FMAB Episode 1 Poll
Added 2021-03-23 19:43:51 +0000 UTCHello everyone.
So it was brought to my attention that FMAB episode 1 is not in the manga at all (filler). That It felt specifically made more as a reintroduction for people who had already watched FMA years ago because the episode reintroduces a huge amount of characters (some you don't get introduced to until a little later in the story under a different context after episode 1) and the events of the episode also take place in the middle of the story's timeline.
Sephizen (many of you know him from the Shigeki comment sections) recommends that I skip episode 1 if I actually want a blind reaction to the source material, but he doesn't feel comfortable making that call just by himself. So we'll put it through a poll to reach a decision. If the decision is to skip it, then I would revisit Episode 1 when it does make more sense.
The majority of you know how I approach a story, please take that into consideration when voting.
Also a reminder, It will be the Sub.
Let's keep it spoiler free in the comments, I would like to see what people have to say.
Thank you.
Comments
Yeah, I know. I suppose I was dealing in a bit of false equivalency. Regardless, I thought about it some more and I think Sephizen’s premise is wrong. FMA:B’s first episode isn’t designed for returning fans, it’s meant as a primer for new viewers. It exists to accommodate the early story’s accelerated pace. I don’t think you’ll be lost or anything; I just think skipping it will needlessly confuse the narrative in ways that I can’t get into because of spoilers. I know the poll’s over, and not in my opinion’s favor, but I still think you’ll be better off just watching the whole series in order.
SladeClegane
2021-04-06 05:09:27 +0000 UTCThat’s not what I meant with the Doctor Who thing. I said that I need to wait and give the newer version a chance to explain things, before those things get explained through classic Who. I noticed that anytime something new would be introduced, people would immediately go into details about that particular character or idea from classic Who.
FILMBuFF
2021-04-06 04:44:09 +0000 UTCIt is ridiculous that there are serious people who say "episode 1 of the anime spoils the anime". That is just stupid. If you want a truly "blind reaction to the source material" you should read the manga. Episodes 2-10 are made for people who read the manga or watched the old anime anyway, the pacing is way too fast. But I think it is ok to watch episode 1-10 just as a normal part of this anime. This is not Attack on Titan, where everything is a big mystery and watching this episode would ruin it all. Its written way more simple and the true strength lies in the characters and not in the plot.
Theo Traumato
2021-03-27 00:25:31 +0000 UTChow much you bet it's gonna happen anyways lmao but yeah
lumine
2021-03-25 15:12:25 +0000 UTCyea lol the real correct move would be to start with FMA and then jump over to FMAB!
Astrid
2021-03-25 07:16:07 +0000 UTCand by not necessary for you I mean for most people it was some fun hinting about stuff that comes back later but I think it's likely you'd be spoiled A LOT it would definitely be a SNK s3 post credit scene situation if not worse.
Astrid
2021-03-25 07:13:22 +0000 UTCwhen are you starting it? After death note?
Conor
2021-03-25 03:21:22 +0000 UTCwe dont want another season 3 post credit scene type situation playing out, i say skip the first one
Wolves
2021-03-24 20:10:07 +0000 UTCMakes absolutely no sense skipping the first episode. You're watching the anime, even if it's filler who cares. It won't do you any harm. Besides, starting with episode 2 seems kinda awkward as that episode wasn't made in such a way as to serve as the first viewing for a new fan.
X-Offender
2021-03-24 19:00:38 +0000 UTCFILMBuFF and Sephizen. What a duo
Isaac
2021-03-24 18:15:47 +0000 UTCI never thought about it but yesh, might be better to skip, actually. Btw I'm so happy you're watching the sub! All the reactions I've seen have been to the english dub and ngl it's a great dub but like you I always prefer to watch stuff in it's original language :D
Chi
2021-03-24 17:59:47 +0000 UTCDefinitely agree with this. Since Brotherhood was created as a reboot and assumes its audience has already seen the original series, it kinda speeds through those early arcs (and even skips some things entirely). Due to its slower pacing, the original series does a better job establishing the characters and hitting the emotional beats imo, although Brotherhood is far from bad in that regard.
