The Flash 5x2 Poll!

For the time being, Iris. Even if Iris’s choice was fucked up in the future, THIS Iris didn’t do that. Literally. Nora coming back into the past literally created a new timeline so there’s a chance Iris NEVER puts the chip in Nora. Nora being mad at past Iris is stupid. It’s like being mad at Barry for becoming Savitar.

Jet

I find it interesting that all three shows are focusing on how terrible the future is. Zari's story on Legends is very much focused on how metas are hunted down by ARGUS and it seems that Arrow may also be going down a similar line, so maybe they are trying to tie all shows together to either consolidate or change it for good. In that case I think Iris was justified in supressing Nora's powers. Though I also think Nora is being manipulated by someone as pointed out by Sherloque.

Erika Kobori

On Iris’s side, but I understand Nora’s side too

Considering they emphasized how Barry never caught Cicada and how he has been hunting metas, I feel Iris took away Nora’s powers to hide her from him. True, Iris probably should have told Nora but the latter would have likely kept trying to get her powers back putting her in danger. Tough call.

John M

I side with Nora because...Black Sails

I think is wrong to do this to your child, but another thing that makes me side with Nora is that Iris still doesn't know why she does this in the future but still acts like she knows it's the right decision

Tucker Lobner

I understand that future Iris was probably just looking out for her daughter, but Nora should have been given the choice, or at least have been told about her powers sooner by her mom.

Chris Jarvis

I'm sure some new devolpment will make Iris be in the right. But if meta powers were real and some one supressed them without someone noticing it would be the same as making something think they were blind for thier entire life. It may have been for a good reason but it is still ethicly wrong.

Sheriff Uchiha

I agree with Iris because she lost barry because of speed and she has no powers and the only way to protect her is to dorment them.

Matthew

I'm with Nora. Iris probably has a relatable reason, but Nora has every right to be pissed. This is the type of thing that takes a long time to get over. It was a betrayal on multiple levels: 1) It was a physical violation. Her mom placed a foreign object in her body to control it. 2) Iris took away a connection she has to her father who she lost at a young age. We've clearly seen how much Nora hero worships Barry and has spent her life trying to connect with him and be just like him (becoming a CSI and whatnot). And this was a connection they have that her mother stole from her. 3) He speed is part of who she is that she just had no access to for her whole life. That has to feel like you're missing a part of yourself. 4) Iris lied to her about who she was her entire life and kept this amazing gift a secret from her. Even if this was done to protect her, at a certain age you have to level with her and let her decide. This would be similar to finding out that you were adopted. It would turn your whole life upside down. She doesn't hate Iris or think she's evil, but she's hurt and angry. Regardless of Iris' intentions or reasoning, I can relate to Nora being so upset. It feels like the natural reaction. When we get more info we'll probably understand why, but that doesn't change the pain that Nora is rightfully feeling.

Neil Prospect

You guys made the point that Nora just assumes she's right without knowing all the facts, but present Iris doesn't know her own reason and she's made the same assumption.

Nathan Mortenson

She didn't insult or attack her. She simply was not interested in spending time with her or becoming friend with her.

Doby Greg

For the time being, Nora. Until we know why Iris did what she did, I can't really say I support her decision.

John Wedig

It was wrong for Nora to blame present Iris, but now that Iris supports her future self, I think Nora's attitude "from now on" is kind of justified. not before though.

Nora. I get wanting to do right for your kids but “having a good reason” for putting that chip in her neck is like a parent saying they “had a good reason” for forcing their child to wear a chastity belt.

William Tanner

Iris is definitely in the right, especially if ARGUS was clamping down on METAS in the future. At the same time, we don't have all the information. Nora could be getting manipulated or could obviously know something we don't, since their making it seem like someone else is involved, more than likely shes just a kid rebelling against her parents while being manipulated, Reverse Flash confirmed, LOL.

Definitely iris. Being a parent myself top priority is to keep our children safe. Especially in a world of metas in this case. So if Nora as a child found her speed and accidentally ran to Italy and then to Iris she wouldn’t know where Nora is and Nora being young wouldn’t know how to get home. Keeping her powers suppressed was defiantly the best option and not telling Nora means they don’t have to argue everyday about Nora wanting to use her powers.

