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Right, I was gonna say that

Christopher Almaguer

You did what you were supposed to, you had a post watch discussion, you had your opinions, I’ve got mine, and they don’t have to be the same. Sometimes I forget that. Only good thoughts to you Davion 🙏🏻❤️

Chrissy

Dang. My bad-Davion

Just Us

the duffers mentioned that season 5 will be centred around will so im very excited for that!! another thing, i have no clue how el brought max back but there are theories that you know when One killed all them kids back in the lab with el, he told el that they aren't fully gone and that they are in his mind, so in my eyes I feel like el somewhat did the same thing with max, that max's consciousness is in el's mind somewhere and that's why she's in a coma, because her own mind is seperated from her body because then her body has enough time to heal so that when max's mind and body combine again, she won't die. I don't know how true that is but I can't wait to see it for s5

Millie b

You’re definitely not alone 🙄

Chrissy

I thought I was the only one😂😂

JayyDoee

This post discussion was infuriating. Legitimately I felt like I was going to combust from the absolute non sensical chat crap that was coming from Davion and Cameron 😬 You feel you can write a better script, (though from what they were saying, even Lifetime channel wouldn’t pick that story idea up), then go for it, I’m sure the Duffers aren’t worried someone who thinks they can do better is going to steal their thunder, I bet they sleep like babies at night knowing they made bank writing the number one tv show in the world. I needed a vacation and a 12 hour nap after that post discussion because my god.

Chrissy

There’s no way realistically Nancy and Jonathan will stay together. We’ve seen how he doesn’t want to go to school with her. He’s continuing that lie, nothing good comes from building lie upon lie. Next season Nancy will find out and yes, Hawkins may be fucked but it’s the fact that Jonathan lied to her that she won’t be ok with. Nancy stopped putting up with peoples shit mid season 2. I love Steve, favorite character, do I want him with Nancy? Not particularly because he can do better and I say this because Nancy is romantically challenged. She has no idea what she wants. I’ve lived enough years to know, she needs to step back with her sawn off for a while and focus on school and a career and down the line, if roads lead back to Steve cool, but if this is going to be a “playing with his emotions” bullshit scenario, then leave him alone. Jonathan just needs to find himself again. Help Will through this challenging stage of his life, next season is going to be Wills season. The way Jonathan has been written less and less in the show, to be honest, I think he might not make it next season.

Chrissy

Nathan is right with this one vecna is the big bad that was the big reveal they made

Jo Mac

They revealed this episode that Vecna is the big bad. he's the one who's been in control this whole time

Jo Mac

nathan u clearly cant argue with them it litterally shows vecna is the big bad and controlling and they still tryin to tell otherwise lmao did they watch this shit with their eyes clossed

a k

The answers to their misunderstandings in simple terms🤣: 1) eleven would have beat Vecna if Nancy Steve and robin did not intervene from the upside down. 2) El bringing max back doesn’t mean a new power, she’s telekinetic, if she can throw a body then she can telekinetically pump a heart like a defibrillator. 3) the mike&el scene was so significant because A) el could hear him & max couldn’t hear Lucas dustin or Steve. B) mikes voice was els version of music being the key back to reality. 4) the mind flayer is Vecna, the dust cloud itself was literally just a shadow-monster-like entity, but Vecna transformed it into the spider form and put his own conscious onto it, making Vecna the actual mind flayer. 5) remember that Vecna absorbs all the things he kills or has control over; all the lab kids, max’s conscience, demogorgons, demodogs, shadow monster(now mind flayer bc it’s vecnas projected conscience). Unlike El, Vecna absorbs victims, and that is where Max’s mind is.

Katie

Vecna didn't lose that fight, El was only winning because it was a battle on multiple fronts. If it had just been a single head to head between the two I don't think El would come out alive at this point.