Eric Thomas
2021-03-24 16:15:29 +0000 UTCbecause FMAB doesn’t have everything the manga does, episode 1 probably has some useful context stuff
David yao
2021-03-24 14:07:30 +0000 UTCIf there is a break for Shingeki will you react to Lost girls OVA ? I think it would be more interesting for you to watch it before the end of the series.
Hassan
2021-03-24 13:19:27 +0000 UTCHad to repost the comment since my profile picture was from the SNK manga (wasn't a spoiler since my pfp was Bertolt from S3P2)
Michael
2021-03-24 11:40:44 +0000 UTCTo the people asking Im to watch the dub: Since the FMAB dub is way better than most anime dubs I kinda get why so many people here like it. Saying that it's better than the sub is just wrong. While the main cast in the dub is done well, the voice acting for a lot of minor characters is really awkward in the dub, something that you rarely see in anime sub. A lot of people, including Im, myself and many others prefer to watch everything in the original language. "Rejecting" any medium that is not in your native language is a phenomenon most prevalent in the english speaking parts of the world. Almost everything the heart of a "normie" desires is originally in english. Therfore a lot of native english speakers see any media they want to consume being in english as a matter of course. A big intellectual problem if you ask me. 'Once you overcome the one-inch tall barrier of subtitles, you will be introduced to so many more amazing films' - Bong Joon-Ho
Michael
2021-03-24 11:37:55 +0000 UTCPeople saying "dont skip lol" either don't know how you like to consume media or they don't care.
bla blubb
2021-03-24 11:33:34 +0000 UTCYeah i watched FMA a few years before FMAB and have to agree.
TheStruggler
2021-03-24 09:46:19 +0000 UTCI don't care for episode 1, it has some extra hints/foreshadowing which were a good call for the show in general but might not be necessary for you. apart from that it's not a particularly good episode and has some things that are then redundant in the next episodes. I think it's clearly there just to separate the beginning for the show from the old one, which is not needed if you never watched it. the 2nd and 3rd episodes are how the story is supposed to start /edit: I mean are the 2nd and 3rd episodes completely seamless and perfect as opening episodes? no but they give the same info as was originally meant to not extra info that when taken seriously could be pretty blatant.
Astrid
2021-03-24 08:35:09 +0000 UTCIt's an anime only episode which has some pretty heavy foreshadowing that he will certainly pick up on.
Not Pigeons
2021-03-24 07:12:41 +0000 UTCThis man is too clever, he will pick up on plot points he shouldn't know for a while if he watches episode 1. And yes it is anime only reintroduction like John said. It will be much more fun watching him figure out these things later.
Not Pigeons
2021-03-24 07:09:10 +0000 UTCThe dub is just fine, which is to say more than most shows. Every side character is super awkward, while the main cast is fine. Still doesn't out preform the sub in anyway. They way I view it, if you don't feel like reading the dub is definitely serviceable. It is in no way superior to the sub, but I don't think you're experience will be lessened to much by watching the dub.
Not Pigeons
2021-03-24 07:06:47 +0000 UTCMad excited for FMAB Lets goooooo
DJ IC
2021-03-24 05:38:30 +0000 UTCSaying the dub is better in every sense is quite dramatic. The biggest argument for subbed over dubbed is that the dubbed is just an interpretation of the subbed. However with every interpretation details are lost or changed. These are usually minor details, but what makes a show great besides the small nuances.
John
2021-03-24 05:22:35 +0000 UTCEpisode 1 is anime only. Its a reintroduction that's intended for people already familiar with FMA. Not anything like AoT or Deathnote's first episodes.
John
2021-03-24 05:20:32 +0000 UTCAw man I'm sure I'm the last to know and you have heard it about ten thousand times already.... But the dub is better in every sense... The only dub to out do there japanese counter parts in my opinion... But eh such is life... Love the channel Ill still be excited to see what ya think of the show... its a masterpiece for me.... Who knows maybe ill appreciate the sub more than the last time I watched it
Stephen husuc
2021-03-24 02:50:40 +0000 UTCHaving read the manga, I can confirm that it's fillerish and am totally fine with you skipping it. I'd prefer you enjoying the story fresh rather than getting filler that hints at stuff.
