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Dragon Ball Super 125 Full Reaction

Full Watch Along Reaction to Dragon Ball Super Episode 125

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I think a dictionary might be in order. Calling a man whose only goal in his mortal life is to protect the innocent self-righteous is an oxymoron. If he was protecting the innocent in order to receive hero worship then maybe but it's clear from day 1 that he only cares about protecting people and he views anyone (like Goku) who would nonchalantly and carelessly endanger his entire universe just so he can fight, as a villain who needs to he brought down. And he's also a man who sacrificed his ideals and the life he knew in order to save his universe. Self-righteous is the farthest thing from the truth.

Josh Lomax

Man, the first time Toppo the Destroyer was revealed really made an impact on me. Toppo was already strong but his new form looks amazing. It makes sense in a way, when your universe is at stake, there may come a point your beliefs won't save the people you love anymore. Justice is commendable, but did nothing against Freeza attacking him from behind. It's a selfless sacrifice on Toppo's part because embracing your position as god of destruction means giving up the life you always knew. Of course, Vegeta wasn't wrong in the next episode about standing by your beliefs. But at the same time Toppo's decision could have worked out well. I'm having a great time re-watching these episodes with you. I'm excited to see the next episodes and to hear your thoughts on them.

John Huizer

Once you finish dragonball super, i would recommend looking at a trailer for Dragon Quest Dai. Its 100mph but from the same creator and a masterpiece.

Mosh Mia

No it’s Chris here. It’s easy to tell the difference if you know what to look for. Daman’s performance as Frieza is a lot more aloof and growly with a low-pitched intonation. Chris has a way more dynamic intonation and is able to take his voice higher than Daman. His delivery is usually also a bit more sassy, although Daman’s is sassy too but to a slightly lesser degree

Hohoho

That’s true 😂

J Sal

Gotta give respect when its due and Tops transformation deserved respect 🤩

Bethany and Ken

😳 🤯 yeah we never liked him, but not gonna lie, glad he stuck around to give us this transformation.

Bethany and Ken

😂 😂 oops I didn’t know that

Jeffrey F

fair 😆

Bethany and Ken

It's bad luck to say a clown's name 😜

Bethany and Ken

Nice

Bethany and Ken

😂

Bethany and Ken

Based on dialog from Whis and Beerus, I’d lean more towards the idea that becoming a destroyer involves you killing the previous one, but there’s no confirmation so far. Whenever the topic of a replacement destroyer is brought up, Whis pairs it up by talking about having Beerus “kick the bucket,” and Beerus takes the idea of having a successor as a threat every single time. Almost like that title needs to be snatched violently. I think the manga will probably elaborate on this in the future

Hohoho

I just read back over that message, Beerus is literally immortal, bro is a true God of the definition.

Di Or

I misunderstand what Frieza containing 5% of a hakai has to do with killing destroyers but yes it makes sense that super Shenron could either eat a destroyer or wish them away, technically it wouldn’t “kill” the destroyer unless it was a wish. But killing a destroyer isn’t just as simple as being “a worthy opponent “

Di Or

"NOBODY CAN BEAT ME WHEN IM SUPER 17"

REDE

they have never shown it but it was blatantly stated that Super Shenron has the power to kill destroyers. Frieza, a mortal with no divine training at all was able to withstand a weaker form of Hakai so its pretty clear that Destroyers can be destroyed just not easily by any stretch of the imagination.

REDE

"Korean certainly doesn’t have an interesting personality" What do you mean by that?

REDE

That is never stated directly its inferred but no definitive answer has been given in either the manga or the Anime. More importantly than that, the audience has never even seen a destroyer die/retire.

REDE

They know freeza isn't out, 17 knocked him with a rock to keep him in then said the same line freeza said to goku when he knocked goku to keep him in the ring. It was a call back to that. If top wasn't allowed to fight, an argument could be made goku and vegeta shouldn't be allowed either. They're also receiving training from an angel and destroyer god.

Chad Mancillas

Not gonna lie,toppo the destroyer theme song sounds fire! 🔥

Jeffrey F

Guess we'll find out what happens to destroyers once they are replaced....but remember that Beerus and Whis have been hinting at Goku or Vegeta...or someone else... having the potential to replace Beerus. I'd imagine after living for millions of years, you would be ready to die...

