Dragon Ball Super 121 Full Reaction
Added 2024-12-26 20:00:04 +0000 UTCFull Watch Along Reaction to Dragon Ball Super Episode 121
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Sometimes I wonder if you guys actually pay attention. Why would Universe 11 help Universe 7? Top already said many times that this battle isn't about justice, it's about survival and if Anilasa had knocked all of Universe 7 out, Jiren would have just beaten it and they'd win. Anilasa was trying to destroy the left side of the ring, where Universe 7 was at. That ball wasn't big enough to destroy the whole thing. Like, instead of expending energy to save your enemies who could doom your entire universe, letting them expend energy while you recover from previous battles is literally the only choice. Plus Universe 7 still had 5 while 11 has 3 so they'd need those numbers wittled down as much as possible before the final battle. I don't think it's that complicated of a concept.
Josh Lomax
2025-04-02 04:24:09 +0000 UTCJiren only stepped in after Kale had taken out one of his teammates. He didn't want to run the risk of her taking out any more because then he wouldn't have anyone to fight for him while he meditates. 😴😂
L Roach
2025-01-09 02:14:33 +0000 UTCHonestly this whole thing could've been avoided if they just didn't add the blowing up the arena part haha. The blast looked big enough to wipe out the whole U7 team from the arena so if they just would've kept it at that and had the U7 team using all their energy to push it back this never would've come up haha
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 17:01:16 +0000 UTCI don't believe it was ever said she would destroy the arena, but rather that she would start throwing people out uncontrollably. If you'll recall, Jiren only stepped after one of the Pride Troopers got eliminated by her. It would be quicker/easier to just flick her out of the way than trying to rally every Pride Trooper together for a force field maneuver that isn't really needed. Edit: Vinayak's reason as well. This confusion is what happens when you go the DBS route of not having a lead writer check the cohesiveness of what the writers for separate episodes are doing.
JT
2024-12-30 16:56:16 +0000 UTCAt that point the writers wanted to give a Tease of Jiren's power. Because Kale was smashing Goku in Blue form and causing havoc throughout the Ring and then Jiren Nonchalantly one shotted her. They just wanted to build that excitement and anticipation in the Audience about jiren's character
Vinayak Murthy
2024-12-30 16:52:55 +0000 UTCBut then why did Jiren stop Kale? (other than the fact that it was too early in the tournament and it would be a sucky ending). He stopped Kale because she was going berserk and going to destroy the whole arena right? Why not just create a force field to protect his part of the arena, and his team and then just let the arena get destroyed?
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 16:49:06 +0000 UTCNo I get that part. I was moreso responding about that last parts of DnD's comment, and why it wouldn't necessarily be an "everyone loses" scenario from either U3 or U11's perspective.
JT
2024-12-30 16:48:52 +0000 UTCNot Really. Jiren can create a force field around himself. So Jiren always knew he's going to be fine because even if the monster was going to destroy the Ring jiren's force field can protect the part of the arena on which he is standing on and can still be the last man standing and win the tournament even without interfering
Vinayak Murthy
2024-12-30 16:36:00 +0000 UTCYeah we were told the movies covered the story arc better with the animation and what not as there were some issues early on in production of Super. 🤗
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 16:34:55 +0000 UTCIf that was the case...why didn't he just shield himself when Kale was going crazy. And just let Kale destroy the ring and everybody else and then he could just blast Kale away at last moment? He stepped in because she was a threat to destroy the entire arena right? Which is what is happening right now. 🤗. We understand if he did that this would've been over sooner and not as fun of a match, but since they showed him stepping in then, we kind of expected it now
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 16:33:40 +0000 UTCI always interpreted it as Anilaza being the one to win since he would be the only one who wouldn't "fall" off of the ring. The arena may be gone, but he would still be suspended within the void and not be sent to the the bleachers.
JT
2024-12-30 16:32:29 +0000 UTCYeah at 22:46 Bethany says she gets that when two worlds/universes are battling it makes sense not to get involved. But the moment the arena was being threatened to explode, why not step in then? We get Jiren's confidence in himself to be able to handle anybody, but does he really know the capabilities of both Anilaza and the U7 team that well to know who was going to win that battle? There's just a lot left for us to assume there 🤗
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 16:31:55 +0000 UTCWe meant more so when the arena was going to be blown up and thus everyone would be eliminated. Which seems like a cheap move, kind of like not letting someone finish their transformation, which Toppo was all about defending before. Also it would knock them out so just curious that they would let the whole arena potentially get blown up. Because then would that mean all universes are erased 🤔
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 16:26:46 +0000 UTCAh I think that's where the confusion comes from, they weren't necessarily going to destroy the ring in it's entirety, just basically where everyone in our universe was. So Jiren and crew would be fine regardless.
