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The Walking Dead 2X12 RAW REACTION

Got one more TWD reaction for y'all today! Season 2, Episode 12

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-Adison

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* Last Appearance of Shane Walsh * This is the first time that two main cast characters have been killed in successive episodes. * The title of the episode, "Better Angels", comes from American President Abraham Lincoln's Inaugural Address of 1861, "by the better angels of our nature". Writer Evan Reilly came up with the episode's name. It could also be seen as how Dale believed in the "Better Angels" of the group and tried his best to preserve the flicker of humanity that still exists within everyone. * The episode's exact runtime is 00:43:13. * Lori refers to the flashback from S2EP5 "Chupacabra" while talking with Shane * Though Jeffrey DeMunn (Dale) is still credited as a starring character in this episode, he does not appear, as he was already written out of the show. * This episode marks the first time in the TV Series where Carl directly kills a walker. * Robert Kirkman explained, "There was actually another death in this episode that at the very last minute, after the script was written, we decided not to do. So we were going to have three major deaths in these two episodes but then that was decided it was just too much." It was later explained by Glen Mazzara on the Talking Dead that Hershel was originally written to be killed by Randall as he escaped in this episode. The writers had difficulty completing the scene and instead decided to allow Hershel to live due to the dramatic possibilities that would face the character in the next episode and season * Robert Kirkman stated, "It's important to note that Shane was [Rick's] best friend. So no matter how much [Rick] knew, he didn't want to admit to himself that he knew. It wasn't until that walk out into the woods, when Shane was leading him to his death, that he really kind of accepted the fact that, Wow, this is not the guy I knew any more." * T-Dog had six separate lines of dialogue in this episode, and Entertainment Weeklyjoked this was, "a new record." * Glen Mazzara responded about Shane becoming a zombie in, "Better Angels", much faster than Amy, and not getting bit: "We worked hard to make sure that revelation landed. We knew what we were doing there. We knew it would land a punch. We've never had a main character become a zombie to this extent. Those [rapid flashes of zombie mayhem] represent the storm in Shane's brain to some extent … Amy was a weaker character. Shane is in a murderous rage … he's going to reanimate quicker. There's just more life in that zombie, believe it or not. We do have internal rules for that." * Rick said that he wanted to leave Randall at Senoia, the same town which was used to make Woodbury * When T-Dog is getting Randall for Daryl and Rick, you can see the combination for the lock to the shed door is seen (upside down) as "3006" (like the popular 30.06 rifle). * Shane's death was accidentally leaked by the AMC TV store on March 1, 2012 in promotional materials for the Season 2 Blu-Ray set. Photos of Shane as a zombie were similarly leaked and posted on many websites, including The Walking Dead Wiki. * Glen Mazarra revealed that there were some talks about keeping Shane alive to Season 3, "At one point, we considered not killing Shane," Mazzara told MTV News. "But what's important about this season is, Rick has to step forward. He has to assume leadership of the group and he has to confront Shane." * Also, during his comicbook.com Q&A, Mazarra revealed that he, and the writers did talk about killing Rick by letting Shane kill him, but scrapped it out because "...this is Rick's story, not Shane's". | * When talking with Carl, Shane says that it’s not Carl's fault that Dale got bit by a walker. However, Dale did not got bit but instead got his stomach ripped open. * When Glenn helps Daryl by getting the walker Randall off him. Glenn ends up rolling over while Randall is facing upwards. As a result from rolling over the walker Randall should have been facing down, but Glenn kills him and he is still face up. * When, Rick and Shane are in the middle of the field and Shane yells at Rick saying "Right here, right now you ain't gonna fight for em?" talking about Lori, Carl and the baby, you can see Emergency units flashing their red, white and blue lights behind Rick's left shoulder. * Glenn is shown fixing the points on the Winnebago from the front of the RV. The points are only accessible from the inside of the RV, as the points are located in the distributor on the back of the engine. NOTE: This is not a goof. The year and model Winnebago shown on the TV series, a 1973 D-27C Winnebago Chieftain, would have had the 275hp Dodge 413 cubic inch engine package. This engine has the distributor (and therefore the ignition points) located on the front of the engine so in reality, access would be as shown by Glenn's character in this episode.