TrixieTurner

I agree with Davion: I also do not like the idea of Steve and Nancy together again. I guess people want that because they absolutely love Steve and want him to be happy, but do you think Nancy reacted positive or liked what he said about having all those kids and being his wife? I don’t think she did, at all. Her expression didn't seem approving. If anything, Nancy is the antithesis of what Steve described… I don’t know, for me, is like Steve is idealizing her to something she is not (which Jonathan doesn’t seem to do). So, we’ll see what happens in S5 but all these little Nancy and Steve moments are like setting Steve's and Nancy's character development so far behind, in my opinion, because it's like they haven't learned from their past.

94_h

The Russian prison guard's name is not Enzo. He used that as a code when Joyce received the letter that told her that Hopper was alive, but his name is actually Dmitri Antonov.

94_h

Yes, in a show like Stranger Things, everything that we see on screen is there for a reason. I can provide many examples, but you explained it perfectly!

94_h

Exactly! Vecna already knew the 4 gates were going to open and wreck havoc across Hawkins. He was gloating and he knew he won.

94_h

It's a good theory, but will they repeat the same possession arc with Will again? I mean, it already happened in S2. That would be a bit redundant. Also, In Stranger Things, all the deaths have some meaning and move the plot forward. They could do many things in S5... But characters like Will (who already died in S1), El (also died at the end of S1) and Hopper (died at the end of S3) can’t have the same death arc again, that would be incredibly repetitive. Same with Will getting possessed in S2; the possession arc already happened to him. I’m sure the Duffer Brothers have more original ideas to what will happen with Will in S5. Hopefully they do, lol.

94_h

Yes, in Hawkin's Library. I just wrote that a few minutes ago! It is very suspicious.

94_h

I agree. They lost. Also, the 4 gates joined in the Library, which is where Will was found with the vine on his mouth in the Upside Down when Hopper and Joyce saved him in S1. Very suspicious. I want to add that El restarted Max’s heart with her telekinetic powers, similar to when she made the bully in S1 pee himself and when she exploded the brains of the scientists as well, remember guys? So, it’s not a new power. She just pushed an organ to function again, but it may be confusing (I was confused when I first watched it too).

94_h

Nathan, guys, all of you literally forgot what you just watched, haha. Eleven didn’t save the day! She lost to Vecna! They didn’t win! The power of love didn’t save anyone. What ACTUALLY saved everyone was Murray using the flame thrower on the demagorgons at the Russia jail because everything is a hive mind; it’s all connected so it broke the connection: the demobats fell to the floor, the vines stopped choking Steve, Robin and Nancy and Vecna's mind lair started to evaporate. Murray is the true hero in this final episode. Please rewind that moment because everyone and their mothers forgot about it (a lot happened, so I don't blame you). I mean, Brenner was right when he said they were not ready to fight Henry; he’s too powerful. Then Nancy, Steve and Robin did their thing and Henry woke up from his trance. Nancy should’ve gone for Vecna’s head though because his power comes from his mind.

94_h

Great video guys! Just to clarify, it wasn’t El that freed Steve, Robin, and Nancy, it was Murray killing the demidogs with the flamethrower because it’s all a hive mind. That’s why it was important to flip between scenes like they did. Also, the flamethrower was out of gas which is why Hopper had to kill the demigorgon with the sword.

Angie K.

It didn’t need to be his physical body we already know if you get hurt in there it effects you in the real world ex. El getting choked out happened in the real world also. But she definitely wasn’t strong enough

Jayshawn Robinson

I’ll shut that thought down real quick that 001 is stronger than El, he isn’t. El is more powerful. The only reason she didn’t win this fight is because the physical mindflayer in season 3 took her powers and passed them through telepathic means to Vecna and she literally had to start all over again to build up her powers. You have to understand that before you can argue your point about her powers if you can’t answer because you don’t know, where her powers went at the end of season 3. Of course she can’t beat him yet. But you’re forgetting why Vecna wanted her power in the first place, BECAUSE EL CAN OPEN GATES AND 001 CAN’T AND THATS HOW EL HAS ALWAYS BEEN STRONGER SINCE DAY ONE. Sometimes things are the absolute simplest answer. The amount of time that the vines were choking Nancy, Steve and Robin, don’t you think, seen as though Vecna controls every single vine, that he could have pinned them to the wall controlling the vines to keep them right at the point where they could be killed but not quite, on the edge of death basically? Yes, he could and I’m pretty sure that’s what he did. He showed her images of her friends DYING not dead because he wanted her to watch them die, for her to suffer, not as effective if they’re dead, is it? So he kept them at the edge of death for 30 minutes.