BarryAllen1310

To me this entire thing seems dumb. I feel like the writers just wanted Nora to be mad at Iris but didn't really think about why, because I don't see iris's character with everything we know about her doing anything like that.

Jonathan Foreman

Suppressing Nora's powers when she was a child is understandable. Iris could not have dealt with a 2 year old speedster having a temper tantrum, or a 5 year old speedster running around the world getting lost. However, Nora deserved to know the truth. And no matter how "immature" or "selfish" Nora might be acting, after Nora turned 18 Iris had no right to keep it a secret.

Talmet

I'm gonna need to know a little bit more before I choose sides. Also to hopefully ease your concerns about why Joe has been worse for wear, its because jesse l Martin suffered a back injury during the hiatus

We don't know the whole Story yet so I give Iris the benefit of the doubt.

Red Claw

Yea Jon then there is that to Nora is pissed at her future moms choice but its so freaking stupid to take that out on Present day Iris when she has no clue what the reason is or what even goes on this plot point is just so dumb and it just makes Nora seem so immature and stupid

MustacheKash

This entire thing feels off. Especially with Barry defending Iris. I get that's his wife and all but her decision is just a terrible one. Nora is how old? And only knew about her powers for 6 months, meaning even after she turned 18 Iris kept her powers from her. That is wrong regardless of weather or not we're talking about powers.

Jonathan Foreman

You cant take shit out on someone for something they havent even done yet. It's pretty ridiculous. Nora is being a bitch

Jon Dub

Future Iris should have told Nora the reason instead of letting her find out from somewhere else (reverse flash). Let nora make her choices not keep her from making them. Team Nora.

Cadmus Lochlan

Im on Nora’s side, but she doesn’t have to take it out on current Iris. That being said, she does have a point. She wasn’t evil or would have used her powers for ill. She would’ve been a hero like Barry. I know thats what future Iris is probably scared of, but as a hero, its not about you. Its about the greater good and using your abilities to help those in need. Nora deserved to at least have the choice.

Christopher Aviles

She's judging future Iris not present Iris. She only get mad at Iris when she insist on bringing their future history. Most of the time she simply ignores her.

Doby Greg

I only voted for Nora because I just hate Iris. 8/

John FD Lobrano

I'm with nora even though I can understand why iris probably doing it with Barry disappearing. But nora shouldn't judge current iris on acts of future iris

Even though the timeline changed how much has it changed between Zari’s 2045 and Nora’s 2049 where metas and heroes have been outlawed maybe Iris did it to protect her from prosecution easiest way to not let anyone take her is to make sure they don’t know from the start

at first I was on iris side but after thinking about it I think even though I agree iris probably did what she did for good to protect her daughter I feel like she should of told Nora and explained it to her now that she was older to understand and I also think that since she never told Nora she had powers she probably never told her who her dad was and probs made up some story as in why he wasn’t in their life and then Nora found out from and outside sources (reverse flash) that her life was a lie leading her to feel betrayed by her mom who she might of been close to and that he is why she is so angry with her. Just a theory

Antonia Marsh

Just look at the decisions that Nora has made time travel for a very selfish reason to meet her dad and possibly change the future. Eric is definitely right about reverse flash I think he’s the curator of the flash museum in the future and he manipulated Nora to do all of this and he’s the person who helped her discover she had powers.

You can't take away someone's choice even if it is with good intentions.

Matt Hader

Clearly Nora is in the right whether Iris was trying to protect her or not you should never do anything like that to your kid. I'd be super pissed if my parents did something like that to me.

Matt Hader

If Iris did it too somehow protect Nora I would understand it...but I am still on Nora's side. I think she deserved the choice

Flashback007

Iris is hotter

Matthew

I think Barry was the one who put the chip in there and in the fight they had in the future about it, Iris took the blame so Nora would still have an idealistic vision of her dad.

RoadRaf

I understand why iris did it i mean could you imagine a kid just zooms away from u and then u can't find her it would be terrible but i think she should've told her when she turned 18

Dip602

I agree with Max because Long John Silver told me to.

