Cobra Kai | 4x8 Cut REACTION!!

Death from a cheap ass bracelet? Stop it. Also Sam kicked Tory over a damn staircase.

Reese

I personally don't see any chemistry between Robby and Tori like at all so i don't get why they are getting together. They only went to prom together to get back at Sam and Miguel. When you start a relationship that way, it never works out. It's clear that Tori still has feelings for Miguel. Either way i am not really into any of the relationships so i guess i doesn't matter. At the end of the day, it's the adults actual fault that everyone is fighting. The kids see how the adults are acting and they don't like it but then they act the same way. Tori already had some serious pent up anger because of her situation and Cobra Kai just made her use anger in the wrong way. I am really glad she has Amanda this season because she is the only one who is showing her the right way to act. Getting her real help instead of teaching her to psychically fight her problems away. I think Tori and Sam are equally wrong. They both did things the wrong way, like fighting and cheating. Same goes for Robby and Miguel. No one is innocent in all of this but they are children so obviously they all are going to grow from this. Now people calling this and that person a bad person is so weird to me. The hate Sam gets specifically is beyond me. She is not innocent at all but her reaction to what has happened to her and her not wanting to be nice to Tori is justified. Her being from a good family has nothing to do with it. Sam har trauma from what happened with Tori at the school just like Tori has trauma from her own situation. BOTH of them are going about it the wrong way! I get that Tori is a lot of people's fav but then hating Sam at the same time is hypocritical to me. I like both Tori and Sam! I want both of them to move one from this and maybe not become friends but maybe start talking instead of fighting all the time.

Caroline

It's about explaining, not equating (or even excusing). What can only be said for Tory is an explanation - which is not an excuse - and she has that. From this all being in a karate drama (complete w/ snakes in cars, to karate brawls taken too far), to her having the most difficult background of everyone shy of Kreese, and the most Cobra Kai influence shy of Johnny . Meanwhile, the opposite is true for Sam on both accords! Then, the cheating, which Sam has neither an explanation, nor can she be excused simply because of the existence of the "worse " or incomparable aforementioned. Also of note with the fandom on this, I see noone effectively trying to excuse Tory (as it is unfeasible) but the ones attempting to excuse Sam, fail to acknowledge given explanation...and doing that dismisses the series itself!

Frank Jaeger

What happened to Robbie season 1 was Hawk, what Miguel did after was not that serious or illegal and actually it was pretty smart. Miguel in that first season was trying to fight the no mercy BS but it was to late when Johnny decided to change. Miguel was a good kid that was taught cobra Kai. Robbie was troubled who was taught Miyagi do. In season Miguel was finally taught to show mercy something that I assume Robbie had been learning at Miyagi do. At the high school fight When Miguel had Robbie pinned down Miguel had a choice and he chose right Robbie also had a choice and he chose to ignore what he was taught and to revert into his old angry self. And miss me with that taunting BULL SHIT, Robbie did that to Miguel about being PARALYZED this season SO STOP IT.

Tony

Both of the girls have done terrible things but we all have to admit that Tori is the more sympathetic character. Sam had a support system she had everything going for her and continued to act unfairly in season one the only thing she didn’t have going for her was Tori being with Miguel but even then she wasn’t truly at a loss cause Sam had Robby, so for someone to have no losses and be entitled and spoiled/malicious it rubs people the wrong way fast. Tori is a much more sympathetic character and while some actions are beyond a justification her background and sam’s privilege are important to how viewers interpret their actions/storyline, from the second we met tori it was heavily implied she was poor and had a bad home life especially after scenes of her and Miguel officially getting together, I don’t think it excuses things but I do think it is important to note that’s it’s a huge reason why the majority of viewers pull towards tori you want someone like that to have more than one chance to get her head on straight and even though nothing good comes from her negative reactions when you see someone from poor circumstances get one raw deal after the other with having her trust betrayed, as a viewer you want to even the playing field so we give her more chances and leeway with her behavior than someone more privileged, we want to root for the underdog and this show has done a great job of weaponize that within all of their characters to encourage watcher discourse and keep their audience engaged.

Samantha Nicole

yep

cozyxsuicidee

Actually, Tory didn't start the school riot, Hawk did. Tory started the fight between her and Sam at the school but it was controlled and just between the two of them. It wasn't until Hawk decided to punch a random person that all hell broke loose and the riot started. Also, I agree with Cam, people always see the reaction but never what leads up to it. That fight was never truly about Sam kissing Miguel, it was the breaking point but at its core, its always been about Sam treating Tory like shit and Tory being over it. Also, Sam is such a hypocrite. She's always preaching about how everyone has a sob story and that its never ok to be a bully with her holier than thou attitude yet she turns around and does the same thing she condemns Tory for

Gabriella

Yes your right bludgeoning someone in the face having them potentially choke on her own blood is def not attempting to kill them. And Robbie oh yea accident right is that why he gloats about it? Interesting and how can I forget tying hawk down and shaving him with a razor for *checks notes* accidentally knocking down food. Oh and how can I forget Tory hasn’t attacked Sam because she changed right it’s not about her apparent love for her little brother that was nonexistent when she was instigating multiple counts of assault right right right. Y’all have so many excuses for the trash that is Robbie and Tory but hey everyone has their favs.

