ATEEZ(에이티즈) - 'Treasure' Dance Practice
Added 2023-12-07 02:55:45 +0000 UTCINTRO - 0:00
REACTION - 1:52
ANALYSIS - 5:44
OUTRO - 37:51
Comments
OH BOY!!! Get ready Shelly!!! It's going to be wild!!! (And fun fact: It's still going haha)
Jessica Holyfield
2024-01-22 08:14:36 +0000 UTCOk, I’m officially starting my ATEEZ/Jessica journey! Even if I don’t comment on all of your analysis, I’ll be watching them in order and will love every moment I’m sure. Excited!! For Treasure, I’m glad you pointed out the “Say My Name” slide… I never noticed it. Anyway, your reaction is great to watch and I look forward to hearing your thoughts as you go through their dance practices and watch their growth.
Shelly Price
2024-01-21 20:41:36 +0000 UTCThank you so much and I'm really happy you have made your way on here!!! Woohoo!! It's a Patreon Party!! My goal is to know about half of the members by the time I catch up on their Dance practices!!
Jessica Holyfield
2023-12-13 09:32:37 +0000 UTCGotcha! thank you for that clarification!!
Jessica Holyfield
2023-12-13 09:31:32 +0000 UTCDouble comment because I forgot to add: the kind of weird texture at 32:48 is them doing the huddle and foot movement that goes with their group chant (8 makes one team). So it’s really a fan nod rather than choreo.
mybrainisonfire
2023-12-13 04:12:18 +0000 UTCHI! I enjoyed your reactions so much I got impatient and here I am - I’ve actually never used Patreon before! I know you posted this a few days ago and maybe there’s some chat elsewhere but in case there isn’t and in answer to your questions: yes, crazy hat is San! Purple hair man is Mingi - maybe he’s been pointed out in other videos but he tends to be an easy member to identify as he’s their deep voice rapper (he’s the one with the mic prop in Crazy Form). ETA because I hit enter too early: I wish I could tell you who their various choreographers are but I’ve never figured out a good place to consistently find that information. Your google fu is no doubt better than mine on that. I’ve seen a lot of fans assume that BBT do it themselves but I get the impression that other choreographers are almost always involved.
mybrainisonfire
2023-12-13 03:55:14 +0000 UTCYESSS
Jessica Holyfield
2023-12-08 18:14:23 +0000 UTCSo exciting to see you getting into their title tracks! While each Ateez member still has that individuality in how they dance, they've definitely gotten better at blending together (still maintaining the personality) as they've continued to perform as a team :D
Claire Hamilton
2023-12-08 16:05:46 +0000 UTCI 100% agree with you on Treasure feeling like a b-side or a second title track (similar to illusion) :)
Claire Hamilton
2023-12-08 16:01:10 +0000 UTCThank you for saying so. I am a much older fan to be fair (mid 30s) and I really like to consume my media analytically and really break down why things hit so well for me. There are a lot more of us out there, but certain fan spaces have different cultures and tones for sure. You will get a very different discourse on twitter than you would reddit or instagram or tiktok or whatever and for every one of those each fandom has it's own tone and culture as well. It's kind of a fascinating social science experiment lol. In general though I think it's really important to curate your fan experience by blocking accounts that tends toward criticism and following more open minded fan accounts. My twitter feed is pretty much all hag multi stans and it really makes for a much better consumer experience to be able to talk about ALL of the good music and performances.lol
Lauren Freeman
2023-12-07 07:48:55 +0000 UTCThat’s why you are one of the best fans I’ve ever met and interacted with! Low key I feel the best part about having the Patreon space is I got the privilege of meeting some freaking great fans of these groups and you all have been so incredibly helpful, civil, and respectful towards me and those around and that truly makes me feel honored!
Jessica Holyfield
2023-12-07 07:39:42 +0000 UTCI'll check it out! Thanks. I didn't feel super strongly about it until Anze discussed it and he put out his kind of non-apology because I think unintentional copying happens in art but I would have liked at least a positive spotlight shown on the original choreo and choreographer by Vata if nothing else because as a creative I'm sure he's been on the other end of something like this. Shit happens but when someone feels harmed or victimized I think it is the compassionate thing to do to try to mitigate it as much as possible. I stay away from a lot of ATINY fan spaces though because they can get messier than i prefer to be a part of lol.
Lauren Freeman
2023-12-07 07:37:13 +0000 UTCIt’s the SMF video of all the choreographies of the Leader Class! I talk about it when it was Vatas turn to go!
Jessica Holyfield
2023-12-07 07:30:02 +0000 UTCI do think the nuance of say my name is different because of the texture, how far it goes and the way it turns and the sauce applied but I see what you mean for sure. I haven't seen your discussion of it though so I'll have to dig around for that
Lauren Freeman
2023-12-07 07:28:36 +0000 UTCJust checked and verified what you said as well! This is going to be interesting…. Because as you noticed as I did, that front glide has been used in ATEEZ Choreo from treasure…. Not just say my name.. which also means if Josh Smith and Anze were not a part of this Choreo team, then they may have done the same thing Vata did, but to ATEEZ themselves. EDIT: it’s at 3:41 for reference!
Jessica Holyfield
2023-12-07 07:16:07 +0000 UTCTo my knowledge I'm pretty sure he did not participate until the second album. I think he only choreographed Say My Name, Illusion and Wave from the next mini album and then Wonderland from the first studio album. His original choreography demos are on his youtube channel.
Lauren Freeman
2023-12-07 07:13:10 +0000 UTCI guess my main question is did Anze or his team choreograph Treasure, or take part in this part of ATEEZ debut? Or did they come in later?
Jessica Holyfield
2023-12-07 07:07:53 +0000 UTCVideo of her teaching pirate king from the predebut show. Ugh I can't believe it's been 5+ years I've stanned these babies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBS9AmQ6OBs
Lauren Freeman
2023-12-07 06:07:08 +0000 UTCAlso I know Rie Hata choreographed pirate king but I can't find confirmation on treasure so maybe it was her but also maybe not
Lauren Freeman
2023-12-07 06:05:10 +0000 UTCCan you help me figure out who choreographed both of these tracks? I couldn’t figure that out for the life of me 😂😂
Jessica Holyfield
2023-12-07 06:04:33 +0000 UTCI will make sure I watch pirate king before crazy form!!
Jessica Holyfield
2023-12-07 06:04:09 +0000 UTCI mentioned that this and pirate king were like co-title tracks, but to this day Treasure always feels like the b-side to Pirate King because Pirate King is so core to their lore AND feels much more ATEEZ (as the brand has developed). This is so mellow comparative to it and their general sound scape they tend to use for their titles. Hope you will watch pirate king then check out crazy form (hopefully the dance practice will be out soon)
Lauren Freeman
2023-12-07 06:01:57 +0000 UTC
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