Jake Z

Flash dissapears for like 5th time in crisis for 15 years or however long so her mom stops her speed from working so she doesnt lose her daughter that she loves like she lost her husband yea what a terrible piece of crap mom... Lol come one shits so dumb its a mom caring about her kid not wanting anything bad to happen or for her to go missing like Barry maybe she approached it wrong but Iris is totally justified for caring about her daughter that she loves and Nora is just being a stupid naive brat about it

MustacheKash

I've got 2 ideas which might contradict each other. First, I feel confident that Iris probably tried to hide Nora's abilities to keep her from being anyone's target. Specifically, I think Reverse Flash would be very interested in a new speedster related to Barry after Barry disappears (assuming he didn't also disappear). Second, I think Reverse Flash is almost definitely the person that told her she has powers. He MIGHT also be the person that gave Nora the idea to come to the past. The only reason I could see him messing with time is to save himself from the Crisis.

Cat_Sidhe

Im with Nora

mrgoodwine23

We don't know the reason why Iris did what she did, but I would find it out of character if she didn't have a valid reason as to why. We know that Barry gets lost and doesn't return. Perhaps Iris dampened Nora's power in fear of losing her as well to whatever caused Barry to disappear to begin with. Was it right? Maybe not. But at the very least I think future Iris was simply looking out for the only family she really had left, her only daughter.

Rubi Moon

From watching Legends of Tomorrow season 3, we know that metahumans will have a horrible life in the future. Future Iris was most likely trying to protect Nora from getting captured and mistreated by Argus.

I don't think we have enough information to choose a side. Nora resents having her powers hidden from her, but we have no idea what Iris's reason for doing so was. If we have to choose right now, we have to assume, as Barry does, that there was a good reason.

Tone

I get why Nora is upset but we know enough about Iris’s character to know she had a good reason for doing it. She didn’t do it just to be a bitch. I hope they don’t drag out the reason why for too long though. The relationship melodrama can get tiring if it goes on too long.

Callie Stephen

I'm sure the writers made up a good reason for Iris, but I hate they turned it to one of those secrets that affects relationships for drama, until they get revealed and everyone make up.

Lonahora

I get both of them. Iris probably in her mind had a good reason, but that's still really messed up from Nora's perspective. But shes punishing this Iris for something she hasnt done yet, but it's still part or Nora's truth. Tough situation.

With how upset Iris was about it, I do believe that she must have had a very good reason to do it.

Dylan Carpenter

Nora has a real chip on her shoulder. Jokes aside, what if iris put the chip in because Nora said she did, because timelines and stuff. The thing is I really can’t side with anyone until I know why the action was done, iris could very well have a good reason but the reason could also be paranoid fear or simply be a lack of trust. I think it’s also a dick move for iris to go up to her and say, “hey I know you feel bad about what I did but I probably had a good reason for it” and not even try to think of a reason for why, people change, you might be a good person now, but who knows once Barry is gone is iris gonna stay the same, after all Barry losing iris is what allowed savitar to exist. A good reason could exist, but we have no way to know if it does

Dan Banks

Obviously, future-Iris suppressed Nora's powers because she didn't want to lose her like she lost Barry. But I thought present Iris would have seen this as an opportunity to make a better choice in the future rather than stick by her bad decision. But it was good of Barry to support her in front of Nora and show a united front, even if they're on the wrong side. It also doesn't excuse Nora's behavior towards Iris, especially in this episode.

Darth Skhorrn

If I had to pick one I would say Iris. I do get both sides of the argument though. If this was a past season I would be worried that the writers were just having Future Iris keeping a secret from Nora to make more forced drama, but this season so far has been avoiding that. So I think Iris suppressed Nora's speed for a practical reason as well as an emotional one. Nora's speed could have impacted her in a negative way when she was younger for example and the only way to save her was to take her speed away.

Jjop017

I think theyre both stupid so all hail beebo

At this point I say Nora. Cause as for NOW, Future Iris has taken her Power without any explanation. We could think that shes taken it because of a good reason but we don't know what exactly that is. All that we can say is, she took Noras Speed cause Future Barry wanted to save the World.. again and she didn't want that for her. But this doesn't mean that you have to take a Future Speedster's Power just caus a World Changing Event COULD happen, yet again. What if something happens and they don't have a Team, like the Seaons 1 Finale! Maybe they could have get Barry backt if they fully explained to Nora what the Deal is. It would be like Season 1 to 5,6,7,8 or so for Nora. Like with Barrys Mom it would be the same deal as with Noras Dad, Barry. BUT I'm so GLAD that scene happened with Barry taking Iris's side no matter what! Maybe Papa Joe didn't tell her, Cecille didn't tell her. Reverse Flash maybe? I hope.

