FELLOW TRAVELER E8 FINALE - REACTION
Added 2023-12-19 18:04:53 +0000 UTC
Bam! bet you weren't expecting a double bill today and a season treat to finish off this series just in time for the holidays. This has be a huge journey and we were absolutely ruined by the end (as you can see from the thumbnail) But it was worth every second
Ultimately: A Fantastic Top Tier Representation Show - which is what we like to see here at ASWT! We hope you have enjoyed this series as much as us
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I had no idea but discovered just recently : Cohn was a mentor to Trump in his later life. His relationship to the truth and making it whatever you say it is…really has lived on. Welp. Thanks for covering this series!!!
allaluce
2024-06-13 01:13:59 +0000 UTC
I think "inconvenient" was that the more time Tim & Hawk spent together, the harder it was getting for Hawk to maintain his facade of indifference. He was always in love with Tim. He loved Tim, more than anyone, ever. The more time they spent together, the more he felt it. You see that at the very end, as Hawk embraces Tim as he is, and himself as he should have been. Hawk was trying to protect himself, Lucy, his unborn child and Tim by having him sent away. "What the eye can't see, the heart doesn't grieve over" was always a bloody big lie.
Jacqueline Hahn
2024-06-12 22:49:22 +0000 UTC
The only other person Hawk has bottomed with was Kenny his first love. The reason he only bottomed with Kenny and Tim was because he only did it with someone he really loved and felt secure with because he always had to be in control and to him bottoming was giving up his control.
Jeannette Peacock
2024-05-14 22:16:16 +0000 UTC
I had watched this series when it was first released and also watched your YouTube reactions. I just completed the Patreon series. I was so great to get your reactions. This series was beautiful and heart breaking at times. I remember when the last episode was released it took me about two weeks after to watch it because I was emotionally distraught. Sounds silly but was I was so affected by these characters and the story line because they represented real people who went through this. Some still do to some extent, (i.e. artists in the music industry and Hollywood where some of them are forced closeted with beards and kids but that is for another day). I was happy to see that many of the actors playing these roles are gay in real because it brought a real authenticity to the story, like with My Policeman, where all the actors are gay in real life. It just brings something more true and meaningful to the story. The last scene with the Aids quilt was very moving for many reasons. One the material used for the fish background that Tim's name was sewn on was Hawk's shirt that he wore a lot in the 80's, it was the one hanging in the space next to Tim that Lucy saw. I found it touching that Hawk had a piece of him on the quilt. Also, Hawk's very emotional reaction to the aids quilt just tore my heart out. Matt Bomer said in an interview that was the first time he had seen the Aids quilt and so his reaction was a genuine reaction. I have watched this series multiple times and am still brought to tears by it. The love story, the horrible politics, the trauma, the fight for LGBTQIA+ rights to live their lives, etc. I love getting your perspectives. Thank you.
Beatrice Thomas-McCandless
2024-05-11 02:21:36 +0000 UTC
I think Hawk did what he did in preventing Tim from getting a job where they'd be near each other every day because he realised how much he felt for Tim, that he really loved him, rather than that Tim was just someone he could have sex with. It was written all over his face as they lay in bed that morning, and leaving Tim the snow globe, his most treasured thing, was Hawk's way of telling Tim that. Lucy's scare with the doctor made him realise that fatherhood was imminent, and having Tim with him every day would compromise his ability to be as good a father as he hoped to be. His own had been a horrible brute, and I think Hawk really wanted to give being a good dad & supportive husband his best shot. Tim knew that, it's why he ran to the hospital to get a glimpse of the only real rival for Hawk's heart he'd ever had.
Jacqueline Hahn
2024-03-26 07:13:22 +0000 UTC
Oddly, Lucy and Tim were two sides of a coin IMO. They both let Hawk go and chose themselves after spending 30+ years only having pieces of him while trying to give their whole selves.
pawntksqueen
2024-03-21 03:04:55 +0000 UTC
I watched this show a few weeks ago and this episode broke me. However a bit of time away from it made me realise something about the hospital scene when Lucy went to see Time.