Chad Mancillas
2024-12-30 16:25:36 +0000 UTCThanks for reminding us about that 🙂
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 16:25:11 +0000 UTCOh man, I wish that was something they put in the anime. Because just that one scene would help explain Jiren SO much better. Him not getting involved because he doesn't want that guilt. Makes him way more likeable.
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 16:24:45 +0000 UTCYeah at 22:46 Bethany explains that she gets not getting involved when its just between two universes because you want them to get eliminated. It was more so when the arena was threatened to explode and be destroyed, thus everyone was going to be eliminated as that was the plan. Kind of like, if I can't win then no one is going to win mentality. 🤗
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 16:23:30 +0000 UTCMeant more so when the arena was going to be blown up so that everyone would be eliminated. We didn't expect them to help out U7 just because they wanted to fight them (that's something Goku does 😜)
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 16:19:02 +0000 UTCYep there is just something about that name 😂
Bethany and Ken
2024-12-30 16:17:39 +0000 UTCNot gonna lie the 3rd universe monster design looked really great!
Jeffrey F
2024-12-29 17:48:34 +0000 UTCThey watched the movies instead of the episodes
Manuel Ruiz
2024-12-28 16:17:11 +0000 UTChey I just join the patreon and I'm trying to watch like the first few reactions of DB super and the anime is not showing up? like ep 1 and ep 15 not popping up
Humanghost
2024-12-28 15:34:47 +0000 UTCHeh, hell yeah we do
JT
2024-12-28 08:28:30 +0000 UTCGuess uh, we know what some of the extra Sparking Zero characters/transformations are gonna be now, huh.
Shadowpunch13
2024-12-28 03:19:52 +0000 UTC“We’re in the end game now”- some wizard. But yeah now we have two universes left standing. The matchup paring will be interesting, to say the least. These are probably some of the best episodes in the arc, as well as some of the best animated.
Ash
2024-12-27 21:15:11 +0000 UTCUnrelated but holy shit, episode 12 of Daima. Won't say why but goddamn did that kick ass. To anyone reading this who hasn't seen it yet, might want to be extra careful of spoilers. Something just happened that's gonna be cause for a lot of spoilery headlines and fanart.
JT
2024-12-27 17:24:56 +0000 UTCI think it's clear that if 7 lost and the blast hit Jiren could shield the ring atleast around him and his teammates and still end up winning the tournament
Jehanzeb Ahmed khan
2024-12-27 17:13:03 +0000 UTCTotally get what you're saying, another perspective mentioned in the previous comments was that U11 could have helped since Anilaza was becoming a threat to both universes especially if it was aiming to take out the ring. Personally I think if Jiren found Anilaza a threat, he would of dealt with it instantly, clearly he didn't find him a threat.
Cynergy
2024-12-27 04:17:49 +0000 UTCI dont understand Beths complaint about Jiren/Uni 11 getting involved. Jiren has said that he is only here to fight the warriors that are capable of putting their universe under pressure (goku/Hit), he clearly thought the universe 3 monster wasnt a threat and that universe 7 would be able to handle it. Also why would they get involved in their enemies fighting each other and tiring each other out ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake" - Napoleon Bonaparte). Im sure if Jiren was truly concerned about his team he would have got involved when it was absolutely necessary.
Sean Carroll
2024-12-27 04:05:29 +0000 UTCthis is peak bro, really showcased the full power of universe 3 and made them far more interesting.
Sean Carroll
2024-12-27 03:58:01 +0000 UTCAbout Beth's Disappointment of jiren not stepping in to help. If you guys Remember after Defeating Goku and Hit how Jiren Began Meditating and Decided that he doesn't need to fight anymore, that's why he's just been a spectator ever since
Vinayak Murthy
2024-12-27 02:23:25 +0000 UTCI understand that, maybe Jiren didn't think the situation was dire enough for him to get involved.