Chrissy

Gotta agree with nathan here El didnt win that fight at all 💯 Vecna Won in so many ways , he got the job done after explaining to nancy what and how he's going to do it , Technically killed max and killed Eddie and overpowered El the longest she only threw him against something and thats all she wasnt about to kill him either bc it wasn't his physical body and she wasn't stronger then him at all

BMG DANN

When Eleven pinned Vecna to the wall the only reason she was able to do that was because, yes she was emotionally buffed because of what Mike said but Vecna was also distracted because he was busy killing Max. When she pinned him that did not cause the bats and the vines to go away that was Murray shooting the demodogs and the demogorgan with fire. I would say Eleven did not win that fight because that wasn't really a fight. After she pinned Vecna he did not even fight back really because he knew he had killed max and won. Eleven is not as strong as him so he knew she could not kill him. He was just kinda gloating saying that she had already lost. And also Mike saying "I love you" is the same emotion that gave her the strength to beat Vecna the first time. Remember in episode 7 when she thought about the thoughts that made her mad he still beat her but when she remembered her mother saying "I love you" that is what gave her the strength to win. The same thing Mike did to give her strength.

asdADadad

I think its just leading up to his death in season 5. They make us think he is going to die every season but he finally will die heroically in season 5 most likely saving Nancy

Nicholas Matthews

We’ve been hearing Vecnas clock for four seasons. He’s always been the big boss. Season 1 in the woods, when Will fell off his bike on the way home, you hear it. Season 2 in the tunnels, you hear the chimes, season 3 is the clearest I’ve heard it when Billy sees himself in the upside down, you clearly hear 4 clock chimes, then by the pool when Billy is trying to get out of the heat. Vecna is basically the Mindflayer, he created it. He explained to El that she kept closing the gates on him so he left a physical piece behind before the gate could close at the end of season 2, the piece that possessed Will and then took over Billy in season 3. He couldn’t get through the gate but with his psychic connection to the mindflayer through Billy he told him to build a physical version of the mindflayer who would take El’s powers and psychicly feed it back to Vecna so he could take on El’s powers. That happened in seasons 3 episode “The Bite” when the mindflayer attached to her leg. That’s why her powers were gone at the end of the season, the mindflayer had passed them on to Vecna at his orders. In this season finale, when Vecna is about to lift Max, he says to her, “Don’t worry, this will all be over soon”, the same thing Billy said to Heather the lifeguard and El in season 3, further showing Vecna was controlling the Mindflayer the whole time. This was all Vecna from the start UNLESS the Duffers blindside us that actually the Mindflayer has only been letting Vecna THINK he’s in charge…. but the Duffers have said next season is Wills season. My theory or at least one of them, Will definitely has untapped powers he’s not aware of. When he grabs his neck, that’s his psychic connection to the mindflayer and Vecna but subdued because he possibly has a sotera chip in his neck like 001 did to dampen his possible knowledge of his power until he was ready to use it to fight against Vecna and so Vecna couldn’t make a clear connection to Will to try and take him over as a host because his powers could be equal to El’s. El can’t win alone. I’d put money on it being Vecna trying to take over Wills body as a host as his body was so damaged this season and because he knows what we don’t know yet, that Will is powerful enough to hold him. (Will the wise is a wizard, Vecna is a dark wizard, a coincidence, I think not). Will and El will go up against Vecna and obviously their friends will be their to help them through, but this time I think we could lose core members of the group, and it’ll be upsetting and hurt like hell.

Chrissy

It’s not his nose bleeding, it’s a shadow, it’s been analyzed by diehards.

Chrissy

Davion is such a byler.