If you think about it, it's kind of fascinating. Each of them want what the other one has. Lucy wants to be fully loved by Hawk - not just platonically loved. She wants to feel that intense desire that Hawk has shown Tim time and time again. The deep and burning love that Hawk has for him. Lucy so desperately wants it, but has never had it.
Tim on the other hand wanted time and openness and no need to hide his relationship with Hawk. He only had Hawk for these intense patches but never the years in between that he so desperately wants. Lucy had it, and Tim didn't get it.
The two mirrors.
Helen Knight
2024-03-10 21:22:03 +0000 UTC
omg, josh talking about hypotetical hawk's reaction to alex's top made me realize, that hawk says "skippy" just like bill compton was saying "sookie". and i think i can never watch fellow travelers again. it's burned for me forever :P
karolina tersa
2024-02-26 09:42:57 +0000 UTC
the bottoming scene was for two reasons - 1, they wanted to show the growth of hawk’s love for tim and the willingness to be vulnerable around tim, bottoming was the only way he could show it
2, they made a rule when they wrote 3 sex scenes into episode one - no sex scene in the whole show was gonna be the same - and by episode 8, hawk bottoming was pretty much all that was left
Nicky Anne
2024-02-25 22:35:52 +0000 UTC
I loved this show and your reactions so much. As a huge Heartstopper fan, I found this show brought out similar but also completely different emotions for me. Heartstopper brings me so much joy but it is painful as well as an older queer but Fellow Travelers was SO painful to watch but brought me joy to understand how far our community has come and I feel grateful to those who came before us and grateful I didn’t have to make the kind of decisions Hawk or Tim or Mary did.
I also had a thought that Hawk and Tim could have been like Nick and Charlie had they lived in a different time period. Maybe that’s a simplistic view of a lot of complex characters or maybe I just wish Hawk and Tim could’ve had a chance at the kind of happiness we see with Nick and Charlie.
Kimberly Green
2024-01-09 00:20:05 +0000 UTC
OMG, the tears would not stop flowing after this episode. The ending was lovely. I can’t believe Hawk handed him over to M Department but they still had history in the 60’s and 70’s. This show needs to keep being shown over and over again. Loved your reactions Alex and Josh 💔❤️🩹😢😘
Clash
2024-01-07 00:03:28 +0000 UTC
In every one of your reactions I've found a lack of empathy and consideration for Lucy and her experience... Saying she stayed with Hawk to be, basically, an "ally" ; saying that she broke up with him in the last episode to "set him free" and that she also could have done it in a more "respectful way"... Please educate yourselves on the agency women had in their marriage at this point in time, the role assigned to them in society, and how difficult it was for a woman to divorce then. I'm a straight woman and love your content, as it also allows me to educate myself about the difficulties of queer people. But in the other way around, I find a lot of gay men don't really care to educate themselves about women's fight for equality (that is also still ongoing), and has and still is costing them their lives. As an example, a woman leaving a relationship/marriage is still TODAY putting her at risk of the man murdering her.
Arya P
2024-01-04 13:27:21 +0000 UTC
Josh’s disapproval towards Hawk dripping through this entire reaction! 🤣
FC
2024-01-02 15:08:40 +0000 UTC
I have nothing to add because I think everything has been said the episode was perfect. But I am going to be a British nerd now: in the scene where Hawkins is about to climb the steps of the state department intending to rat on Tim, did anyone notice the Morris Minor Traveller car driving along the road in front of the building? WTF is a Morris Minor Traveller doing in Washington DC? It's the car of choice for a 1950's English country vicar or Miss Marple! 😁
Pip
2023-12-30 20:38:24 +0000 UTC
Thank you for sharing your story with us xx
Reem
2023-12-28 13:48:57 +0000 UTC
He did it because he did want the life with Tim so badly...but he felt like he couldn't with the baby coming so he just did the worst think ever so that Tim would never want to and therefore no more temptation... Next time they see each other is the aiding and abbetting in the cabin...explains a lot of the interactions there too...
Michaela Morávková
2023-12-25 12:18:48 +0000 UTC
I’m not sure why but I didn’t tear up when I saw the art work with Tim’s name. I started crying when Hawk’s daughter showed up. He finally accepted himself I think and he wasn’t alone but with his daughter and that made me sad but also content for him at the same time. Does anyone know what I mean?