I'm with Iris. I think she was trying to protect her from some future danger we don't know about yet. And honestly, I've yet to see anything from Nora that shows me she would've been responsible and mature enough for Iris to just tell her the truth. 6 months and she's already messing with the timeline. Whatever Iris was protecting her from, Nora would've had to face it without Barry to guide her. I understand why Iris wasn't taking chances with her child's life.

fireangellc

They’re both wrong. Suppressing Nora’s powers was a horrible violation and keeping it a secret from her even worse. There’s no way Iris can justify that. But it’s also wrong for Nora to blame present-Iris for something she might never do—remember, we’re in a new timeline now!

Jen A. Blue

I think it could have something to do with the anti meta-human act of 2021 from Legends. Between Diggle and Lyla's super spy mission on arrow this week and this I feel like we might be moving towards some shady A.R.G.U.S. business later this season. And Eric's totally right. Reverse Flash is masterminding this whole thing behind the scenes.

Hi guys, I'm from Argentina, so maybe my syntax isn't that good but... what if Iris did what she did because she must do it? Maybe, her future version knows that she must be hated by her daughter to make her travel through time and it is all part of a huge paradox to save Barry from Crisis...

Miramos Cine y Series

There's a meta killer out there that even Supergirl couldn't beat. (Plus if the Argus thing is canon, that's pretty bad too) Iris probably didn't want her daughter to be a part of that life because she'd have a high chance of either imprisonment or death.

Gezno

I really doubt it. She's been real competent this season. I honestly really feel for her.

Gezno

‪“I am sure I had a good reason” is very SHITTY way to explain yourself or apologize she could just explain the reasons why she would’ve suppressed her powers in the future or anything other than I am sure I had a good reason. it sounds very EGOTISTICAL (btw I like how Barry supported his wife and I do think she had a good reason for what she did. But I think at least she should’ve told her about it at least when she turned 18)‬ what do you think ?

salman

Not relating to the poll, but Jesse Martin did hurt his back during the season break and will be taking a medical leave of absence during the show.

I 100% agree. That “You did it to control me line” feels so much like something RF would say to try and get in Nora’s head

Adam Lenz

On Iris's side, especially if the Flash himself believes the reason must've been good. Probably to do with why Flash disappeared. I also have the feeling Reverse Flash is the one who told her about her powers and probably removed the dampener.

Cameron Mason

Saying Nora, but only because I think the story will favour Iris, and I want something different.

Alex

I think RF is manipulating Nora into thinking Iris did that to control her and not to protect her

Iris’side for sure. I don’t think she would just have done it without a good reason. Also for all we know future Barry and the rest of team Flash was in on the decision. I would honestly be willing to bet Cisco made the inhibitor chip that she used

Adam Lenz

Even if she didn't give a choice she should have be given an explanation for the decision.

Doby Greg

Little of A, little of B in my opinion. I'm sure it would be impossible for a normal human to keep a super speed toddler safe, and even as a teenager, she might not have been emotionally mature enough to handle the powers. However, I draw the line at Iris not telling her even as an adult. I can understand that maybe there were threats to her life like Cicada or the stuff from Legends, or maybe Iris was just afraid that she would get lost in the Speed Force or something like that. Iris, however, should have explained this to her clearly and let her make the decision on her own once Nora became an adult.

Subaru130

While I do think Nora is in her right to be mad I prefer Barry actually standing by his wife and reassure her rather than throw her under the bus for a possible future decision he doesn't know the context of.

Doby Greg

She hasn't done anything to Iris. She's just not interested in spending time or becoming with her. It's the first time she gets mad at Iris and it's because she is insisting on bringing their future relationshionship.

Doby Greg

Iris had already lost Barry she just didn't want to lose Nora. Also in her timeline she already said they never caught Cicada. If she starts running around trying to be Barry, which clearly what would have happened, it would just be painting a target on her back

Reece Hart

If things are on track for the future that the Legends have seen then it makes total sense that Iris would hide her daughter’s powers. In Zari’s time metas are hunted fugitives. Of course Iris would do whatever she could to keep her daughter from being locked up.