Cynergy
2024-12-27 00:33:19 +0000 UTCAnd we're finally here!! Just letting you two know from this point on its going to be straight up heat!! Oh and btw idk if you guys remember, but on the last episode of DBZ Abridged right before Trunks fights Cell, Cell realizes what his name actually is, and he says that's a cooler name than what he had in mind, which was "Jiren," and you both nodded your heads in confusion at the time. At this point in Super, you see why Cell wanted his name to be Jiren lol
J Sal
2024-12-26 23:56:36 +0000 UTCIt is, but I think it's incredibly easy for us to understand just how easily U11 could've swept in at the last second bc we know what's about to happen in the rest of the T.o.P. They haven't gotten the full metric of just how strong the last 3 are. They probably thought they needed to jump in when the blast was several feet off the ground when we know damn well that they could've wanted to the last centimeter, get what I mean?
JT
2024-12-26 22:55:43 +0000 UTCMy thoughts exactly, is this not a tournament against universes afterall? 😂
Cynergy
2024-12-26 22:49:48 +0000 UTCVegeta said that Anilaza's attack would destroy the ring. Meaning that if he (supposedly) succeeded, U7 and U11 would be finished as Anilaza is the only fighter left with wings.
JT
2024-12-26 22:49:16 +0000 UTCI really like the team work we have seen between Goku, android 18 and 17 throughout this tournament from saving each other from imminent danger to helping each other in their fights considering Dr gero created android 17,18 to solely kill Goku. Yeah I see what you mean about jiren not getting involved but I guess if jiren did get involved, he would have most likely one shot Anilaza like he did with kale when she went berserk and that would have been anti climactic. The dbs manga actually portrays jiren better as being a hero because when toppo first asks Jiren to participate in the tournament, Jiren declines because he's first priority is to protect universe 11 and keep peace there also he didn't want to be the reason the other universes gets erased because he saved his universe in tournament so I guess that guilt is the reason why Jiren is not knocking everyone out of the tournament even though he could easily do it.
Zaid
2024-12-26 22:28:27 +0000 UTCWhy would Jiren and company help? They weren't being targeted. It would make no sense to insert themselves into a fight between a battle that only benefits them either way.
Chad Mancillas
2024-12-26 22:25:52 +0000 UTC17 has always been the strongest it’s just his antics and kidish ways made him look weaker all the time because 18 is more serious
Dreamville Paul2x
2024-12-26 21:43:40 +0000 UTCfor real, I'm sure she and 17 still have some nightmares or unresolved trauma from that experience
Akka
2024-12-26 21:15:49 +0000 UTCNot that it's related, but I just wanted to shout out the goated VA-11 Hall-A pfp. Not often I happen to stumble across a fellow fan.
JT
2024-12-26 21:12:26 +0000 UTCWell, I kinda understand why they passed on 17's near elimination and 18's save as dramatic. I'll lay it out like this: As far as U7 is aware, they need every possible advantage they can get just to fight against Jiren alone, or at the very least win against U11 via numbers. Losing a team member is a serious step closer to death. This is especially true with 17 who's not only valuable bc of his infinite stamina and barrier ability, but also bc he's been implied to be potentially as strong/stronger than Gohan (depending on how you interpret Goku's conversation about him and 17 holding back in their fight). Don't know if you've experienced the feeling, but it's kind of like fighting a superboss in an RPG. If you lose so much as one party member during the long fight (while the boss might not even be at half health), you start to feel like you've already lost bc your game plan needs them to be alive in order to pull off a win. In this case, it took Goku going BEYOND all out just to land a single blow on Jiren. So it's paramount that every other U7 sticks around to hold off Toppo and Dyspo or else it's effectively over for them.
JT
2024-12-26 20:54:31 +0000 UTCI feel like Jiren was just waiting for the situation to get more dire before he stepped in. Universe 7 was struggling really hard but they still had it under control at that moment. So to me it feels like it's pretty smart to just wait until Universe 7 exausted everything to beat this thing and if you see they can't handle it, jump in as temporary help. (I also feel like Jiren was confident Goku would be able to handle it anyway)
Kami_Psy
2024-12-26 20:53:52 +0000 UTC18 almost getting devoured definitely brought back some Cell trauma.
Spence
2024-12-26 20:46:21 +0000 UTCWe're in the endgame now...