Reem
2023-12-24 19:06:49 +0000 UTC
Tim Laughlin has the same hold on my heart as Jude St. Francis from “A Little Life”. ❤️🥹
Christopher Shaw
2023-12-23 22:58:59 +0000 UTC
There has only ever been one other TV show that toyed with my emotions as much as the season finale of Fellow Travelers, and that was 13 Reasons Why. Both were devastating, heartbreaking, and shocking, leading to a fair amount of crying. I was born in the early '80s and vividly remember the AIDS Grim Reaper ads in Australia towards the end of the '80s and into the early '90s. They were well-known for their shockingly graphic nature, but they worked at the time, perhaps a little too well.
Both shows shed light on subjects that, if not treated with care and understanding, can lead to horrific outcomes. While 13 Reasons Why left me feeling numb and depressed at the end of the first season, Fellow Travelers had the opposite effect. At the end of Fellow Travelers, there is hope for things starting to change, both in HIV/AIDS awareness and treatment, as well as in attitudes towards LGBTQIA+ rights. We get to see the AIDS quilt, and the ending of Fellow Travelers—an aspect I didn't know about beforehand (my bad).
With movies like Philadelphia, Holding the Man, Pride, and TV shows like It's a Sin and Fellow Travelers, we see how devastating AIDS was, not only on the patients but also on their families and how some families treated patients' chosen families. Through all of this and with the benefit of hindsight, we know that things can and do get better, at least in some countries.
Still, a great show that I'd love to watch again, but I might need a break for a little while 😭.
Chris Mackenzie
2023-12-22 10:06:25 +0000 UTC
"Go home Hawk...I have to be able to let go....make this easier for me" was Tim saying that he'd find it hard to die in Hawks arms. He'd want to stay, keep fighting, but he couldn't anymore. Am now just a ball of snot and tears
Jacqueline Hahn
2023-12-22 07:34:10 +0000 UTC
Finally built myself up to watching the finale, and now I'm ugly crying - what an incredible show.
With shows that time jump like this, I usually like to go back and watch it from the beginning straight away with all the new knowledge of the time periods chronologically in my mind, but I don't think I can with this, it's too heart-breaking.
Such an incredibly important piece of media in every way. All the feels.
Sarah Vallance (Accessible Yoga with Sarah)
2023-12-21 18:36:15 +0000 UTC
Thank you for sharing your story with us.
I think, if we’re honest, we can each find some of Tim and Hawk’s characteristics in ourselves to some degree.
Diane Furlong
2023-12-21 14:19:06 +0000 UTC
Hey guys, you missed a great opportunity. You could have said "Fellow Travelers. It's...a story worth telling!"
Charlzz
2023-12-21 04:22:53 +0000 UTC
One of my exes was Pentecostal when we met. It was a lot for her to reconcile fire and brimstone with what we were doing. She was a lot like Tim in that regard. But she worked through it and changed for the better, just like Tim (not that Tim was ever bad).
Jamie
2023-12-20 20:04:30 +0000 UTC
So good, I loved every episode and what a great cast! The book by Cleve Jones that the film is based on is also a really good read.
Ren
2023-12-20 17:11:02 +0000 UTC
I volunteered and trained as a buddy in London to work with victims of AIDS, this time was a hard hitting one in my life, I was with the Terence Higgins Trust, such a devastating and wide spread disease, with very inadequate scare mongering ads and leaflets by the 'Thatcher' government. Been joining you all in a big cry 😢 xx
Gina Lipkin
2023-12-20 14:58:09 +0000 UTC
Love is beyond measure, the most powerful force from one human to another
Gina Lipkin
2023-12-20 14:48:56 +0000 UTC
Unconditional 💕😘
Gina Lipkin
2023-12-20 14:24:05 +0000 UTC
A love that cannot be denied
Gina Lipkin
2023-12-20 14:02:43 +0000 UTC
Matt Bomer is nominated for Best Actor. Johnathon Bailey is nominated for Best Supporting Actor. Actors submit their own work for consideration. Johnathan didn't want to compete with Matt and possibly take a win from him, so he submitted in the Supporting one instead.