John M

I dont even watch the show anymore but I already know Iris is wrong

MOB12

I would be on Iris side due to the fact that at a young age she might not have been able to keep the secret that she was a speedster but I believe Iris should have told her when she reached 18 at least.

Travis Taylor

I mean if you lost the person you loved the most because of something and then you found out that your child also had the same thing that made you lose your loved one then would you not also do whatever you could to remove it

Nathan Armitage

Also the Anti Meta Human legislation that we know would be effect in that time period.

Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)

Not to mention the fact that Nora and Zari would come from a similar future in which Meta Humans are illegal and locked in prison no matter their age.

Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)

Given the fact that we have seen the future in which Meta Humans are illegal and that future would be one in which Nora most likely grew up. Especially given that Zari is from that future and Zari is older than Nora.

Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)

She had an incredibly invasive surgery to have her powers supressed without her knowledge or consent and then lied to about it. There is no rational there, those are the actions of someone who is controlling to the point of toxicity, especially when you remember Iris had the same thing happen to her with her Mom and Dad. Iris is the epitome of a selfcentered high horse

Calivsak

Well Nora and Zari would come from essentially the same future where those laws are in effect.

Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)

Also we have to remember that Nora and Zari would come from the same future. The future where being a meta human gets you locked up

Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)

On a less serious note: your discussion about what type of power impacting whether or not you'd suppress a child's power made me think. If Nora had speed as a child, would Iris have needed to suppress her powers in order to keep track of her. If Nora used her speed as a 2 or 3 year old, Iris could never catch her.

mldirish14

Nora. Completely. 100%. The fact that Barry is incapable of thinking that Iris made a mistake in grief is astoundingly aggravating. This is the same thing Joe did to her and now she thinks she can take the high road because the shoe is on the other foot. At least Iris was being true to her character, ie someone who has a need to control everything and shut out everything that isnt an echo of. her opinions.

Calivsak

It's been 6 months and I'm pretty sure she basically went from getting her powers to going back into the Past so she herself has not had any time to really address the Whys of what Iris did. She pretty much had an argument with her mom and ran away. Plus we don't know how Iris was as a single Mother, they may not have been that close too begin with.

Ryan Witalison

Citizen Cold’s side

I Am Groot

This is a really difficult decision, and I don't know all the facts, but since I'm waiting for the shoe to drop on who told Nora to go to this point in the past I'll go with Iris.

Joel

So I guess technically by using your metaphor (spoilers ahead for Game of Thrones) what Iris did is no different from what Ned Stark did with Jon Snow? Right?

I feel that Nora is just hurt and refuses to be rational. But still too early for me to be sure. Also it is actually spelled XS not Excess.

Grayson Replicas

Damn that was a lot longer of a comment than I realized lol

There really should have been an option for undecided or something. Considering we don’t knowing all the facts. Because honestly there could be more than one specific reason future Iris does what she does. She could do it originally for a selfless reason but as time passed and the longer she was hiding the fact that Nora was a meta those reasons could evolve to become selfish. But also on the other hand Nora has every right to be upset about it either way. However, she does need to realize that this Iris while yes is technically the same person as future Iris that present day Iris isn’t the same as future Iris. Present day Iris doesn’t have all the same life experiences that future Iris does. Nora needs to understand that she can’t punish her mother for something that she hasn’t technically done yet. Just like we can’t arrest and punish people for crimes they may commit in the future. She should punish her mother for something she has yet to do.

Unless her future reason is "I don't care for that one." *puts power dampening device in Nora* I'll side with Iris.

tsujoi

If cicada was never caught and he kills people with powers then I can see Iris protecting her from being killed. Her husband goes missing for over 20 years she doesn’t want to lose her daughter. Children find it hard to understand their parents because they have no frame of reference for their actions. She would probably do the same if she was the mother whatever the true reason is.

LKG

Iris can claim she "did it out of love" all she wants, if you do something because you are afraid of losing someone close to you, you are doing that thing out of fear. And that's before you take into the fact she never even let Nora know that she had powers in the first place, that's like being in line to the throne of a country, and finding out your mother kept that from you because she doesn't want a child with more power than her.