Nate Terry

I’ve always found toppo too over the “top” with his antics and I don’t personally like those characters. Korean certainly doesn’t have an interesting personality but I like characters that don’t yell or talk loud about how great they are so I enjoyed just seeing jiren stomp everyone without any trouble. Stoic characters are far more enjoyable to me

Sean Carroll (AOT is better than GOT)

The clown Destroyer God wouldn't Die if Top took over the Destroyer Position. He would simply go into Retirement

Vinayak Murthy

toyotaro (he's the creator of the dbs manga with toriyama) did a illustration of belmod(the destroyer for the eleventh universe) when he was a mortal and was apart of the pride trooper before he became a destroyer and it seems in the illustration belmod is saying good bye to the pride troopers as he is going to become a destroyer. I'm guessing when a destroyer is replaced, the former destroyer returns to becoming a mortal again The symbol on toppo when he became a destroyer is something the other destroyers and Angels have on their clothing and it seems each universes destroyer's symbol is different

Zaid

A destroyer has been killed by someone before?

Di Or

Well they can be destroyed if they fight a worthy opponent they're not immortal but yes if their supreme kai dies, they die as well. Like a fruit from a tree.

Asuka Yousei 妖精帝國

I'm going to be honest i've always found Toppo more interesting than Jiren. I can say that now that we're here. His love for his universe, he kind of carries that fatherly protector essence to me & making him a destroyer in training makes him that more interesting to me. I also don't understand why the american dub named his top instead of his original name "Toppo" I understand one of the meanings translates to "Top" but i still think they should've kept his original name. Top is so weird lol

Asuka Yousei 妖精帝國

Yep that's the best way to go about it, the fandom loves spoilers. All we can do is juke past them like a football player lol

J Sal

Yeah Bandai's been spamming DLCs nonstop, and I'm crazy enough to still play them lol

J Sal

Bro I got spoiled on literally all of them LMAO. That's the main reason why I keep up with the manga for shonen series these days. Can't trust any of these fandoms to keep their mouths shut 😆

JT

Yeah, just like the one in One Piece. Nobody was escaping that one too

J Sal

Fantastic episode, literally the moment that start to make me include this arc as one of my top 5 in all of Dragon Ball. While y'all were talking down on Top this whole arc, I had this episode in mind and was looking forward to the change in respecting Top now, and boy did you guys not dissapoint!

J Sal

Oh cool! I wouldn't know bc I just kinda left XC2 at the base game in 2016. Never turned back after that lol

JT

I'm pretty sure I know. Sorry man, I tried to warn ya. Knew it would be everywhere 😅

JT

Also a move in Xenoverse 2 as well, saw him spam it in some of the raid battles

J Sal

Right they're missing out on so much lol

J Sal

Hell yeah, I can't wait!! Hopefully they release in batches and catch up with the sub, cause man I got hit with a MAJOR spoiler from the recent episodes (y'all probably know which "spoiler" I'm talking about)

J Sal

I heard that destroyers do retire when another one is made to replace them, and as far as I know a destroyer can only die if the Supreme Kai of that universe is killed.

Di Or

Ive kept up with the series listening to the Japanese VAs which I normally dont do but Im impressed with both the story and voicework of Daima. Ill definitely be rewatching the series for the English dub as Im excited for a certain VA who has returned to an iconic role 🥳

Cynergy

last episode someone commented that Gohan could have killed Frieza 💀

REDE

I just realized rewatching this that Top's awakening created a universe. They said in the beginning that the T.O.P was in the null realm where time and space don't exist. After he transformed Krillin said "Look at the sky!" There were nebulas and stars in the sky now. He low key made a Big Bang. and everyone else in the ring survived that (which also explains the Grand Priest shielding the stands) goes hard af ngl.

REDE

And thus Toppo has made his decision. No more fighting for Justice, now the gloves are off. Now's the time to absolutely become a G.o.D. I can see why you could see it as cheating for having a legitimate G.o.D. enter the tournament, but you also have to consider, both 17 and 18 are inexhaustible beings, Goku and Vegeta have literal Divine Ki and were training with Whis and they also have a Planet Destroyer in Frieza. So, we're not exactly fighting fair either. Can I just say 17 in Super became my favorite Android. Don't get me wrong, I loved 18 in Z and Super, but 17 took the cake with hus sarcasm, sassiness, and deadpan humor. In Z I overlooked him a lot, even during the Piccolo fight with 17 I kept my eyes on Piccolo the entire time. Also watching back on OGDB and hearing Chuck Huber as Pilaf, then drastically changing to become 17 is a ride.

Jason Rogue

Not so! Although Daman Mills did fill in for episodes 93-107 for the original broadcast release, Ayres was able to reprise his role for 108 onwards. Then, for the Blu-ray and streaming releases, they had him go back and re-dub 93-107. This is especially obvious in episode 95 since even some lines were changed around. (Slight spoilers for DND) Ayres also reprised his role as Frieza for the Broly movie.