Ellie
2021-03-24 01:41:41 +0000 UTCOff topic, but I think FMA did a really good job for adapting the manga for the first 10? episodes. unpopular opinion, for the episodes with the same content, I think FMA definitely outdid FMAB. I also prefer its art style than FMAB.
ming
2021-03-24 01:20:40 +0000 UTCYou should watch it
Anna Lena Ciplajevs
2021-03-24 00:34:18 +0000 UTCI didn't read the manga or anything, but it felt to me like the first episode is kinda there to introduce the viewer to the universe in general, but I do agree that it is mostly a filler. Knowing you, you'll probably figure out how everything works regardless.
GeorgeYTG
2021-03-24 00:13:09 +0000 UTCthere is NO point in skipping episode 1. It's like skipping the first episode of Attack on Titan or Death Note. Why would you do that? I swear, some people with their unnecessary complicated suggestions...
Hoveyk
2021-03-23 23:44:45 +0000 UTCA few points after reading through the messages. - Some of the newer Patrons might not know this but FMAB was picked a while ago. - Please refer to the Intro for my Death Note episode 1 reaction for my take on Sub vs Dub, and why my first experience with almost every Anime will always be Sub. - Seeing a lot of interesting takes about FMAB episode 1, for and against. Let’s see how it plays out for a couple of days.
FILMBuFF
2021-03-23 23:33:25 +0000 UTCThe thing is, I think he should just watch the show as it is. He would figure the things out either way. It introduces you perfectly the world and the characters. There is nothing bad about it if he figures something out beforehand. It adds nothing if you watch it afterwards
Sloopgamer
2021-03-23 23:09:30 +0000 UTCAnd not every anime original isn't always equal to filler if it still contributes to the overall themes/story/character
Sloopgamer
2021-03-23 23:06:10 +0000 UTCBut how are you getting spoiled if it's the first episode?
Sloopgamer
2021-03-23 22:53:48 +0000 UTCLol, why should you skip Episode 1. It introduces the characters to you. If you start with episode 2 it will have no meaning afterwards
Sloopgamer
2021-03-23 22:48:00 +0000 UTCI thought episode 1 was a great way to introduce some of the characters. Oh and I know many have said this already but please consider watching the dub
Helos
2021-03-23 22:41:41 +0000 UTCI think its better to watch it. Because ep 2 will throw flashback at you right in the beggining. Imo that flashback has more weight to it if you watch ep1
Владислав Черниенко
2021-03-23 22:18:39 +0000 UTCViolet Evergarden which is on your list only has 12 episodes, I think you should watch this first over everything it is so good
Shay
2021-03-23 22:17:34 +0000 UTCThat's great, but this poll has nothing to do with Im watching sub vs dub.
Serodin
2021-03-23 22:05:37 +0000 UTCPersonally I think the dub is way better than the sub in FMAB
Fung
2021-03-23 21:51:40 +0000 UTCLiterally started FMAB a few days ago and didn’t know about the first episode thing
Muhd Zulhilmi
2021-03-23 20:42:40 +0000 UTChaha thats awesome but... hearing Hange's voice could detract from Ed being his own character
Stephen
2021-03-23 20:34:07 +0000 UTCI still say watch dub but can't go wrong with Romi Park, I guess.
MS94
2021-03-23 20:28:28 +0000 UTCI know,, but Ed being voiced by the same VA as Hanji in the VO is a must !
lumine
2021-03-23 20:27:17 +0000 UTCyup, I really like the first episode (I'm seeing some people slandering it here, not on my watch!) but knowing Im, nah
lumine
2021-03-23 20:25:50 +0000 UTCWould episode 1 of FMAB (2009) be anime original content if FMA (2003) was never an anime though? I feel like episode 1 of FMAB would just start like the manga kinda like in episode 2. My thing is that it feels like Bones specifically made episode 1 of FMAB with returning viewers of FMA in mind back in the day. Since Im never watched FMA, just sticking with the source material of episodes 2-64 seems like a more natural coherent route, to me anyway. Edit : forgot to add that it's Im, he'll dissect whatever episode is in front of him in detail and I'm confident episode 1 will give him way, way too much compared to the average viewer who watched episode 1 and then just moved on immediately to the next one. That's the main reason I suggested it in the first place.