Austin

How is sex remotely on your mind with a child in a ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!!!

Irony Flanagan

Lori had to worry about securing a protector during the apocalypse for her baby. In case something happened to Rick, she couldn’t let Andrea have Shane. She’s not strong so she had to use what she had to protect her son and I also think that’s why she almost was hoping Carl didn’t pull through. She never looked like she enjoyed being with Shane. It looked like a chore when they snuck off into the woods. I don’t like her bc she’s selfish and isn’t a great mom šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ but I understand

LB

ā€œYall can be a liiiittle harsh on the womenfolkā€ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ she’s right but also idk y it’s hilarious to me. Especially during GOT.

LB

Lori is a big girl and did what she did multiple times.. she doesn’t need defending since she causes a lot of her own trouble and everyone else’s! So just stop.. it’s called accountability and from your comment it is clear you do not know what that is!

Erynn Charlss

It is warranted.. she is terrible and could never stand side by side with Rick and hold her own! She causes more problems than fixing them!! So again the hate towards Lori behind is warranted

Erynn Charlss

Yall be hating on Lori so much, everything she does gonna bother you, and a lot of it isnt warranted

Tyvonn

Carol? Where is Lori at and what is she doing ctfu like come on there’s supposed to be a crazy guy with a gun and you let ya son go out into the woods

Ana_C

i think a part of why shane started hating and resenting rick is bc he is everything he isn’t. it’s a constant reminder of how less of a man he is when it comes to rick. once he was in the picture rick became in charge just like he was when they were both cops. everyone respects and listens to him. y’all are religious so you know envy is one of the deadly sins. shane has probably always had a lingering jealousy and the apocalyptic just made it worst. he even said he was a better man and father than rick but he even knew that was a lie. even back to the first episode when they were talking about women. rick has a family and shane didn’t so once he had the chance he tried to steal rick’s family and make it his own. rick even called him out for it. he doesn’t love lori or carl he loves how they make him feel…which is needed/wanted. he honestly just lost his mind. he became delusional, talking about it was a long time coming for him and lori which means he clearly had feelings for her for a WHILE. even when rick got shot you can see it when he was interacting with lori. what’s crazy is without rick he wouldn’t know lori or carl smh he is just TRIFLIN. and although i do believe lori was the catalyst for that happening at that moment, eventually shane still would've tried to get rid of rick. i think he rushed the plan bc he saw an opportunity with randall. what sucks is rick has lost the most in this situation. he had to kill his childhood best friend after trying so hard to keep the peace. he didn't want to do it at all, thats why he let him lead him through the woods for so long. his crying and wailing gets me every time 🄲 and then carl wants to point a gun at his father?! at this point rick needs to throw the whole family away lmao but for real i know it's timed pretty close with the timing but it looks like he did have the gun up for a couple seconds before shane stood up. it seems like carl pointed the gun at rick out of anger and confusion. he did think about letting shane bite him which is why he didn't say anything or warn rick, then eventually realized he couldn't let that happen and then shot shane. he was contemplating which is WILD

courtney

Not my dog Shane. RIP to one of the greatest. At least he got to watch Dale go before him. And he was a father to be too. Oh nooooo

Nathan Hale

I am on those sides who defend Lori. Shane is a big boy and his actions needs to be accountable for. No one is saying Lori is innocent, but I see this as her making her peace and letting Shane know he needs to move on. Lori is committed to Rick and just because a woman and man have a conversation that doesn’t mean it’s cheating. Rick is a big issue right now and he puts everyone in front of his family. Including Shane…. Love you guys… ā¤ļø