Shadowpunch13

I can see why the English dub changed that line, because we do like callbacks, but also it's very clear that he was saving Frieza. Then again I love sassy 17, he became my favorite of the Androids in Super as I paid him no mind in Z. Plus I still can't believe I'm hearing Pilaf and Shen as 17.

Jason Rogue

Chris Ayres didn’t voice freeza during this saga, daman mills voiced freeza as Chris was far too sick

Sean Carroll (AOT is better than GOT)

The phrase is low and behold

Sean Carroll (AOT is better than GOT)

Chris Ayres did not voice freeza during the tournament of power, it was daman mills. Chris was far too sick to voice freeza at that stage. Sadly he died in 2021

Sean Carroll (AOT is better than GOT)

Love 17s attitude fighting Top this episode. Even if a lone Android has to take on a God of destruction for his universe to win, he's willing to take that chance and shoulder it

Hayden Morris

I think a destroyer in the tournament being unfair went out the window when Whis and everyone else realized that Jiren was even more powerful than destroyers already 😂

Hayden Morris

RIP to Chris. What a legend!

Angel M

Professional racist hates warriors of justice.

JT

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but casting Chris Ayres as a fast-talking, pompous, smarmy and sadistic Frieza was by far one of the best decisions they could've made. And you can tell the writers have an incredible amount of fun localizing his shit-talk.

Shadowpunch13

Freeza probably hates U11 as much as he does Saiyans at this point tbh 💀😂

Austin Collier

"Well, well, well. I should call you a warrior of just-won't leave the ring. " Man's such a punk ass 😆

JT

“Farewell trooper, I’m more for poetic justice.” 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Shadowpunch13

Lol the Pennywise destroyer name is Belmod just incase if yall want to know his name lol

Jeffrey F

Yea Toppo the destroyer is scary!

Jeffrey F

Oh boy Frieza had no idea who he was up against lol I like the reveal of Top being a destroyer, it was kind of hinted when he attended the Zeno expo. Technically Top is still mortal as hes only a destroyer in training so he was able to take part in the tournament. Fun fact, Jiren was asked to be a destroyer but declined but I think Top suits the role of destroyer.

Cynergy

To anyone who will be catching Daima for the first time through the dub tomorrow, I hope you have fun! I still think it's a strong first episode. Looking forward to the Daima reactions too!

JT

BTW Toppo's "head squish" was turned into unique animation for when he grabs Frieza in Sparking Zero.

JT

But not undeserved lol

JT

We getting there yall !!! Lol YT is at ep 107 haha

Kev

21:04 I love how much of a smartass 17 is. While the dub’s version of him getting back at Frieza for saving Goku by using Frieza's earlier line is hilarious, the sub has him tell Toppo “I meant to hit you with that” lol.

JT

The Frieza disrespect is crazy

Moises Martinez

19:32 Throwback to when Frieza came back after being hit with the Spirit Bomb on Namek. It's the same one-eyed expression and all.

JT

A small detail I like, is when Frieza is getting consumed by the Hakai, he says nearly verbatim what he said when he got consumed by the Spirit Bomb on Planet Namek, and low and behold, the next time we see him, it's practically shot for shot, for how he appeared after surviving the Spirit Bomb.

Shadowpunch13

Really gotta shout out the performances of Chris Ayres and Ryusei Nakao as Frieza in this episode. Both in his lines shit-talking Toppo and the sounds of agony when he’s getting his shit kicked in. For me, the real highlight is around here (14:11) in the sub when Frieza’s laughing his ass off at Toppo. As an English speaker, I prefer the dub’s writing of Frieza’s dialogue and Chris Ayres’ delivery is phenomenal, but Nakao’s Frieza laugh is what makes him my favorite Frieza VA (just slightly above Chris Ayres). IMO it’s the perfect blend of pretentiousness, sadism, and joy that you’d expect of Frieza.

JT

12:00 If you're curious about that symbol on Toppo's chest, it's the same one that Belmod (the clown) is sporting on his pants, suggesting it's the logo for U11's G.o.D. As to why it doesn't show up on other G.o.Ds' bodies? Fuck it, it looks cool and a transformation should be cool.

JT

5:12 Ken trying to chase the Androids down in DBZ Kakarot. 8:33 Ken getting lit up like a Christmas tree with ki blasts in the same fight.

JT

In the manga, Toppo also made his last stand by unleashing his divine energy to power up. However, he didn’t gain access to “hakai” (destruction) energy or undergo any drastic change in physique like he does in the anime. This suggests that Toriyama’s initial manuscript might’ve only mentioned Toppo getting stronger by unleashing divine energy, and Toei just decided to take that inch and run a mile with it by turning him into what they did (which is just hilarious to me).

JT


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