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Early Access - Attack on Titan 4x9 (Post Episode)

Early Access - Attack on Titan 4x9 (Post Episode)

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Yeah, he has it on the list of potential anime he wants to watch

GeorgeYTG

Ymir was his favorite easily at the end of season 2. However, too many other characters actually got screen time in the last 30ish episodes for Ymir to still hold on to the number 1 spot.

John

Good to see papa Braus getting some love. He usually doesn't get much notice from people.

Mark Claborne

I didn't know Ymir was his favorite ! I love this man even more lmao

Gaïa New Gate

Does anyone know if Im has any plans to watch Monster in the future?

Philipp Bruche

The next episode is gonna be fire, I wonder what he can deduce just from it.

PuntMan

YAAAS

Polygon

Thats a good one, start with Fate Zero??? That one makes a good impression.

PuntMan

This man’s memory is built different, I swear lol I can remember what happened but no way I can tell which episode was it. Only a few very remarkable scenes.

Felipe

@Sephizen will you do the same for episode 12 at approx. 04:30min? I think you already know what I mean.

Zero 陰陽

I really wanna see FilmBuff's reaction to Fate/Zero. Really hope he decides to watch it in the future

pharaohfallacy

just speculation but based on how emotional he gets I would say right now it is Reiner but before it used to be Ymir but she unfortunately passed away I suppose she is at number 2 maybe

Naz

How this man just knows all episodes and their scenes off the top of his head. Not even all of you are as good lmao

k.lam

Thanks AT is the name of the song that plays during the last scene of season 3, probably stands for Thanks Attack Titan.

FlabbyGentleman

Here's my take on the significance of the conch shell. The Tybur family logo is also a conch, and at the end of one of the episodes or something, Wit studios had released a tribute image, if I can remember correctly, that said Thanks AT. I think they meant Thanks Armin Tybur. Crazy innit😮. Plus the blonde hair!

Cyanide

I have my theories about his method, which largely involve trees and being upside down. Good thing his hotel offers this.

Serodin

The secret way Zeke wipes his ass is the key to everything.

TheArk

The shooting range scene with the exchange between Eren and Armin kinda remind me of what Nick Fury said in Winter Soldier. "I take the world as it is, not what it should be" Eren is aware and acknowledge who they are and what the world thinks of them. I especially like that he doesn't deny that they are monsters cos technically they are. But because of that he knows what needs to be done to protect his people even if that means doing some unforgivable things. Armin on the other hand, has a vision of what the world should be. One of understanding and sympathy. You can say it's naive but I just cannot fault not wanting to kill people. Unfortunately, in their world, diplomacy is a mountain to climb for the Eldians. And to make matters worse, time which they do not have, forces them to choose a path.

Muhd Zulhilmi

I think that back when season 1 was airing in Japan WIT studios felt that Japanese culture frowned on tattoos (especially on children) so they decided not to have Mikasa have a tattoo. Instead they had an embroidery. But in the desire to be socially acceptable in Japan they didn't account for the tattoo being used as a plot device much further down the line.

John

Trust me, it's my top 1 and I'm very difficult about story telling and such ! Just know that for the first season the shiwrunner were aiming for a GOT's rip off so it's very cliche and a bit weird. From season 2 the writers were given white card, and from then it just gets better ! I know FilmBuff is planning to react to it as well, at some point !

Gaïa New Gate

i reallllllllllly wanna know who film buffs favorite character is

Zyuki

Assuming they'll ever be finished :P

Jeffrey Chinn

@ak if it wasn’t 8 seasons of an investment I think I might be on board to try. Books are sounding like the way to go!

Sarah S

Before Season 8 of GoT I would 100% tell someone to watch it right away but man.... they really missed the mark on the ending. It’s still a great series though! I haven’t read the books and don’t think I will. Although the ending was not how I would have wanted it to be, I still think it’s worth a try if you still end up being curious!

A_Daddy Daichi

Yo thanks for the tips. I’ve been hearing about Black Sails, might take you up on that!!

Sarah S

Please, don't watch them lmao, the books are great ! But GOT's ending is just not it. But if you want to discover some very well written characters and an amazing story I would recommend Black Sails !

Gaïa New Gate

Maaaaan I hear so many times that Isayama is inspired by some themes and characters from GOT in his writing, especially for some of the content we’ve seen up to this point in S4 which is when I think he started binging it. Because of that, I really want to watch GOT and feel like I’d really vibe with it but I hear it doesn’t stick the landing, so I’m really torn about starting an 8 season investment knowing that it might fall apart some by the end. Anyways great discussion. I really like the additions to the cast from this episode, especially Niccolo and Onyankonpan. Isayama actually made some comments about what the conch could mean (I think! Memory might be a little iffy 🤡) shortly after he wrote the chapter where it first appeared. I’m not sure if author comments are spoiler-y? But it could be worth looking into if you’re interested or if our trusty mod thinks it’s a good idea.