Melisa

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Demon Rick

She isint trying to make things worse but she is. The convo she had with Shane was emotional cheating, and she could have slept with anybody but she chose Shane her husbands bestfriend, it wouldn’t be as bad if she slept with Glenn or dale or whatever but she chose Shane. She also did it right after he "died" she didint wait at all. And her reasoning for sleeping with him was poor, she said she just wanted to feel something, anything, she could have just hugged Carl or eat an apple or whatever she wanted to sleep with Shane she didint do it to "feel somethingā€

hƄkon hollekim rodak

I love how Rick saysā€¦ā€I’m doing thangggsssssā€

Erikka_reacts

* this is long. Feel free to not read it if ya want to. It's all good. Just some perspective on where Daryl comes from* already mentioned my perspective on Dale on other posts. But we gotta clear Daryl up here far as Daryl goes lol he's an Appalachian boy lol one of the only pretty well written and accurate ones in the history of television. Esp in the first 5 or so seasons. Lot of folks have lives just like his, around here. That's a common thing. But even the ones who don't? Which is the majority.. We're all built for the apocalypse lol to one degree or another. in fact, a lot of us would do a hell of a lot better in that world lol it's just a dif type of place lol most dudes here wish a mf'er would zombie on up to them šŸ˜‚ So anyway. His parents n whatnot def helped him along. But it's also just the culture. A lot of.. hollers and coal camps n lil ...hilltop family n camp compounds lol could be sets for TWD with no change necessary lol just show up n start shootin. It's pretty much mad max meets survivorman in a lot of these hollers 🤣 more than you'd prob ever realize or believe. (They shoulda worked in a snake church now that I think about it lol) n shit we're from... Border outlaws and bandits lol to begin with. mountain men, religious cults. Rebels. N I'm Talkin even long before our folks got here. Before that... The real king Arthur n his boys lol and pirates n shit. Hell. Dickson/Dixon is a common Border Reiver name from Scottish outlaw border country. The biggest Immigrants to Appalachia, the ones who are responsible for prob 70% of the culture lol It was mostly the problems to the English crown from the borders and the mountains and the rebel pockets and countries England was tryin to conquer or tame... Folks who didn't want to assimilate to a "polite" English way of life. Usually at least Celtic roots, minus the Palatine Germans later on. Mostly poor or close for many generations. Sent or chased or tricked or escaping to or seeking a better life in the mountains n hills that formed first frontier of America lol lil past where civilization ended To live offa the land, to be alone, to continue not to assimilate lol to eventually fall into moonshine and coal and oil and timber for those who wanted to be a part of an real national economy. and THAT's when shit got real weird 🤣 when actual Appalachian culture began forming. I just gave a real long description, so you would understand a lil better. but it was so long I took that part down. If you wanna hear bout it I'll copy and paste it. If not, just trust me when I say.... It's just a whole dif breed of human being lol just imagine custom building a group of folks for a zombie apocalypse lol n there ya go. So it ain't just how he was raised by his folks, at all..it's his entire culture. His great great great x 10 grandparents were built for this already. It's in his blood lol he was born for it. he's just a more extreme example than some because he had to live a lil rough in a modern age, compared to some folks. Far as being an "evil world".... Tough times, trauma, freedom... A world like this ain't evil. Or good. Much like our own world. It's just wild. It's a lot more brutal. The simplicity is a bit beautiful, in itself. More real, more honest in many ways. A lot of acts get dropped. Or figured out, it's gonna go one of those 2 ways. you really find out who is what, who can lead. Support. Who can follow. Who can think. Who can plan.. who can stick to a plan. Who has foresight. Who can shoot. Who can move under pressure, who really has an steel nerve, big ol swingin balls of stone. Who is loyal. Who is at least loyal to good ideas. Who is built like that. Who has fear in their heart. Who can hunt. Who can fight. Who can take a beating. Who's jealous. Who holds onto a grudge. Who's a thief. Who can really keep fighting lol who has a code as a man, who will stick to it even in the cases when it don't benefit them to do so; when it's a serious burden or even a risk. hell you'll find out who folks really are when they ain't ate for 2... 