Steven Jump
2023-12-20 13:59:42 +0000 UTC
Oh, boys! I was a blubbering mess when I watched this the other night and then again when I watched it with you. Thank god you said ‘no montage then’ because it made me snort with laughter - and I needed that. This series has been outstanding. I loved it. And I loved watching it again with you. I’m with you though … I now need to go and watch something fuzzy, funny and warm. ❤️
David Watt
2023-12-20 12:56:05 +0000 UTC
I watched this episodes ending multiple times and I BALLED my eyes out for a good half an hour! 🥲🥲
I'm sooo inspired to get more educated about that era of the LGBTQ+ history, just to feel more connected to my community. I want to learn about the struggles that queer people went through to simply be themselves out in public and be accepted!....I'm just sooo overwhelmed but in every good way possible! I'm so proud to be PROUD 🏳️🌈 I love you boys, you have no idea!
(P.S I can't afford the merch right now but it's on my wish list 😅❤️)
Nikki Hearn
2023-12-20 12:43:35 +0000 UTC
I took it as her not wanting to make assumptions and letting Hawk open up at his own pace.
Charity Rose Elkins
2023-12-20 11:57:47 +0000 UTC
Hawk betrayed Tim to the M Unit because Tim said they were going to be collogues, basically able to see each other a lot and that was too big of a threat to Hawk's compartmentalized life.
Mark Walker
2023-12-20 06:40:22 +0000 UTC
This series is beautiful. I will probably rewatch it when I get to a point where I can watch it without sobbing. And can I just say, the Hawk and Tim love story is messy and bumpy and at times, a little effed up, but it's beautiful. They were truly it for each other and sometimes, that's all there is to it. I had a "great, consuming love" of my own when I was in my twenties, and like Hawk, I messed it up. Just because I was young and didn't know how to navigate the weight of that kind of love. She was my person and she still very much is, but too much has happened now with our lives. I've had a few other relationships with people I have loved, but none of them felt quite like that one (and that's fine). I don't know, I just felt like sharing because Hawk and Tim reminded me of my own story. I haven't really said it out loud too much and I'm going to be forty-one in less than a month. I didn't know that their love story was going to punch me in my gut the way it did. I thought I was sitting down to watch an important show about racism, HIV/AIDS, and the lavender scare, I didn't know it was going to hold up a mirror and be like "look at all your regrets with your person" lol.
I'm glad Hawk got to a place where he can at least be honest with Kimberly since she's all he has now. Just goes to show, even if you have to lose everything and start all over, you're never too old to come out and be honest with yourself.
PS: if this show doesn't win EVERY AWARD I'm going to be very, very angry.
Jamie
2023-12-20 06:19:33 +0000 UTC
I think what Tim was saying to Hawk at the party is if he was to stay he would continue to fight to live and Tim was ready to cross the Rainbow Bridge. I highly recommend you to watch When We Rise it's about the beginning of the AIDS crisis and the Quilt. It's on Hulu or you can rent or purchase on Amazon Prime
Mark Heidel
2023-12-20 05:58:29 +0000 UTC
Alex and Josh, sending you both big Hugs! Thank You for reacting to this wonderful Series. This final episode was so beautiful and tastefully done.
Diane Furlong
2023-12-20 05:57:46 +0000 UTC
Well that was harder to watch the second time around with the reaction. Seeing Tim's quilt was it, water works and open sobbing!Thanks to another awesome video!
Chris Mackenzie
2023-12-20 04:37:30 +0000 UTC
god, this show is the most beautiful piece of media i've ever watched. and i cry every rewatch, somehow even more each time.
i would write novels about my love for hawk, tim, marcus, frankie - but i'm too emotionally drained right now. i love them so much. i think the overall consensus is they, amongst with the rest of our community of those years, deserved so much better. to think of what they could have been, what they could have had only 3 decades later is heartbreaking, yet heartwarming. we're still fighting, but we've grown so much.
lo !!
2023-12-20 04:10:35 +0000 UTC
Destroyed. Will be waking up with puffy swollen eyes tomorrow. Beautiful series. I feel heartbroken that even though Tim told Hawke not to write - that was the last time they saw each other.
I am surprised that Hawkes daughter never put “friend” together as “love”.