Sarah S

Sephizen, you are the GOAT 👑

Sarah S

Which thing are you guys talking about?

Muhammad Affan

Ah n u get what youre saying. That it is important to have an established system... but to have a good established system... requires someone, or a group of people, to assert their wills successfuly to establush that system no? There are already some estavlished shit in the aot universe, then how would so.eone go about changing it. Km the end whether theres system or no, and whther thag system is good or not, that human condition, and reality of winners and losers will always be under play. But yeah, its good to have a system to ensure everyone wins satisfactorily. In the aot universe, everyone gets to live. But given the situation theyre in... theyre doing what rhey can... asserting their wills. If erens will isnt the winning one.... and say armins is (a diplomatic answer) then im all for it, lol. But i think its too late to rely on systems on who should decide, u do what u do u know. Especially if u have the power to make a change, ofc ur gonna do something with that power

Wolves

Yes my view is simple. People from different backrounds just live and make their choices, some have more power some dont. You cant really do anything but assert your will in the direction u choose. Someone could be evil but have the most perfect plan and means to manipulate the situation so that he ends up dominating the world. Someone could be pure good and have the best most perfect plan to manipulate the situation so thay theres peace. Neither ppl exist because no one is perfect or absolute one way or the other, but yes i think generally, life is a maneouvring game. Sometimes theres a burdle u jump over it, sometimes u curve. If u focus hard or got strong muscles u may end up to your destination. Muscles meaning natural talents or inclinations to go a particular direction. If marley destroys eldia, whos to say they were wrong? Eldians are gone. Marley remains. Therefore .arley was right. And eldians may one day be forgotton. If marley gets wiped, and only eldians remain, whos to say they are wrong. Theyre the ones who remain, so they are right. I know its harsh to be the winner is the right one, and its our humanity that can go beyond that and assert their will n say, no thats wrong. But on the physical plane from the way i look at it, thats just how it is. If someone were to assert their will in finding a diplomatic solution thats a possibility too. Asserting your will isnt fighting, its just being who you are n what you believe n taking action towards it. If you plan is better and you could aomehown convince ppl onto your side, that is also an example of some successfully asserting their will and vetting their result.

Wolves

Filmbuff, great discussion as always! I was really intrigued by your lantern motif discussion, such an ordinary utilitarian tool, yet it holds such interesting symbolism in the course of the story. If you remember, in season 3 episode 11, they show briefly how they used the glowing ore in the underground chapel (Reiss) to make lanterns, signifying the light of knowledge that was revealed from the underground cave to the rest of the population due to coup d'état. Very interesting, I wonder what other objects add to the nuance of the story....

Shiro

This is a tough one, isn't it? Who gets to choose? I think that right should be given to each individual, provided they also face the consequences of their choices. In the real world, we do have a select few individuals making choices for the majority. However, the ones who make the choices should be able to make it with the consent of individuals on whose behalf the said choices are made. Moreover, power should be given to individuals to oppose the said choices if they do not agree with them. And also, those who make decisions should be held accountable/bear the cost of those choices. Commander Smith made the choice to charge the Beast titan, but he made the recruits choose their own fate, as a result, they all charged with him. Yet, when they captured Annie in Stohess, he gave no choice to the citizens and many lost their life in the fight as collateral. This unilateral decision-making has been a recurring theme with characters like Willy, Karl Fritz and his descendants, and now Eren and Zeke. I don’t like it when individuals make choices on behalf of a large population while hiding vital information from them as this most often than not leads to unintended and unforeseen consequences, whose price must be paid by the innocents. And the more important an issue, the more input from others is essential (as there might be several blind spots you may not have considered). Case in point, Karl Fritz and his memory wiping of his population. As far as whose choices would be held higher, well, it would be based on the principles applied to make that choice. Who is this decision serving? At what cost? What are the cost-benefits, short and long term? Trade-offs? And most importantly, what values/principles are you prioritizing in your decision?