3 days straight. Who is out for themselves. Whose word can ya trust. Who loves who. Who cares about others. Who will sacrifice, who who is practical. Who aint. Who has a good attitude. Who has been through some real shit before. Who knows how to laugh, to enjoy life. Who's appreciative. Who has respect, who respects who. Who knows how to make life worth livin. Who has skills, who's a quick learner. Who has value, and how much. Lot of the real shit, it's gonna come out. Ya can't hide behind words or a tough look in a world like this. That's only gonna go so far Bragging or flyin off the handle to make a scene like a female lol just ain't gonna do it forever. Eventually whatever you are, whatever it is you're on... folks are gonna figure it out. And everyone will get in where they fit in or die. But mostly what I wanna say is in situations like this you get the best and the worst out of folks. You meet the best and the worst people; cause a lot of the in between don't make it very far unless they know what horse to hitch their wagon to and have a lil luck. And the best and the worst people are bred out of this sort of world. You say evil, but you're just focusing on the worst of it. Anyway. I wanted to just clear that up lol asteroid, uprising, zombies... Whatever it is we're bout as ready for it as a group of folks is ever gonna be lol take a look at everyone buildin back NC lol and that's the nice, gentrified part of Appalachia lol they still got that all in em, never lost it. Daryl ain't an anomalie lol dude's great great great great grandparents were prob livin 85% the same way as they are now lol the way Daryl was livin means he's a lil more ready than average, even. Daryl's molded for it from scratch. like a comode's built to hold an ass for awhile. Shane can pass. For a minute. he's just tough, he's ruthless. He's willing to do anything. That ain't the LEAST equipped guy for this sort of world. But it ain't the same as bein purpose-built for it, either. It just ain't HIS world. Never will be. And that's why he ain't make it far lol that tough guy... Bully shit? That's a short term attitude in a world like that. And an approach bred from fear. Look at Shane's whole demeanor lol vs Daryl. Shane's cryin and havin heart attacks twice an episode lo he's heart broken mad sad I'ma leave I'ma stay. Don't leave the farm don't go look for a lil girl..Shane's not usually impractical, necessarily. And he has some physical ability to do damage.. but Shane is a scared lil boy left alone at the mall lol. Lot to be said about a man that never laughs. First thing we ever saw Shane do, whole min ... Stand up special tirade lol laughin joking. All that. Man ain't laughin now lol show me a man who never laughs who's even 1% comfortable or confident in his situation. In his ability. The man is absolutely terrified. And he should be; he's less ill prepared than most. But he ain't ready. Meanwhile Daryl is chillin. Hershell wants to die on a farm "hell, good a night as any"... Cruising on a motorcycle as zombies circle in lol watchin farms burn. Off hunting on his own living a life his whole culture and childhood have prepared him for perfectly lol he's kickin it. Just livin. Shane ... That man is shittin his britches lol every episode. Just shakin in his combat boots. Bein loud. Yellin at old men, beatin on the defenseless. Bein emotional. Can't stop losin his shit. Throwin tantrums. Bein aggressive. he's a scared lil boy. Adapting at a ... Reasonable rate, in fairness. Learnin the ropes. Some sense, better equipped than some. Evolving more effectively(albeit, grimey n rotten) than some. Understands the realities of the situation and what works a lot better than Rick, in most cases. or certainly Dale, but... Still WAY out of his element. I can smell the fear from here lol meanwhile Daryl's off on his own campin, tracking lol tellin Appalachian tall tales, Chupacabda stories. it's just another Wednesday in Jumpin Goat Holler for Daryl. It ain't the same thing. Look at how Daryl reacts to.... Dale tellin him Shane killed Otis. Or how he reacts to Shane when they're trackin Randall lol then tell me who's built for what. Daryl's custom built over 4,000 years for this sorta shit 🤣 Shane is just a bit of a tough guy and a dick who kinda sorta gets the gist. It ain't the same thing man lol there's levels here shit Daryl's pappy took shits with more hair on their chest than Shane lol more grit flipside; Rick, now Rick has the material. Now some of that Rick shit wouldn't work at all in real life lol basically anything past s5 wouldn't ever work irl anyway šŸ˜‚ but rick, he's made of the right shit, at least. more or less. It's just a matter of gettin hit in the head enough times to learn where he's at. But when you're humble n got some resolve and you care about your people, you can learn that. Long as you all make it through all them head bumps lol He ain't catch on as quick as Shane. But he's built way better for it. Rick's a day 1 scuba diver who got what it takes to be good at it. Shane is a scared flailing scuba diver running low on his oxygen tank; he kinda sorta gets the idea and he's got some upper body strength but this just ain't his world.. Daryl's a dolphin; this is what he's made to do.

