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The End...?

The first Evil Inc comic appeared on May 30, 2005. The strip has been posting 5-6 days a week, continuously since that date, making it officially 10 years old.

During that time, we've seen alternate dimensions, other worlds, and domestic conflicts. Countless characters have been introduced, past secret revealed, and personalities deepened. There have been relationships that have ended (Lightning Lady and Keagan), relationships that have started (Desdemona and Iron Dragon), relationships that have deepened (Cap and Miss Match) and relationships that have been revealed (Commander and Ms Amazing). We've seen new faces added as Oliver joined Oscar as his little brother / other-dimensional doppleganger. And we've seen old faces, like Evil Atom's, weather fortune, ruin and redemption.

And hopefully, we've shared a few laughs along the way.

But 10 years is a *lot* of storytelling — a lot of continuity. And I have to admit... I'm at a crossroads. This is a perfectly good time to wrap everything up, and move on to another project. (Don't panic... keep reading...)

While I was at Special Edition: NYC a few weeks ago, I was fortunate enough to spend some time with Phil Foglio. This was especially therapeutic for me on a number of levels. The popularity of an X-rated version of Evil Inc caught me mostly by surprise, and I wanted to get the thoughts of someone who had "been there." (If you've never read Foglio's XXXenoverse graphic novels, I highly recommend them. They're the gold standard for adult comics.)

I shared with him that I was feeling a little lost where the Evil Inc comic strip was concerned. And the NSFW comics were adding a considerable wrinkle to that. Should Evil Inc, the strip, end to make way for Evil Inc After Dark? Would ending the strip harm EiAD? Do I really want to end Evil Inc — or do I want to evolve it?

"That's the problem," said Phil, "most of you webcomics guys are still riding your first horse."

That's true. Although "Greystone" was technically my "first horse," it evolved almost seamlessly into "Evil Inc."

The discussion then turned towards examples of creators who had failed to evolve over time — and the effect that this failure to embrace change had on their art, their comics and their careers.

That locked it. Staying the course just wasn't going to sit well with me. So, I've decided to evolve.

But — to be completely honest — I've yet to decide what shape that evolution will take.

Ending Evil Inc

No. Not yet, at least. I like this universe too much. Evil Inc will continue. The question is: "How"?

Rebooting Evil Inc

I'm really leaning towards this option. There are characters I want to re-imagine and relationships I'd like to re-address. Evil Inc 2.0 would likely see Captain Heroic and Miss Match unmarried. In fact, all of the current relationship would likely dissolve. Characters like Lightning Lady, who have aged throughout the comic, would probably get younger. Oscar and Oliver — if they appear at all — would be someone else's kids. Evil Atom is a good character, but the recent storyline with Dr. Whoosh and Death Fog convinced me that he'd be better as a combination of himself and Dr. Whoosh — who seems to effortlessly glide between wisdom and dementia from sentence to sentence. I love Memo, but the storytelling possibilities are quite limited with him.

Scott Kurtz rebooted PvP — and made it a much better strip as a result. The same is true of Kris Straub's Starslip.

I dunno. It might be time to do this with Evil Inc.

Wait... "might be"...?

Yeah. I still don't have a clear image of it in my mind. And as a result, I've had several weeks of the most severe Writer's Block I've experienced in 15 years of daily comics.

So, I've started a storyline this week that's going to face me to address the issue.

And although I have an idea of how it's going to end, it is very much written in sand.

The end of the comic strip?

Beyond rebooting the universe from a storytelling aspect, I've been spending a lot of time re-thinking how I approach Evil Inc as a comic.

There were two reasons Evil Inc was presented to you as a comic strip. First, I come from a generation that equated success in comics with being published in a newspaper. And, over the past 15 years, I've had that to varying degrees. At its peak, Evil Inc was appearing in four or five newspapers in America. It has been at the top of the comics page of the Philadelphia Daily News since 2001.

But there's so little money in newspaper syndication (or, in my case, self-syndication), that I don't even bother with outreach anymore. The little bit of income that self-syndication was generating was easily replaced by Patreon within the first couple months.

The second reason Evil Inc as a comic strip was that, in 2000, when the comic launched, that was the best way to generate a dedicated readership on the Web. Daily updates brought readers back at such a frequency that, sooner or later, you'd bet added to someone's bookmarks (or, later, RSS reader)... and that made you a daily stop for that reader for a long time to come.

But people don't consume Web entertainment the way they did in 2000. Since Google killed off its RSS reader, that has become a smaller factor in overall readership. Heck, I'm beginning to doubt whether younger Web-users even use bookmarks anymore.

So... why am I doing a daily comic strip?

What else would you do?

When I look at Scott's Table Titans, I get really excited about cribbing that approach for myself. It updates twice a week with an expanded chunk of storytelling — usually two rows of panels. What you might not know is that Scott plans these updates as half-pages of the Table Titans graphic novels. When it's time to prep the book, he assembles the half-pages into full pages and he's off to the printer. He even sits down at the beginning of each new chapter to plot out the breakdowns of those half-pages... so the final pages look great and work as an overall book.