Shiro

Interesting. So to summarize what I got from your comments, it's 'Anarchy 101'. You're questioning the very need to decide beforehand who makes the choices, since " Basically a bunch of wills asserting themselves, inevitably the winning wills when its all said end done get their closest version of what they wanted as results." And since it's a never ending cycle cuz "I think in the end bunch of people, whther its groups or individuals, just keep making choices upon choices n choices right?", it would be almost a waste of time and energy to establish any kind of system beforehand. (Unless that was the choice of whoever won a certain round, but it will be inevitably challenged in some future) As Nestor Mahno used to say, "Chaos is mother of order". Rather simplistic view in my opinion, but it got merit. Especially since I never established any criteria for judging the made choices, or even process. Right, wrong, good, bad, all that being irrelevant for the sake of discussion and focusing solely on decision making process. If we delve into definitions of good/bad choices, try to establish common ground in that regard, perhaps you'd have different approach. You did close with "But thats just 1 very real aspect of it, winner gets to live and survive. But its not everything either" Lets leave things as they are for now. Maybe others will chip in what they got to say)))

石原 悟

Did someone tell him about the thing in Episode 10 that is related to Mikasa?

Hussain Alghazal

Great discussion. I would like first to point out something about the previous episode. In the end of the episode, you can see Connie looking at Eren (before Eren start asking Connie what was Sasha;'s last words), which gives a feeling that Connie was waiting for Eren to say something, maybe regret what he did. However, not of these happened. What this episode showed us about Niccolo is kind of similar to what episode 10 of S3 showed about a miracle as Uri described it, but Kenny replied by saying that this happened because you showed me your power first and crushed me in your hand. Similarly, Niccolo was able to be a friend to some people who used to be his enemies. In this episode, we see Armin who wanted to believe in this miracle just like Uri.

Hussain Alghazal

I think in the end bunch of people, whther its groups or individuals, just keep making choices upon choices n choices right? And some of them end up for the good, some of it end up for the bad. I guess in the end theres no way of knowing how shit is gonna turn out, all you can do is keep moving forward, keep believing your ideal whatever that is, and keep fighting for it. Then maybe, maybe you will get your answer, or the result youre looking for. Maybe not. Thats just how it is. Which is amazing how that essential reality is so much of the theme of the show. Im saying this not just bc the show has said them, but its literally whatd youd think and make of the situation. It all comes to groups and individuals putting their foot down on what they believe, and whoever fights the hardest, and puts best action plan forward to achieve it, ends up getting the result they were looking for. Basically a bunch of wills asserting themselves, inevitably the winning wills when its all said end done get their closest version of what they wanted as results. Its literally almost like a sperm racing to getti.g to its egg. Lmao anyway, im rambling now. But thats just 1 very real aspect of it, winner gets to live and survive. But its not everything either

Wolves

The king choosing for his people to die and perish when the time comes is wrong. Whats only right is all people should have a right to fight for survival, and to do that is never wrong. I dont know what eren is deviding for eldia, yet in similar way ita just as wrong for him to choose for eldia just like the king did. Yet at the same time, if its to free them it seems less wrong then if its to make forget, and sign to definete doom.

Wolves

Thank you so much for this.... I see on twitter that you have already seen episode 10. What will be the upload time for next 3 episodes? Will it be weekly or earlier than usual?

Muhammad Affan

Damn this came out pretty late hey, hope u been sleeping im!

Wolves

I can feel the pressure Filmbuff was under to put this out. It's all good. I usually start rambling about translation, but for now I'd like to share my own impression of the lanterns. Erwin and his lantern. That scene when he lights it and asks Nile "Who gets to choose?" The eternal question, eh? Who gets to choose. Who indeed. Karl Fritz made the choice for all Eldians. Reiss family kept making choices for all Eldians on Paradis. Then the Scouts and other military members started making choices. Coup d'etat. Fast forward a bit and we see the next swing of the spiral, Eren made the choice. Fascinating, isn't it? When was the last time we had people making the choices? Oh, wait a second... Marlean people made the choice. The choice to keep hating Eldians and subjugate them. Mmmm, doesn't sound like a nice thing, does it? But what about a handful of individuals making the choices for others? What about Rod Reiss who tried to impose his choice upon Eldians in the walls? Hmmm.... Is it just me, or do both variations seem sketchy?))) So, who gets to choose? Eren? Armin? Hange? The people (who might not even know many details and available options yet, depending on how military dealt with new info)? Military government along with Queen Historia? Historia alone? What do you guys think? I'm actually interested in hearing what different people got to say about this. Who's choices should be held higher? Individual making the choice for the large group? A small group of individuals? Majority of the people? If majority, then how to define it? Would 50.000001% be enough to be considered majority? 60%? 80%? Would you be fine accepting the choice made in accordance with your rules, even if it ends up being something you oppose?

石原 悟


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