Jeremy Dunfee

now that, I don't know much about. Tried to eat some crawdads a time or 2 lol but we don't got the same species as you all do, they just ended up as some high water bait in the deep freeze

Jeremy Dunfee

man i knew yall would figure out it’s airborne quick!

jasmin

lol yalls reaction to shane’s little oscar moment was too funny

jasmin

that hearye hearye?!

jasmin

lol hold on now i am far from a fan but she’s got some good competition for that title

jasmin

wait i had no idea!do you know if they actually make it into the background?

jasmin

they had a discussion last episode comparing folks made for this world and folks adapted to this world and since she’s such a perfect example of somebody that adapted it just made me even more excited for her introduction

jasmin

i feel like part of shane’s view that rick can’t make it’s just shane’s way of coping with what he’s done cause if rick’s way works then that means shane mighta had a option

jasmin

shoot i can’t lie i recognize the cajun dudes i known in daryl too he’d fit right in in the boot

jasmin

can you not talk about spoilers

Constantdev

That final conversation Lori had with Shane is what finally made Shane snap in his eyes is if he got rid of Rick Lori would eventually move on and get back with him

Patrick Saona

That gif profile picture is going crazy! You might have to show me how to do that šŸ”„ -Adison

Adison Hardyway

Hopefully the last… -Adison

Adison Hardyway

The conflict trinity!! -Adison

Adison Hardyway

Are you meaning that’s why he got killed off? -Adison

Adison Hardyway

This. Women and Females have the same amount of syllables too we can’t say it’s because it’s easier to say lol

Lele O

YESS lol I’m so excited to move past season 2!

Lele O

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I get y’all’s point for disliking Lori. I do too BUT do remember that in the Bible when women had to rely on men; a widowed woman would usually court and remarry a family member of the groom after her mourning. Now this is just for them. Not everyone believes in the Bible. What I said is more historical than religious but it was allowed. So if lori had to adapt quick to this world for Carl then her mourning for rick may have been quick. Shane is his best friend and probably reminded Lori of rick. She probably needed someone to protect and make them feel safe. From there you know… I think Rick forgiving her was the right thing. I would be more mad at Shane than Lori . I would feel disturbed with my wife as Rick but it’s just time to move on now. And that’s what he is doing with Lori. This detail alone causes people to overthink Loris character. I admit many of her choices are poor but I don’t think she’s TRYING to make things worse.

Alexis Maracle

Absolutely šŸ’Æ I agree. And I can’t wait either. I can’t stand when people act like Rick became Shane when he did not. He became better, so much better. I can’t wait to see the reactions. šŸ’™šŸ’Æ

Karla Johnson

This is well explained, and this is how I want to people to understand it. Shane would be able to survive it but on his own, his reasoning was all for himself. Shane was probably the most hot headed, emotional person. I disliked Shane but I know in certain situations he was right but did not execute it reasonable. Rick is someone who can lead a group because he has all the qualities of a leader, he listens and he uses logic. Shane’s hot headed, impulsive nature is for a man who is alone. That’s why Rick survived so long he adapted, some may say he became somewhat like Shane but he didn’t he just realized and adapted to the world. Even when he became ruthless he was still logical and understanding. Being built for a world doesn’t mean you are guaranteed to survive. Daryl is Daryl we know why but another example is Carol I can’t wait till they see who Carol becomes. Cause Carol also became adapted.