Alexis

Please watch breaking bad asap

Lucas G

and el didn’t win the 1v1 necessarily it took all of them to beat Vecna while he was busy trying to kill Max

prxncequincy

nathan is right Vecna is the one controlling everything it was literally confirmed by el hence why she said “it was you, it’s been you this whole time” and it comes full circle with the flashbacks with Billy saying what he said bcuz vecna already knew el prior

prxncequincy

If you guys remember back in season 3 when El and Max went to see if the lifeguard was okay, the way Billy was standing is the same way 001 would stand in El's memory. Just a small detail I think is cool, goes to show that Vecna really is controlling everything.

Daisy Hernandez

Without any judgment he gave her a name, cloths, bed to sleep, food to eat, a place where she can actually feel safe for the first time ever. He gives her love, protection, the right to protect herself as a human being, he gives her hope and the right to dream, to be normal with her difference. He accepts her past, the fact that she kills and her darkness within her. I understand why she loves him so much and why his name is the only name she calls every time. Hearing mikes say those words the way he did was extremely important to her. Why is so hard for davion to get it? #Mileven

Peaches

I cried so much ugh I’m literally crying 😭😭😭😭

Natalie Thompson

Vecna definitely won the man got everything he wanted .if vecna lost that fight we wouldn’t be getting a season 5 😂11 and the whole gang didn’t get anything they wanted so it’s a W for one

Tania

Also, like to add, many people actually understand Jasons actions if you check social media. I didn't like the character, but I can understand where some people are coming from. I just think his actions were incredibly wrong but, it's weird to not at least see things " a bit" from his perspective. He just continously kept seeing the wrong things at the wrong time, which fueled his behavior. He was also grieving the loss of a girlfriend and a friend. If you think about it, he would be considered a hero had this would've been a show from his perspective. I think he was a good antagonist. The only thing though, is that some people are excusing him way too much by saying they would've become Jason's. Like uhmmm??? 😂 And pls guys, pls stop bringing up Billy😂😂😂 yall said you would stop😂😭

Sebolelo Mndaweni

most likely because this is the last episode

cherish

The mind flare is just a way for vecna to manipulate it to enter different entities to do his bidding. A way of mind control. Aka the mind flare. Vecna is the boss. Everything else is is his minions.

Kirsten

Vecna controls everything he’s the one that controls the mind flayer. When vecna got sent to the upside down he saw the mind flayed and shaped it into a spider like shape because of his obsessions with spiders as a kid

aiden

Vecna is the one controlling everything, he controls the mind flayer and that’s why it was after El. And the mind flayer controls everything else so when The demi dogs got burned that was burning the mind flayer which also controls the vines in the house causing Steve and them to be released. El didn’t cause vecna to disappear, Steve did by burning his physical body he couldn’t focus and he was hurt causing him to leave maxs mind. All these things happening at the same time were different reasons why it seemed easy for vecnas defeat

Amaya Harper

I hear what Davion and Cameron are saying but, I just want to say that, I think maybe there was honestly no other way things would've played out besides this. I think the scene where Nancy, Robin and Steve get caught by the vines was probably misplaced. Vecna already knew their plan, the minute Max, Lucas and Erica entered the house in the real world. All Vecna waited for, was for Nancy, Robin and Steve to enter the upside down version of the house where he was in. He was already going to tie up these 3 the minute they entered, so that they don't disturb him whilst he's in Max's mind. Thats why when Max tried to find another happy memory, he kept showing her what is happening to everyone else. He said you think I don't see what you've been doing, meaning that he knew their plan all along. So, Steve wouldn't have even gotten the chance to run up and throw the flame, because he would've gotten caught by the vines. It wouldn't have changed anything I think. And the whole speech. It's something that has been built up since season 1. Mike has had trouble telling El he loves her since the beginning. So, him telling her that he loves her, would be the ultimate power for her since this is something she's been waiting to hear. The speech soldified their relationship. So, that I love you scene was VERY important. For both characters and it will definitely build on into season 5. I think also Will needed to hear the I love from Mike to El. Even though it's extremely painful for the kid, it could play a part for the character in season 5 (the Duffer bros said Will is the main kid in season 5. It is confirmed. A part of Wills story is the unrequited love). I personally think they needed all this time for things to properly play out so that it doesn't seem rushed and it didn't, but I do understand what Cameron and Davion are saying. Lastly🙈, in terms of Max "dying" then the gate opening, only for her to "come back again", I think Davion, there your looking into it a bit much. It's a Sci fi at the end😂 So, some things just won't make sense for plot convenience

Sebolelo Mndaweni

remember that episode where number 5, Eleven's sister from the lab used her powers to hide from the police by making it seem like they disappeared? I think Vecna was still on the ground after Nancy shot him maybe he just used his powers to look like he wasn't there.