Trey Milliner-Williams

I beg to differ. Tory's back story definitely gives more insight to her character and why she is who she is. Sam isn't just spoiled, she's also an instigator. The school fight never would've gone as far as it did if Sam didn't constantly judge and look down on Tory or if Sam had apologized to Tory for wrongfully accusing her of stealing her mom's wallet. At the end of the day, the rivalry isn't about the guys. Sam kissing Miguel was the breaking point but it wasn't the sole reason for everything that went down. It's always been about Sam's attitude towards Tory and constantly looking down on her. And you haven't been paying much attention if you think Tory and Robbie have had no development. Tory hasn't bothered Sam at all this entire season, it's always been Sam instigating things. If Tory was the same, she would've kicked Sam's ass from the jump but she hasn't. And saying Tory almost killed Sam is an overreaction. That would not have killed her. And as for Robbie, you're acting like he purposefully pushed Miguel off the railing which he didn't. It was an accident. Saying Robbie is the same "delinquent garbage" and that him and Tory haven't changed is such a lie

Gabriella

Tory was not trying to kill Sam, that's an overreaction

Gabriella

Sam didnt force tory to start the fight tory overreacted and tory also told eli to break demetris arm lol

cozyxsuicidee

ahhh you mean pushing him he was wrong. he changed. he grew, he apologized to sam. he became a better person. Miguel has actually showed progression and change in his character. Robbie is the same delinquent garbage he was when we first met him. No one is justifying what miguel did, no one is justifying what hawk did. but what you fail or are clearly ignoring is they grew and made up for their mistakes. Tory and Robbie have not. Robbie throws that he almost killed Miguel right in his face. Tory comes groveling to Mrs. Larusso after almost killing Sam and then leading a charge to assault them. The only one giving excuses and doing the "poor me" act all up and down this comment section is you for Robbie and Tory despite them not deserving it.

Trey Milliner-Williams

Miguel showed mercy and robbie took advantage of that and nearly killed him, even if you think it was an accident it its not justifiable. as soon as miguel showd mercy they should have talked

Adrian Bisutti

you can't compare nearly killing miguel to what miguel did. it was not just an "inury" he almost died/almost paralyzed. nothing will EVER come close to that, so fuck the petty shit about miguel pushing robbie at the beach, lmao if someone did that to me I just would not care but if someone almost killed me I would not forgive them

Adrian Bisutti

Keep justifying. Poor Miguel has an excuse for everything. So why did he try hitting Robby on the beach? Or what justifies what he did at All Valley? I’ll wait.

Bitch 1

Miguel attacked Robbie after he watched him throw Tory into a locker then kick one of his karate members but continue

Trey Milliner-Williams

Robby should apologize when Miguel apologizes. Miguel attacked him first. First on the beach, then purposely trying to harm his injury further giving himself the advantage after Robby was just giving him a hand after a scored point. And Robby was trying to stop the girls from fighting when Cobra Kai Miguel came charging In and tackled Robby from behind when his back was turned. Miguel was the shit starter in all those situations. Miss me with that bull. You can’t start a fire and then complain when your house burns down. That’s Miguel and everyone else that wants to free him from blame. Just because Miguel took the biggest injury doesn’t absolve his part.