Kookie luv

Lori was definitely keeping her options opened.

Pascha Marya Lophand

love that 3 episoeds got dropped it made me squeal i was so excited to come and binge them but it was late for me so i only got through 2.

Sarah Louise

I will say this and this is just my own opinion but Shane had alottt of truth to what he has been saying from the start, he was for sure made for this world. Shane was more outspoken and run into danger. Rick was more layback and strategic. He wouldn’t run into danger, he would plan and execute. Shane thought Rick couldn’t survive in this world because this new world is ruthless and you have to be gun hoe in other words. That was Shane. I don’t think Rick believe Shane was wrong necessary, but the logical side to Rick has to figure out ways to adapt. Shane would run in fire with no thought and get burn or throw someone else in the fire and play hero, Rick would plan what to do to put the fire out or how to get around it as a team and actually be a hero. They both would do the same but who would be the actual hero. Shane thought Rick was weak but in reality it’s Shane. So again Shane wasn’t necessarily wrong, but his choices and way of doing things would get someone killed or cause havoc on the group due to him and decisions. Shane was for sure built for this world, but this world is not good or peaceful so what does that tell you? And before anyone say anything about Daryl he was built for it ONLY imo because of how he already lived. No peaceful home, no good environment, lived in the woods, on his own so his way is totally different than Shane. But Rick for sure can adapt and this is all the reasons why Rick is the leader of the group. Dale was the ONE that just could not adapt imo out of anyone. His heart was too pure and never faced the reality of this new world but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t right by the things he was saying. He was the ONE that wanted people to remember the good and not allow the world to take you to an evil place. So hey in reality he understood the new world clear as day, he just didn’t want people to lose sight of the good things.

Karla Johnson

To Adison & Brandon: The ā€œDaleā€ character left IRL because Darabont was no longer producing the series. He & Lori both as protest.

MusicDevine

Ahhhh, but Lori gets her comeuppance. I enjoy it each time I watch it.

MusicDevine

Never liked Lori and I thought her so called apology was too little too late and an excuse to keep dragging Shane along, giving him hope. At no time did she say, ā€œI choose Rick. Rick is my husband. There is no hope or chance for a me and you.ā€ Messy Lori was at all times playing the odds. I honestly don’t believe she ever loved Rick or Shane.

SonjaB29

Daryl peeps... šŸ˜‚ I've made comments before about the Memphis poppin out in buddy lol when he notices things, picks up on details n energy.... I compared it to when my Appalachian coal country comes out.... Now they notice the Daryl peeps... Daryl, that character, is written as an Appalachian boy. And they pretty much nailed it. Twd , good show, but doesn't always have the best writing or the best written characters.... but they captured a pretty typical Appalachian holler boy, pretty god damn well. those Daryl peeps, not always sayin out loud what you know... all culturally accurate, like a lot of Daryl's character is. ESPECIALLY his character in the first 5 or so seasons and that goes back to my comments about the Appalachian poppin out in me and the Memphis showing in dude, sometimes. It's funny when it happens lol but WHERE you're from lol does a lot. n that's what Daryl is showing, with those peeps. And yes. In zombie years, Carl is a man. All this... "oh he's a kid, he don't know any better" .. all that bs is a luxury of our easy times. In hard times it's ok, you're 14? Time to take this gun and guard that mountain over there 🤣 we don't have time to play around with your grown ass or hold your hand til you're 37. we got real shit to do. time to pull your weight and a lil more on top of that. hike those pants up .. chest out, chin up.. nuts hang. be a man. or just get out the way n die, kiddo. but we don't got the room for you to keep bein a grown ass child. not on this farm here...

