Shingeki Subs

who hurt you?

Kebab

I didn't know it was considered as a slur in North America and I have my doubts because this is *clearly* not the case in other cultures especially in *Asia* . When I see your article I can understand why this word can be disturbing but it only concern USA and his history but It has nothing to do a show like shingeki no kyojin.

Hassan

Unsure why this comment has received so many likes. This is actually false. They don’t use Google translate. And this 'Hængeklupen' is trolling by his own admission.

Sebastian Samuel

i have allways hated you

Hængeklumpen

Not on Patreon unfortunately, nah. He already knows about it though, there's not much more to add on the subject.

Can't his mod Seph delete these comments?

LEX the Lexicon Artist

I am Asian American. I think it's a slur. Therefore I'd avoid the term, knowing that it hurts at least *some* percentage of the population. If someone called me Oriental instead of Asian American, I'd be offended. Maybe some people aren't offended, but the writer of that article doesn't speak for me. There is a LONG history of this word being used to dehumanize Asians. And I'm sure Isayama would agree that it isn't a black and white issue and there are reasons for people feeling how they feel. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112465167 Oh and I have to clarify that I am not in any way offended that Im is using the term "Oriental" - I mean, it's in the subtitles so that's his point of reference.

LEX the Lexicon Artist

This is the very first time I've ever heard someone say that "Oriental" was a slur word so I decided to look it up, literally the first result that I got in google was https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-tsuchiyama-oriental-insult-20160601-snap-story.html " As an Oriental, I am bemused. Apparently Asians are supposed to feel demeaned if someone refers to us as Orientals. But good luck finding a single Asian American who has ever had the word spat at them in anger. Most Asian Americans have had racist epithets hurled at them at one time or another: Chink, slant eye, gook, Nip, zipperhead. But Oriental isn’t in the canon. And why should it be? Literally, it means of the Orient or of the East, as opposed to of the Occident or of the West. Last I checked, geographic origin is not a slur. If it were, it would be wrong to label people from Mississippi as Southerners." Welp...

Kopplex

Hey guys. "Oriental" is okay for objects like rugs, lamps, buildings - not people. It is pretty much universally considered racist in North America and it does not depend on context. *Maybe* it's different in other cultures, but you don't want to say this to an Asian American/Canadian. See this article: https://www.thoughtco.com/avoid-these-five-racial-terms-2834959 We would just say "Asian beauty" instead.

LEX the Lexicon Artist

Oriental is a slur!? Wait what??? Since when? Then what about "Oriental beauty" and such? How are we supposed to translate 東洋の美人 now if we can't say "oriental" which means 東洋??

石原 悟

Hey Im, there is a scumbag in both full opacity and early access comment section who seems to enjoy spoiling/hinting at you. I know this gets said a lot but unfortunately, it's better if you just don't read Patreon comments at all, or find some kind of way of comments that allows moderation.

GeorgeYTG

I'm comparing it with the version we get on Crunchyroll, not judge it as a standalone. In this version, there were some scenes such as the conversations between Willy and the Magath that in MY opinion, weren't as verbally profound and impactful as the Crunchyroll one. Either way, I totally respect people's different viewpoints.

Tom

They literal use google translate, trash tier translators.

Hængeklumpen

As for the word "Oriental" I think the meaning is more exotic in nature and not seen as a slur. Can't been 100 % certain tho, also depends on the context.

Stryfe

I like the dame subs more personally.

Sebastian Samuel

Nah, this version is far from literal. It's full of what translator thought was being said, as opposed to what was actually being said. And translator made quite a few mistakes too.

石原 悟

Ah, yeah, that too. I mean, that's what Eren meant, but not what he said.

石原 悟

Honestly, I still prefer the Crunchyroll version. This version's sub is too literal which make the dialogues seem mediocre, hence doesn't fit with the usual depth and thought-provoking theme of the series.

Tom

For example, "Do you have regrets about your family?" became "You sound like you're talking about yourself". What the heck.

LEX the Lexicon Artist

I think the DDY subs were for the most part okay (but who am I to say - I'm just an out-of-practice Japanese learner haha) and some of the wording was a little more true to the Japanese way of speaking. However I much preferred Crunchyroll using the word "Easterner" instead of "Orient" ("Oriental" is a slur as Im probably knows).

LEX the Lexicon Artist

Honestly would suggest Im just watches one set of subs for the reactions, and then when he rewatches the episodes on his own he switches to the other, just so he never loses any context or anything that might have been unclear in either. They both have their ups and downs.

ArtficialFlvrz

Personally I find the official subs more accurate and closer to the manga despite their choice of words, after comparing the two several times. They often even copy the exact same sentence from the manga which serves the accuracy. DDU tend to miss the meaning sometimes since they translate the whole thing from scratch, "We'll give the jaws to Marcel" for example in ep3 when he was already using his jaw titan in front of them.

Steve Bachman

These subs have their own issues. There was a mistaken, and I don't agree with how they did it with Magath/Willy conversation about nation and spies. Man, will I ever see subs which I can praise?😅

石原 悟

Yeah these subs seemed closer to what i remembered in the manga

Diego E Gonzalez

To be honest, these subs were actually better in terms of translation arrangement. Sometimes the official feels a little clunky, where I found this to be quite smooth in their speech.

Cornberry

Thanks for posting that, saves me some typing time.

Sounds good! It's nice to have a taste of different translations either way so it's great to see you decided to check this out at least once!

AutomoTomto

unironically preferred this translation, felt quite a bit more literary than the usual crunchyroll stuff. understand people's desire for consistency though

Andrej Kosovac