It would mean a more story-focused Evil Inc, and less set-up/punchline/set-up/punchline. And, after 15 years of daily punchlines, I have to admit, I'd like to write humor that went a little deeper than the current format allows.

What do you think?

But, like I said, none of this is final, and I'm still wrapping my head around it. What I want to know *now* is... what do you think? I know readers hate change. I know the first reaction is to keep it the way it is. But, I've got to tell you, I've seen less and less book sales at comic conventions. If that's an indication that I need to re-think my approach, I want to stay ahead of the curve.

Evil Inc will continue. But it may be a rebooted Evil Inc. And it may become less of a strip and more of a graphic novel. Hell, if Patreon proves sustainable, I have to honestly consider putting the majority of my time behind EiAD and let the webcomic take a secondary role. I honestly don't know yet. And that not-knowing is probably one of the most exciting prospects I've had in the last five years.

I've rambled enough. What are your thoughts?

Comments

Whatever you do, please don't reboot it. Or if you do don't trash the major relationships. I sometimes wonder if authors realize how invested people become in the relationships in their stories. (If you aren't sure go to any fan forum and post that character x is much better with character y and stand back to watch the sparks fly.) If you feel that you have hit the end of the line with Cap and Miss Match, then just continue in the direction you have been moving, pick another minor character and develop them. Leave someone with a happily ever after, and pick a new person and relationship to explore. Evil inc is a big universe. Anyway, that is my two cents.

Michael Knopp

I’m never sure that, as a reader, feedback is ever great. It’s your creation and if you want to change it and make it different that’s understandable. Keith Giffen once wrote an article (I think for CBR) that talked about how continuity was an anchor to creativity. Personally, I loved his work on the Ambush Bug and The Heckler, but hated his stint on the new JLI (although I did appreciate the Booster/Beetle characterization in hindsight). Point being, that I think any reboot or large change may bring a mixed bag of response in any case. That being said, I have thoroughly enjoyed how you have developed the Evil Inc. universe and think you can expand it more without having to reboot everything. As others have suggested, take one regular character and move them to an alternate universe and go from there so you can develop new ideas. (I seem to recall during one DC's many Infinite Crisis series; they basically moved Power Girl from Earth-1 to Earth-2 and had her discover how different things were. They didn't stay with it, but I found it to be one of the better ideas they scrapped.) It may be cheesy, but you don't wipe the slate - in case somewhere down the line you find yourself wanting to come back to the original characters. While I understand the need to creatively make things unique or interesting, this latest trend of superhero rebooting at the Big Two in all forms is getting unnecessary. Unless your intent is to parody that trend. ;-) Even if a reboot is the way you go, the one thing I hope you wouldn’t change is the Miss Match/Captain Heroic relationship. While the gimmick part (superhero married to supervillain; will they keep their secret?) is kind of past, you’ve done a great job developing those characters beyond that. I don’t know if writing married couples is boring or difficult to do, and that’s why they keep getting reset (see Clark & Lois; Peter & Mary Jane; heck – even poor Ralph & Sue), but I don’t totally get why making them single would make for a better story. Heck, making them divorcees and those consequences might just be as unique. As far as the EiAD concept that's been going well as you say - I think that's something that needs to be considered more if you want to expand it greatly. Right now - it's newer and different and interesting as an addition to the regular comic (I’ll confess curiosity about it for sure – you had done a good job selling the concept in the regular website). And it’s helped by the fact that you draw your characters really well for that kind adult humor/display, I’d say. Financially, it could really be good – so there’s that. But I guess I would ask if you feel like – creatively, since that seems to be part if what you are discussing here - there’s enough material/motivation for it. Courting Disaster seems to work as one-panel gags that you’ve done for a long while; but is there enough material to do EiAD as a longer story form (like Xxenophile did) or just remain a porn/Adult joke approach (I’m thinking more like Oglaf does)? Sorry if that is a rambling wall of text. But good luck on whatever approach you take.

A. Martin

Have considered doing the reboot and adding in some of the after dark flare to the original/reboot and giving the full panels here for Patrons, it would allow you to tell the story's you want and keep the energy the after dark is giving

Steven

I think the most important thing, is that you are doing what you need to continue to be creative. I personally would hate to see you stop creating, I've actually enjoyed when you've changed things up, especially when you've gone beyond daily panels. You are not the only artist currently struggling with this (see <a href="http://www.girlswithslingshots.com/)," rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.girlswithslingshots.com/),</a> I believe we all would have no problem with using us a guinea pigs for ideas and directions. Going to a reset can work very well, Dave Willis has done this repeatedly with his work (<a href="http://www.dumbingofage.com," rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.dumbingofage.com,</a> <a href="http://www.shortpacked.com," rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.shortpacked.com,</a> <a href="http://www.itswalky.com)." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.itswalky.com).</a> I tend to look at EI-AD as following this model, as so far I haven't seen anything in EI being affected by EI-AD or even EI affecting the EI-AD direction except via the characters. As far as comparison to Oglaf vs EI-AD, I see EI-AD as too new to be assessed as missing world building, Oglaf didn't really have that for over a year of weekly panels. As far as format and frequency are concerned, I tend to visit EI on a weekly basis instead of daily, so my view tends to be more story oriented than one-shot (although Break Room is the strip that sold me on EI). When you look at Tatsuya Ishida's Sinfest (<a href="http://www.sinfest.net)," rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.sinfest.net),</a> he mixes daily single panels with Sunday multi-panels quite successfully.