2021-03-23 20:24:42 +0000 UTCoooo can't wait!
999
2021-03-23 20:24:17 +0000 UTCI didn't even think of that (or ever heard of anyone doing it !) I'm hyped for this show !
lumine
2021-03-23 20:23:22 +0000 UTCI just think from a story telling perspective Episode 1 is a better introduction than episode 2 as it wasn’t really designed for that lots of things are just talked about because they were mentioned in episode 1
Will Watches
2021-03-23 20:23:02 +0000 UTCOof, not a fan of the sub version of FMAB compared to dub.
Mithroll
2021-03-23 20:21:51 +0000 UTCYep, Vinland will be the replacement for Shingeki 👌🏼
FILMBuFF
2021-03-23 20:21:48 +0000 UTCHe’s gonna watch the sub, I respect his decision but I do vastly prefer the dub, I’d consider it on par with Cowboy bebop for one of the best dubs of all time, i feel like it’s easier to get the emotional connection to the characters hearing it in your own language
Will Watches
2021-03-23 20:20:46 +0000 UTCdamn, is it really that bad?
Mahni Alizadeh
2021-03-23 20:15:41 +0000 UTCMy question is if you skip when to actually watch episode one? Cos there’s some stuff it foreshadows that would mean not watching it till potentially your into the late 30s
Will Watches
2021-03-23 20:15:23 +0000 UTCIts because the dub is actually better than the sub. The emotional weight of the dialogue is carried even further in the dub than the sub. The dub is the best way for english speakers to enjoy FMAB. The sub is downright blasphemous.
Stephen
2021-03-23 20:13:00 +0000 UTCOff topic but do you have a time frame for when you’ll start Vinland Saga? Perhaps after you finish S4 of Shingeki since there’s gonna be some type of break after the “final” episode.
999
2021-03-23 20:12:31 +0000 UTCThis might not be relevant but FMAB has one of, if not THE, best dub in anime.
Stephen
2021-03-23 20:11:50 +0000 UTCI can definitely see a case for skipping it, but I don’t know. I don’t the think the things it shows really spoil anything (in the literal sense of spoil: making your viewing experience worse) and I think it does a decent job of introducing you to the world while leaving you with questions. (Edit: when I say “decent” I mean better than episode 2) Also, episode 1 exists as part of this show, and this isn’t the manga; it’s the anime. I’ve heard you talk a couple times about experiencing the story as it is presented, whether that be with your preference to sub over dub or with your assertion that classic Doctor Who knowledge should not be a requirement for modern watchers. But maybe you value the mangaka’s original vision over all that. Personally i think if that’s the case you might as well just read the manga, but ehh, now I’m getting opinionated.
SladeClegane
2021-03-23 20:10:34 +0000 UTCOk so I’ve just rewatched ep 2 too see how it’d feel starting there, I’ll try and be as vague as I can, I feel as if starting with episode two you have to do some catching up tho, elements are specifically set up in the first episode, The first episode is better at naturally leading the audience into the rules of alchemy and building up the tension of Al’s armour for the reveal later in the episode (which is kinda just mentioned in a sentence in ep2). but there’s definitely some things Im could pick up on, like Bradley or Issac’s motivation give hints. You don’t really get a natural introduction to alchemy and only the preroll exposition.
Will Watches
2021-03-23 20:08:35 +0000 UTCI'm making a decision based not on my desires but on your style of reviewing. "The majority of you know how I approach a story." I hope everyone else realizes that the first episode gives the audience way too much way too early, and because of the excellent analysis, I would suggest skipping it.
