don't get why people are so resistant to the idea that Saiyans that live in a comparatively free and civil society would have an easier time understanding their bodies than Saiyans that have been kept ignorant and weak for centuries, perhaps even millennia, and that the only reason they did not know about Super Saiyan was because they never needed it as a collective until now, because their base fighting strength was more than enough to keep them free from tyrants like Frieza. U6 Saiyans being fortunate enough to have grown in their society doesn't take away from the achievements of those that were able to rise up from nothing or even less than nothing like U7 Saiyans. But then, this is a shonen, and shonen often try to sell this idea that hard work is better than talent and privilege, but they always end up writing themselves into corners that only secret talents and privileges can get them out of and I'm okay with DBS owning up to that, because at the end of the day being a Saiyan is already a hack, and the ability to transform into a Super Saiyan is a hack on top of the hack. Krilling, Yamcha and Tien could work as hard as Goku and Vegeta; get as angry as them and they would never achieve the levels of power a Saiyan could with the same amount of effort. The original Dragonball was probably more faithful to the idea of hard work beats all, but it's been a long time since I've watched it, so I can't even say if the contradictions started with Dragon Ball Z, or if they were always there since Dragon Ball.

Yanpo

The tournament starts in episode 97, not 94.

Serpent King

The afterlife of any universe can be wiped out if a universe is erased so the dead can cease to exist as well as the living.

Cynergy

Agreed

JT

People were LIVID when Buu got benched, but as it turns out, honestly one of the best moves of the arc.

Shadowpunch13

Yeah, like I said people were kinda upset that Buu didn't get to fight again. Didn't help that Toei added in that extra sparring match with thin Buu and his match against Basil (neither were in the manga, so they weren't Toriyama's doing). But honestly, I find the Frieza twist to make for a better story. Buu's moveset can become way too busted in a tournament setting and having Frieza adds intrigue to what is otherwise a pretty basic plot for an arc.

JT

I love Toriyama but sometimes I wish he had done very few interviews, it always leads to complications or nonsense lmao.

Shadowpunch13

As Anakin would say “this is where the fun begins” 😂

Austin Collier

SURPRISE! Hope my fake hyping of Buu up until now didn’t clue you in to him not being a fighter after all. A bit of history: Frieza coming to join team U7 was a big talking point in the community after some supposed leaks had started to come out 2chan saying it would happen. While some of the “leaks” from the user responsible turned out to be BS, they did successfully predict the titles and episode summaries for Eps 94, 97, and 98 down to the letter before becoming public info. This caused serious speculation online because the idea seemed so unreal. Exciting times!

JT

Alex Deleon

Since we’re at a point where lore regarding Super Saiyans is at the forefront, I think it’s the best place to drop this trivia: A 2017 Q&A from Toriyama that came out about 6 months after this episode explained that in order for a Saiyan to turn Super Saiyan, their body must contain something called “S Cells” (kinda like what midichlorians are for the Force in Star Wars). They were cited as being the reason for why U7 Saiyan-Human hybrids have an easier time transforming, as they inherited more S Cells and grew up in a “gentler” environment than the pure blooded U7 Saiyans. This has led to a popular fan theory that the reason U6 Saiyans can master initiate Super Saiyan more quickly is because they evolved differently from U7 Saiyans. U6 Saiyans don’t have tails, were never enslaved by Frieza, and serve as a galactic defense force instead of being space pirates like the U7 Saiyans. All this implies that their environment is generally more peaceful, leading to them holding more S Cells. None of this is ever brought up in anime or manga (honestly Toriyama most likely just came up with it on the spot) but I still find it interesting. I’ll link the full translation for any interested: https://x.com/Herms98/status/936097133731627008

JT

Ah, this episode! This one got controversial. The weird inclusion of this “back tingling” being the spark for Super Saiyan caused a lot of anger, as fans felt it depreciated the impact of Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, and Gohan’s transformations back in DBZ (which were clearly said to have been triggered by rage). An argument against this was that Goten, Trunks, and Gotenks had already had this effect back in the Buu Saga by transforming like it was nothing, but that didn’t matter to those who didn’t like the kids anyway. The tingling combined with the speed that Caulifla managed to turn SS1, among upcoming scenes, has led to some DB fans holding a grudge against the U6 Saiyans that still seems to last to this day. The manga doesn’t bring up the back tingling at all, but rather opts to say that Caulifla managed to master SS1 so fast due to being more talented than U7 Saiyans. I won’t say much more on the matter bc toxic behavior I’ve seen from both sides of the argument from the past 7 years has made me tired of the discussion. It's easily made them some of the most polarizing characters in the franchise. Just mentioning all this as a heads up for when the arguing will most likely spring up again over on YT (if it even takes that long).

JT

It’s always struck me as strange that Universe 3’s use of mechanical team members was never discussed to be in potential violation of the rules (particularly the one about no weapons). U6’s Magetta was an organic being that just happened to be made of metal, but a lot of U3 members are straight up robots. Still like em tho. I’ve always loved Dragon Ball’s robot/cyborg designs.

JT