Kim555

I HAVENT WATCHED BUT WHY IS HE ALREADY CLUTCHING HIS HEAD AT THE BEGINNING

sid

I’m convinced season 5 is gonna be Will’s time to shine and i’m so excited for it. Especially because even though it’s hard to see, in the final scene of them looking over Hawkins, Will’s nose is bleeding. Like what does that mean😭

Jaleah

Y’all have been my favroite reactors on stranger things, i’ve been waiting for this ep so long

Maya

Also Vecna seems to be the main villain. He shaped the mind flayer and Will even said that it’s been him all this time

Jason777

ALSO did anyone realise the gates met where will was found in the upside down in s1?! that’s gotta mean something for s5

libbie rose

YESSSS

Arriona Clark

Vecna still won in terms of what he needed to accomplish. It didn’t go exactly according to plan and he got legitimately hurt but he still opened the 4 gates, which is what he needed. The reason his defeat felt underwhelming is because he’s still alive

Jason777

i agree with nathan. vecna won because he got the fourth kill and destroyed hawkins which was his plan all along

Matt Impastato

How many ways this mini movie broke my heart, I lost count. So much happened. I cried so much I got a headache. I needed a nap after. Eddie broke my heart, don’t want to be reading the “he was overrated” crap. A fans reaction to a certain character and how they feel about that character is not your place to pull it apart, analyze it and say it’s wrong. I said a million thank you’s that Steve made it and Max? The max and Lucas scene still lives in my head 4 months later. “Erica help” Caleb added in. I really hope next season, the Duffers finally give Lucas the script material he deserves. This whole finale still lives in my head 4 months later. “Phenomenally spectacular” is what my kid said. Damn right, this whole season was. This is the standard to which you should hold every tv show. No other show like it. And to the people that did the music this season, well fucking done, that music on the hill at the very end when they were looking out over Hawkins and the destruction, was moving as hell. Like some blockbuster movie theme. Beautiful. Never quit your job, you’re amazing at it.

Chrissy

FINALLY

trinity

IM SO SCAREDDDD AT WORK BUT WILL BE HOME IN AN HOUR OR SO AHHH

Julie

i’m CONVINCED they were meant to kill steve and changed it last minute, like what robin said combined with his conversations with nancy?! that’s a whole death lineup

libbie rose

woooooooooooo

Kymberlee Shakoor-Asadi Preston

I like to eat my meal while watching the watch along😭

Fate

Literally every here is now waiting for the watch along lol

Philbo

What I’m also waiting for

Philbo

FR

Fate

Make sure to be safe and have fun!!

Just Us

Imma just wait for the watch along

Fate

YESSSS

Fate

how long until the watch along?

maria

the scream i just let out-

feryenn

YAY

Taurie Vasquez

Now I wait for the watch along

Jesse

not you posting this while im leaving for an halloween party😭😭😭 i see myself getting home drunk in the morning and watching this right away

elena

OMG THIS IS IT AHH

Naomi Reed

Imma wait for the watch along

David Patterson

Never been more excited for anything EVER

Perfection Akinwande

LETS GOO

aiden

Now we got to wait for the watch along😭

Dotdot _142

I love y’all man🥲

Excell

Lets gooo

Miabelle Tukh

YES

Jesse

yessirrr

ziyonah

yayyy

Naomi Aliche

LETS GOOOOO

Lindsey

lets goooo

Matt Impastato

YESSS

tala

Let’s go!!!

Christopher Almaguer


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