Shadowpunch13
2024-12-26 20:45:41 +0000 UTCThis episode was one of the few ones I considered a “stinker” when I first watched it. The villain should not have been this strong at all, or anywhere close to it. I preferred his power level in the manga, where he was eliminated by Kale’s collateral damage very early on in the arc. But the Androids were great as usual, so I didn’t come out of it too mad
Hohoho
2024-12-26 20:38:55 +0000 UTCFrieza kicking Goku back into the ring is made funnier when you remember that Frieza could have used telekinesis and floated Goku back into the ring instead 😂 18 sacrificing herself for 17 made sense since 17 is technically the stronger android and has been shown to be extremely useful. 10 episodes to go before the end of this saga, you'll be glad to know that none are skippable 🥳
Cynergy
2024-12-26 20:36:03 +0000 UTCSuch an awesome episode, probably the best team work shown in the tournament imo. Also U11 not helping? Never expected them to tbh its a battle royale so more than likely they were just waiting patiently to see who they will need to eliminate to win this tournament. I think the fight against Anilaza worked out perfectly, I don't think U7 would have appreciated any help from U11 in that fight.
Cynergy
2024-12-26 20:32:27 +0000 UTCU11 not really trying to intervene is part of a problem I have with this arc that I've been alluding to every now and then. Once the first few episodes of the T.o.P passes, a lot of these matches come off as just separate matches for U7 to deal with instead of a big battle royale. I get that the plot was trying to set up every universe as being against U7, but I feel like most of the fights this arc could've just as easily passed as being separate matches in a traditional bracket style tournament that Dragon Ball favors. Not enough overlap between universes outside of U7 imo. Now that being said, one could say that U11 could've just been waiting to see if Anilaza's attack would begin to make contact with the arena. Believe me when I say that it probably wouldn't have taken any more than a split second or two for U11's big three to shut that shit down.
JT
2024-12-26 20:29:10 +0000 UTCDespite the entire show being based on food puns, “Dr Pepperoni” catches me off guard every single time
Hohoho
2024-12-26 20:25:05 +0000 UTCAnilaza feels like something I would’ve come up with in my head as a kid, and I mean that in the best way possible. So many abilities that just come out of nowhere lmao. Too many enemies? He’s got echolocation. A fan of Janemba’s reality-bending punches? Ok, give him those too. What’s that? He can’t fly? Fuck it, give him dragon wings.
JT
2024-12-26 20:01:20 +0000 UTCAh shit, we’re down to U7 vs U11 again! Down to the last 10 episodes too. This episode premiered on Christmas Eve of 2017 in Japan, so we were about to head into the new year of 2018 with this final clash. So close to watching this episode on its 7th anniversary lol. I think it was around this time that the community learned that DBS was coming to a close as well, so the sense of finality was really looming over us.
JT
2024-12-26 20:01:02 +0000 UTCI love this episode to pieces. Not often you get to see a kaiju fight in Dragon Ball like this, with several fighters taking on a giant. Reminds me of the Wrath of the Dragon movie. Very glad they included Anilaza as a playable character in Sparking Zero. I’ve replayed that final beam clash against Anilaza almost as much as UI Goku finishing Kefla. Sucks that he just gets one shot by Berserk Kale in the manga, therefore eliminating U3 before they get to do much of anything.
JT
2024-12-26 20:00:48 +0000 UTCEpisode Elimination Name Puns o U7’s Android 18: While her android name obviously isn’t a pun, her former human name “Lazuli” is. The second half of the blue gemstone named “lapis lazuli”. o U3’s Green-Eyed Long Armed Bot: Koitsukai (Nobody’s really sure, but could be a reference to the Japanese phrase “koitsukai, meaning “so this is the guy”) o U3’s Green and Yellow Bot: Borareta (play on “polenta”, an Italian dish. Could also be referencing the Japanese word “borareta”, which means “ripped off”. I figure the former might be more accurate given U3’s name scheme.) o U3’s Green and Red Bot: Pancea (play on “pancetta”, Italian bacon made of pork belly) o U3’s Scientist: Dr. Paparoni (Could be based off of the meat “pepperoni” we commonly associate with pizza and whatnot, but “peperoni” is also the Italian word for “bell peppers”.) o U3’s Kaiju: Anilaza (anagram of the Japanese pronunciation of lasagna) Fighters Remaining 8/80 *As a bonus name pun, that red devil U3 destroyer that hopped out of the robot (Mosco) is named “Mule” to complete the other half of his pun for Moscow mule.
JT
2024-12-26 20:00:30 +0000 UTC