It’s just heartbreaking. 💔 😭
Shari
2023-12-20 03:37:07 +0000 UTC
I can't stop sobbing. I was a child when the AIDS epidemic hit. I've always 'supported' lgbtq+, but this last couple of years has been on another level. I'm a late in life bisexual awakening. Can I just send a hug to everyone? 🫂
Ann-Marie Still
2023-12-20 02:13:56 +0000 UTC
Wish we got a Leonard update in this episode.
-wish we got more Leonard period
DP
2023-12-20 02:13:48 +0000 UTC
The fact that Hawk lost his father, father figure, his first love, his son and now Tim literally shatters my heart its like as if he’s constantly losing every man in his life.
Meral Gattan
2023-12-20 02:11:04 +0000 UTC
This whole episode made me cry. I was a blubbering mess by the end of it. I wholeheartedly believe that Tim and Hawk were the definition of right person, wrong time. In another world, I like to think they got a happy ending. And I do think when Hawk told Tim “promise not to write.” that was him telling Tim he loves him in his own way. Also, I agree, I’m glad they didn’t show Tim’s death, I don’t think anyone could’ve handled that. This was such a moving and incredibly emotional show that was so hard to watch but it was also so important. Also, a My Policeman review?! I love Harry Styles and that movie had me sobbing, so I can’t wait to see yall’s reactions to it! 🤍
Carrie
2023-12-20 01:45:52 +0000 UTC
I was almost dreading to watch you lads watch this. I've now seen this finale four times, and each time, I cry as much as the first.
Such an absolute brilliant work of art Fellow Travelers has been. I truly hope it takes home every award for which it's nominated.
Chris Metzger
2023-12-20 00:31:55 +0000 UTC
I have just joined your Patreon having followed you on YouTube for quite awhile. As I live in Puerto Rico (which Paramount+ and Showtime have a blackout for subscription as they don't recognize us as part of the U.S.), I realized by joining your Patreon, I could see the whole show (although in miniature😁)! So glad I figured that out! I will continue as a Patreon member, as I find it refreshing to hear the reactions of my younger queers to this type of material. I turn seventy in a few days and I can only tell you this series resonated so strongly having come out in the early 70's, lived thru that hedonistic period in Washington, DC. It captured so many of my experiences then and thru the following decades living in NYC. The portrayal was so accurate. And living thru the 80's in NY, I was involved with a married man who became one of the originally diagnosed AIDS patients at NIH with Dr. Fauci. Needless to say this was not an easy watch for me. I have a bit of Survivor's guilt as I remain negative. I lost my closest friends early on--nearly 40 years ago! I think of them more everyday....................wondering what could have been.
Stephen Peters
2023-12-20 00:19:13 +0000 UTC
Thank you for sharing this amazing show and your thoughts.
Stephen Peters
2023-12-19 23:59:28 +0000 UTC
Tim spared Hawk (and us) from seeing him dying. How Tim of him. 💙
Thanks so much for sharing this with us. This show has been difficult to watch but I’ve learned and remembered so much. Honestly I’ve been in a privileged enough position in my life to have forgotten about the impact AIDS had. I’m glad this show reminded me and prompted me to learn more about that crisis and the lavender scare.
The AIDS quilt will make me cry for the rest of my life - like it should.
Jennifer Thompson
2023-12-19 23:55:00 +0000 UTC
This show should be required viewing for every young adult and up,
Jamie
2023-12-19 23:48:05 +0000 UTC
Am I ready for this? I'm not sure, but I'm going in. BTW, love and hugs to everyone
🩷💜💙 I think we all need it
Ann-Marie Still
2023-12-19 23:38:06 +0000 UTC
Roy Cohn’s square is the real one. Production borrowed it and several other real squares. “Beyond Measure” was from the 60’s episode where Tim tells Hawk that’s what they say in seminary and then Hawk tells Jackson he loves him beyond measure. Here’s an amazing thread from the designer of Tim’s square:
https://x.com/inkandandroids/status/1736897893527617612?s=46&t=FQqIBKbptgSJ99XP6N6OyQ
I can’t wait for your reaction to My Policeman! You should definitely also react to Man in an Orange Shirt and Lie With Me.