Scott Hadden Jnr

I feel like we've only heard Nora's side of the story. Until we learn Iris' actual reason for doing what she did, I'm gonna wait on my judgement. I get the feeling that Nora probably didn't ask future Iris for her reasons and just assumed. On the other hand, I'm not just gonna buy into the fact that Iris' reasons must be noble because that's who she is in Barry and Iris' present. Barry disappearing could have drastically changed her. Even if Barry and Iris are correct in their assumptions, thinking its the right thing to do doesn't necessarily mean it was or that there wasn't another option.

mldirish14

Without knowing all the details it's too hard to say. It could be Iris did it for selfish reasons or it could be she did it for selfless reasons without knowing why I just can't say

WhateverIFeelLike

I’m going with Iris and Barry. Gotta hand it to the writers though Nora is as bad as taking in information as season 1 Iris. I think that Iris did it either cause she wanted to stop her from trying to save Barry from disappearing or cause she is a normal mom and had to deal with a little speedster baby

ChiefChill

It’s hard to say. I see both sides of the argument. Iris wants to keep Nora safe but Nora wanted to have a choice in that decision. I choose iris because we don’t know Nora’s full backstory as of yet. But we have seen iris deal with speedsters and the death that usually follows them. Eddy,HR, Wally, and Barry have all suffered from having powers or being associated with speedsters so as a mother iris would want to keep Nora safe above all else even if it causes distance between them.

Christopher simeon

You can’t treat her like a crazy lobotomist without knowing the context or her intentions. What if this was the only way to keep Nora alive? What if she only found out about her powers because a villain is using and manipulating her?

Able

I side with Nora but not because Iris is wrong. It's the part of her that link her to a father she admire, miss and never got to know. And the one who did it and never told her it existed is her closest family that saw how hard that loss was on her. She's allowed to feel betrayed and pisssed even if Iris was right to take it away.

Doby Greg

I think this is the first debate in CW superhero history where I'm not sure who I agree with. I'm sure Iris had a reason, but why not tell Nora?

Nathan Mortenson

I think Nora might feel like she could’ve somehow helped get Barry back after crisis if she knew she had her powers. So i’m with Nora

Ryan O'Malley

Without more information as to what could justify such an extreme act, which sometimes responsible people do have to commit, I side with Nora from an individual and meta-human rights POV.

The Amish Electrician

We don't know the whole story.

Tumbili

I see where Iris is coming from, but it’s also a lot for Nora, it’s the one thing that she has of her dad besides stories. I don’t want to side with either because both are wrong in ways and both are right, but I feel like my want for people to be who they want to be rules out controlling someone to “keep them safe” I don’t think Nora should be STILL holding the grudge, but her grudge isn’t wrong

grimmEquinox

You don't know that Iris isn't.

Fajen Thygia

The argument that Iris would always have a good reason assumes that Barry's disappearance wouldn't change Iris.

Fajen Thygia

I understand Nora’s position and how she must feel but I don’t agree on the grudge she is holding on Iris because this Iris hasn’t done anything yet. I guess for Nora this is the only Iris she is in contact now to get mad at. I think there is more obviously of the story and we shouldn’t decide until you have both sides. I can almost imagine Barry doing that instead of Iris and Iris taking the blame in order to preserve the image Nora had of her father.

Zagnite Arizmendi

I'm all fine with the decision up until Nora turned 18... i mean imagine managing a speedster daughter during teenage years... and even then I still understand why Iris did what she did but i don't approve. Unless of course the Anti-Meta human Laws (seen on LoT) are still active in the future in which case I would do the same.

Adar

I get both sides of the argument but we don't know if that is all that's happened since Barry disappeared was she afraid,controlling? There's gotta be more

Rix

They both have valid arguments but I tend to side with parents here. It was a violation but without more info I believe it was in an attempt to protect her daughter. We may not understand all our parents motives, but we should understand their want to protect us at all cost.

Andrew Courtney

I think it's complicated, however, Iris's whole thing in earlier seasons was being angry with Joe for keeping secrets to protect her. Until he eventually realized it was her life and her choice how to live it. So I'm with Nora. At the very least, she should've told her when she turned 18 and gave her the choice.

Brandi H

Iris did a horrible inhumane act on Nora. She lied to her and literally put an implant in her body. What kind of mother does that. It’s like lobotomizing someone for being gay

Gavin Mcfadden

I understand Nora feeling betrayed, but she should understand that her parents aren’t trying to control her just for the sake of it.

Able