FrogTheJam
2021-03-23 20:03:46 +0000 UTCAgree on the skip. While I don't think it straight up spoils anything, it's a bit on the nose with the hinting. And someone like FilmBuff would definitely get too much out of it. I am pretty sure he will agree if he watches it later.
Stoic Bread
2021-03-23 20:03:13 +0000 UTCI dont think there is a good reason to skip episode one. It‘s just not a good episode and that‘s why some people recommend starting with episode two. When I first wanted to watch FMAB I actually dropped it after the first episode because I really didn’t enjoy it. Some time later I gave it another shot and was instantly hooked after episode 2
Medeses
2021-03-23 20:01:06 +0000 UTCYou would pick up too many things you shouldn't know until later.
Not Pigeons
2021-03-23 19:57:44 +0000 UTCI halfway agree. Yes, it alludes to plot points that appear later down the line, introduces the wide cast of characters fairly well, and introduces the villains too. However, it all feels a little bloated and, while the foreshadowing of certain plot reveals might not get caught by most viewers initially, Im is notoriously perceptive and will likely catch on really quickly. If this were any other person, I'd be all for them watching the first episode.
Leaky Peach
2021-03-23 19:57:20 +0000 UTCHe is always going with the original version so he will be watching subs.
Thanos D. Alexioy
2021-03-23 19:57:14 +0000 UTCI didnt got any hints when i watched it Years ago, but if theres someone who will, thats you haha. Therefore, i think you should skip it
Ham Let
2021-03-23 19:54:15 +0000 UTCOh wow! Thanks for reminding me! I changed my vote to "skip."
Leaky Peach
2021-03-23 19:53:34 +0000 UTC"The majority of you know how I approach a story." This is why he should skip ep1 and watch it later.
bla blubb
2021-03-23 19:51:45 +0000 UTCSkip for sure. It has some hints you could do without.
Azyus
2021-03-23 19:50:22 +0000 UTCEpisode one is fine as an episode, but it adds nothing to the story and it might give you info that you are not supposed to have this early (I know you can put 2+2 together very easily) It will certainly give away some plot points that it would be better if you step into them properly as the story progresses. This is my opinion, having watched the whole thing and looking back at it. The 1st episode created some expectations for me that made me theorize and predict things very early and that would not be the case otherwise. While it doesn't "spoil" anything, it does give some VERY (and i repeat VERY ) strong hints that they may as well count as spoilers. Sephizen has deleted comments way more subtle than the hints you get from episode 1.
Thanos D. Alexioy
2021-03-23 19:50:00 +0000 UTCI consider Episode 1 to be relevant to the plot.
2021-03-23 19:49:32 +0000 UTCTrue that the first episode doesn’t really spoil anything I still think you should skip it to be as blind as possible.
Tsar bomba noble
2021-03-23 19:49:06 +0000 UTCConsidering how easily you get spoiled it might be better for you to skip it
Chelle
2021-03-23 19:47:35 +0000 UTCFuck yeah fma!
marlassett
2021-03-23 19:46:02 +0000 UTCI see no reason to skip it, it doesn't really spoil anything.
TbcAlex
2021-03-23 19:45:48 +0000 UTCI’d say you have to watch it, yeah
Jazzy
2021-03-23 19:45:48 +0000 UTCI like ep 1. Are you gonna watch sub? I’ve only seen the dub and every reactor does the dub so I’m kinda excited to see what the sub is like
Mahni Alizadeh
2021-03-23 19:45:47 +0000 UTCI know there's been discussion about this topic on the internet (about how starting with episode 1 of FMAB is confusing for people who are non-manga readers or people who never watched the original FMA). I also know it's not in the manga and that I personally, in hindsight, wished I didn't watch episode 1 when I binged FMAB a few years ago (I had not read the manga or watched FMA). I'm not the most knowledgeable in Fullmetal Alchemist's optimal viewing experience beyond that so I didn't want to leave that decision to only me, feel free to give your own takes on it.
2021-03-23 19:45:12 +0000 UTCThat guy is crazy lmao you have to watch ep 1
Jeff
2021-03-23 19:44:45 +0000 UTC