Brian

My thoughts about a reboot are torn. I like Evil Inc. the way it is, but a reboot just might be awesome. I don't follow the after dark version, but meh that is just me. But turning the whole thing into graphic novel form only, well, you would loose me there. Sorry. Just my two cents to go along with my Patreon pledge. I await seeing where you decide to go.

Edward Lott

My thought is that you don't need to reboot but delve into the origins of these characters- doesn't necessary even need to be in gag-a-day or comic strip format. You've spent a lot of time developing interesting characters we know and like, but I often wonder about how they came to his point in their lives. Of the top of my head, I'd lie to see: * I imagine Fairmont City during the 60's and 70's were an interesting place to live and work in. Through in Commander Heroic doing battle with Evil Atom and I can see lots of directions yo cold go. * How did a superhero like Cap fall in love and court a villianess Miss Match?How did mom and dad react to that? I bet there is lots of emotional and moral issues you could address either seriously or lightly. (Plus, lots of EI-AD sidebar potential.) *What was it like for Cap to grow up with superhero parents and burgeoning superpowers? Talk about teen angst! *For that matter, how about Miss Match growing up? Why did she choose evil? We've only gotten a brief glimpse of her family background. Those are just a few ideas off the top of my head, but you've laid a solid foundation on which to build upon; plus setting the strip in the past gives you lots of opportunities for social and cultural satire.

Bill Harris

My thoughts are that if you need to change the comic/do a reboot, then please do it!! If that means I'll still be able to read your comics in one form or another and still appreciate your acerbic wit, then I'm all for that! But with respect to EIAD, I really appreciate it because it allows me to see the "naughtier" side of characters that have been developed in the main format. Sort of like being a bit of a voyeur and being allowed to see something that I shouldn't. But I'm sure that in the end, you'll be produce an exceptional comic no matter what course you take!

Keith

I'm always torn when it comes to a reboot. Sometimes it's necessary to develop more stories, move things forward. There's a reason that comics keep making big changes in order to try to shake things up, because it helps to keep things from getting stagnant. I'll be honest, I'm a fan of moving around who is who among the Marvel characters: Jane Foster as Thor, Sam Wilson as Cap, Miles Morales as Spiderman. That being said, there are certain things I would hate to see end as a result of a reboot. Probably the one "Let's fix things!" storyline that has left a foul taste in my mouth more than any other is the One More Day storyline with Spider-Man. It made absolutely no sense. Even some of the people on the creative team had to be begged to keep around because they didn't like how it was going down. Mary Jane and Peter were my second favorite Super Hero couple, and they worked really well together. To say they wanted to break them up to tell more stories was lazy storytelling in my opinion. Mary Jane was Peter's rock and helped to keep it on a human level and relatable. The argument that it helped kids to relate to Peter better was lame because they just threw him into the dating scene anyway. As you can imagine, I'm referring to one couple you talked about splitting up in the case of a reboot...and that's Cap and Miss Match. Having followed their relationship for years, I'd find it hard to see them not together. They've developed into a strong, loving, but flawed couple that reflects a lot of the issues that many face in their own relationships. To see them split up for...reasons? It's not a deal breaker, but I wouldn't be a fan. Alternative to the reboot, you can always pull an MC2. In other words, let the old cast age into back up character status and introduce a new generation. Not all of them would need to be the offspring of established characters, but how awesome would it be to tell stories of Oscar and Oliver being arch nemesis, then having to come to Thanksgiving dinner and behave themselves? Just a thought.

Gabers

Do what you need to do. The reboot you're considering sounds more like what Willis did with Dumbing of Age as a reboot of the Walkyverse than either of the reboots you name as an example (while I recognized it as a reboot at the time, PVP changed so little it took me a moment to remember what the change was). I have at times found the current incarnation of EI's gag-a-day nature a bit more old school newspapery than where my tastes actually lie, but I counted it as the charm of the strip. If you feel hemmed in by it, feel free to go in a new direction. I'll be here. I still use RSS (the day Google announced they were sunsetting Reader I tried three to five different RSS apps and settled on Feedly), but I don't think I ever had Evil Inc in my subscriptions that way. I may have had an email subscription for a while, but as my daily-read comics list expanded, I ended up building a homegrown page linking to all those comics. I have a small collection of bookmarks, mostly just pages I visit several times a day and can cut down to just an icon in my bookmarks bar. Pocket (Read it Later) has replaced most of what I used to use bookmarks for.

Peter Wood

I think it is important to shake things up after an extended period of doing the same things. EIAD without a form of EI would be unsuccessful in my opinion.

Norman Davis


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