Jenny Lukan
2023-12-19 23:22:41 +0000 UTC
wow. what an amazing show this has been, not what i expected going in either! but thanks so much guys for reacting to it, it was (probably?!?) easier to watch with you than it would have been on my own ❤️ going to bed to cry myself to sleep now!
ser brienne
2023-12-19 23:01:06 +0000 UTC
Beautiful show, it has touched so many people, the online reaction has been so emotional and raw. Loved all your reactons through the 8 episodes, thank you <3
Amelia Jane
2023-12-19 22:30:26 +0000 UTC
… and now I’m ugly crying 🥹😢😭 …
Ren
2023-12-19 21:15:05 +0000 UTC
Sheesh I go to work for a few hours and you guys went on a posting frenzy.
Diane Furlong
2023-12-19 21:12:49 +0000 UTC
I feel like I've run an emotional marathon, but at the same time I'm going to miss running the race. This show was simply extraordinary.
jennifer
2023-12-19 20:07:04 +0000 UTC
Had to post this here because I feel like this sums up this show beautifully:
In death, Tim saved his lover once more, as he had done so many times throughout their lives together, in ways big and small. Tim curbed Hawk’s drinking. He encouraged Hawk to get HIV tests and know his status. He helped Hawk grieve the death of his son. But above all, Tim convinced Hawk that love was a currency much more influential than secrets and lies. Just like he did at the end of the first episode, when he told Tim about his first love—something he had never told anyone before—Hawk let his guard down.
Ella
2023-12-19 20:03:55 +0000 UTC
This is my 2nd time watching the final episode and I still just dont have the words. It absolutely breaks my heart. This show is going to be one that stays with me for a long time 💔
Louise Poole 🍂
2023-12-19 19:42:08 +0000 UTC
I want to say that people do change, everyone does, some people change for the better and other change for the worse. I say this as someone who grew up in a conservative catholic household in the West Indies. I remember back then people would never dare to say the word “gay” and if they did they would be homophobic, as a kid I was ignorant to the LGBTQ community and I believed what people from my community in the catholic faith taught me. But look at me now, a Bisexual woman who has suffer trauma because of members of the catholic faith at my old church, and is no longer catholic.
Rachel
2023-12-19 19:37:36 +0000 UTC
I haven't watched the final yet, and now I'm torn. Watch it by my lonesome and have good cry (I guess this one's going to be hard) or watch it with you and find some comfort in numbers. I leaning heavily towards the latter!! ❤️
Stian Kristoffersen
2023-12-19 19:35:29 +0000 UTC
It’s so sad to think that if Hawk would have stayed with Tim in the 50’s, probably Tim wouldn’t have gotten sick. He was the faithful one in the relationship.
Is like Marcus said, the one who lied, cheated, betrayed and was a coward is the bulletproof.
Bookshelfaffair
2023-12-19 19:12:42 +0000 UTC
I'm so glad I'm watching this with you two. I really don't think I could do it on my own...
Ann-Marie Still
2023-12-19 18:21:07 +0000 UTC
Ahhhh I’m so excited to watch your reactions to the last 2 episodes! That one scene from ep7 (you know the one) and the entirety of ep8 destroyed me - it’s been days and I’m still reeling from it.
I am just so glad that you decided to cover this show. It’s been an emotional rollercoaster. Being able to rewatch the episodes with you guys and getting to hear your perspectives has been such a joy. ❤️❤️❤️
gem
2023-12-19 18:16:57 +0000 UTC
Im already tearing up from the thump nail 🥺 I’ve watched the finale twice and I was sobbing both times. I know I’m gonna cry again now…💔
Frances
2023-12-19 18:13:05 +0000 UTC
Wow double upload! This was such a beautiful heartbreaking show. I was a mess watching the end too 😭 I've started to educate myself more around the 50s and the Lavender scare, something I'd heard of but didn't know anything about really until Fellow Travelers and reading Last night at the telegraph club.
Ali Laura
2023-12-19 18:12:31 +0000 UTC
This is now a community crying club. Fact.
NessaC
2023-12-19 18:08:27 +0000 UTC
HOLYYYY DOUBLE UPLOADDDDDDDDD
Meral Gattan
2023-12-19 18:05:36 +0000 UTC