Bitch 1

Lana I want to forever hold that post. You nailed every darn frustration I have especially Hawk. He got that whole victimize oh we should feel sorry for him writing s4 when just earlier in the season he was outright bullying a middle school aged Kenny. I was dumbfounded seeing a lot of viewers drink the Hawk rehabilitation kool aid so quickly. It seemed like everyone and their mother was roooting for him all because the poor baby got his stupid looking MoHawk cut. It was the least he deserved after all of the crap he pulled. His punk ass was bullying a young kid that did nothing to him. My boy Robby ain’t no villain and he should be mad at his father. That dude was a crap dad for 16-17 years and then he takes on Miguel as his surrogate son. We watched Johnny go to the ends of the earth for 4 seasons for Miguel and Robby got less than the bare minimum from Johnny. He’s the parent, not Robby. Johnny barely made an effort. To earn my kid’s trust, I would be persistent. No matter what Robby says. Johnny should been up at juvie evertyday regardless of Robby’s anger. That would’ve been hard but it goes a long way to gaining Robby’s trust. But no, he spent all of his time rehabbing Miguel, fixing his Facebook and didn’t give one damn about his son. The minute Robby speaks freely and tells it like it is, Johnny walks away and doesn’t see him for another handful of episodes. Dude makes no effort. He literally spoke to Robby twice this season. And both times Robby came to him. Johnny has zero time for Robby but he’s cooking and planning family dinners for Miguel. He’s trash. And Miguel wasn’t innocent of that school fight. Robby was clearly trying to reason with both girls and said that they could figure it out without the fight when Miguel came running in and tackling Robby from behind. I suppose Robby was supposed to swallow that after Miguel already attempted to hit him on the beach and purposely at the tournament. Miguel ain’t no Saint and it’s sickening how viewers miss those details. His last minute attack of conscience during the school fight doesn’t absolve him. He’s just as much to blame but people don’t want to blame the kid that was in a coma. And another thing, why did only Tory and Robby get expelled? That whole lot should’ve been kicked from school. Demetri kicked Hawk (tho deserved)into a freaking glass case. As great as the show is, trying to victimize people that aren’t victims(Sam, Hawk, Miguel) and purely villainize Tory and Robby is bull crap. I wage to say that Hawk has done more dirt than Robby ever did. But Robby gets crapped on because he’s justly upset with a father that hasn’t given one damn about him. And his mom is crap along with Daniel and Sam. Every time Robby thinks h3 can rely on any adult, they prove he can’t and let him down. Then we have the so called girlfriend Sam that treated him like dirt. Reminder how she got drunk and acted pissy on the same day his mom went to rehab. As if the guy wasn’t dealing with enough personally. Great person that she is. All I’m saying is that some things need to be corrected. My boy Robby deserves so much better! It’s a damn shame when I was rooting for Kreese to be there for him. Dumb Daniel treating Robby like crap and welcoming Hawk the dojo destroyer/thief with open arms. Miss me with that bull. It’s no wonder Robby doesn’t trust any one of them. Why should he? Johnny didn’t even seem to care that he wanted Miyagi-Fang to fight Cobra Kai at the movie drive in. Like did he not realize that meant placing his kid straight in the line of fire? But it’s ok because as long as Miguel and the bullies of Miyagi-Fang kicked ass, it was all good. Scum!

Bitch 1

But I see your argument^^

Art of Trolling

If you get hit in the face with a spiked bracelet. That doesn’t mean death. Maybe deep cuts and blindness if you get hit in the eye but death is pushing.

Art of Trolling

It's funny how everyone loves using Tory and Robby as scapegoats, when they actually have understandable pent up anger, but give characters like Hawk a pass who acted just as psycho as Tory if not more for two seasons just because he was bullied like most of the kids on this show. But in his case people call it "identity crisis" and "brainwashing"... yeah okay. If anyone is out of order it's him. And stop bringing up the fact that Robby paralyzed Miguel ACCIDENTALLY and not bring up Miguel injuring him in s1 and taunting him s2 ON PURPOSE. Up until that incident Miguel had been acting like an ass to Robby not the other way around, but everyone still favored Miguel. Let's not act as if this show's fandom isn't biased around Johnny, Miguel and Hawk because it is. Maybe talk less about under 18's and more about Johnny and Daniel who were perfectly fine with letting Robby stay at a dojo with two psychopaths and pitting kids against each other to begin with. Great adulting.

L

also I love torrys growth this season but how tf is Sam going to see that or should care to see that after Torry tried to kill her.

Adrian Bisutti

both sam and tory are in the wrong, but tory trying to kill sam cannot be justified in anyway, I don't see how Cameron and Davion don't see that

Adrian Bisutti

lol what I am pretty sure a spiked bracelet to the face is death, she was literally in the act of doing it if sam did not defend herself, sam and miguel kissing does not equate to both sam and miguel nearly dying

Adrian Bisutti

Tory and Robbie are absolute trashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. We can call Sam "spoiled" all we want sure ill take a spoiled kid over a kid who almost paralyzed someone and the other who tried to mame someone. everyone has a sob story and neither Tory nor Robbies story justifies what they've done throughout the show. I would also like to point out Robbie never apologized for almost killing Miguel and the first thing he does when seeing him is A try to fight him and the next gloat about it. Thats trash.

Trey Milliner-Williams

Ikr😂😂

Namjoon'sWife

That whole confrontation just proves that they all need therapy

wow thanks so much 2 in 1 day

beta

https://youtu.be/RSP0Ts3i8nI https://youtu.be/lsfecdgaNV8 https://youtu.be/J-3nDa6C2MI FYI- Hawk and Kyler and a few unnamed characters walked into the Larusso house first. Tory came in last with two guys behind her. Watch these videos and you’ll see Sam’s privilege. She’s a whiny spoiled brat and she’s been a witch from the start. You’re welcome! Love the reaction btw! You guys are hilarious!

Bitch 1

Lol we get story tried to punch her with the bracelet. I would say killing her is forcing because we don’t know what would have happened if she did hit her. I understand the POV but does that mean Sam can keep repeatedly doing shit to her because what Tory did was “worse”. The cycle between them would never end tbh.

Art of Trolling

yessir

Flight23

That scene between Johnny and Miguel will forever be heartbreaking! 😢

Matthew Bee

OMGG YESS

Arriona Clark