Jeremy Dunfee

I’m a say it again Lori is the problem confusing this cat Shane was he already bonkers hell yeah but adding fuel to the dam fire now do I think he would’ve done what he did in this episode I’m not sure but that conversation is what did it

Jonathan centeno

Blaming EVERYTHING on Lori?? Even for what Shane did to Randall?? Come on you guys! I feel like you two, as well as the majority of TWD fandom, are hell bent on villainizing Lori and cannot see and understand her past that view. She is a human, who, under extremely stressful situations, made a terrible decision. She now, as a character in this show, in this season, before it ends, is trying to tie up some loose ends and find some closure.

gayjinchuriki

Yea I definitely think a lot of people have a Lori bias šŸ˜‚ she 100% did try to cut him off multiple times. He’s a psycho and nothing she could’ve done would’ve changed it after they already got together while Rick was ā€œdead.ā€ Dude is a nut case. Shes just not a good wife but apparently being a bad wife is worse than being a psychopathic murderer šŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™€ļøšŸ˜‚

Kelsey

I agree Lori is not a good woman by any means, but the fact that she seems like the main villain to all of yall when we just watched Shane these last 2 seasons is crazyy šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚ I love yall, but Lori is not responsible for that man’s actions. Her actions she made alone are bad enough. Shane is the only one responsible for ā€œgoing crazyā€ and doing anything he did. He’s an actual monster and regardless of what Lori says or doesn’t say to him, doesn’t change who he is. Yall really think Shane would’ve left without a fight or coming back for her or something if she told him she wanted him gone? He’s the type to ACT like he’s giving you a choice. He has his mind made up either way. He was going to have Lori whether she wanted him or not, he just wanted to see if he needed to get rid of Rick or not in order to have her… unless one of the three of them dies first šŸ‘€šŸ˜‚

Kelsey

if she thinks hes so dangerous that she had to warn rick and tell him to literally get rid of him, why does she need to thank him for anything loll what logic is that

StrawHat

Her thanking Shane for what he did in the beginning does not change the fact that he’s dangerous now

Valor Morghulis

Are you dense? She’s thanking him for saving her son and her in the very beginning. Because without Shane, Carl and her would’ve been dead and she knows that, so she thanked him

Valor Morghulis

ofc its not her fault that Shane did what he did because hes responsible for his actions. However, the show deliberately puts the scene where Shane loses his mind, starts slapping himself and kidnaps the guy right after the convo she had with him. So, even though she didn't do anything to instigate him directly, hearing her apologize and say thank you, to him meant there's still a chance with them if he gets rid of Rick. and mind you she's been giving him mixed signals because after she blew up on him, he decided to leave, and she turned around and told him to stay.

StrawHat

Me too šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚ at least I’m not alone with this but I was literally in tears when Dale died šŸ˜† I was in shock when they found Sophia for sure, but it didn’t get me like my man Dale 😩😩

Kelsey

I agree with you, but Lori said the men should protect them and Andrea should do laundry, which was wild.

A.

I don't even like Lori but people really take the worst view on everything she does. She said she has a different perspective because of Dale's death, maybe she feels like she overreacted by calling for his head (which she was right to do btw, that man needed to die).

A.

the way i saw this & was like wait ANOTHER ONE? we spoiled over here fr

gabby

This is taking me back to my teen years. I was so obsessed right from the start of this series. I can’t wait for y’all to meet my girlšŸ—”ļø

Ricki

Let me start this off by saying I don’t like Lori, but I think it’s crazy blaming her for his actions. Lori told him at the quarry that everything was done with them when Carl got shot and he had been planning on leaving and Lori told him to stay. She didn’t mean to stay like I wanna be with you. She meant stay because you’ve helped us and Rickā€˜s not gonna want him to go after you just saved our kids life. I think a lot of confusion happens because everybody already hates Lori like when she asked Daryl to go look for Rick and everybody was like why couldn’t she go herself? Well they had already had established roles. That’s why she asked Glenn to look for the pregnancy test and the Plan B because Glenn was already the runner we knew that from like episode one or two so everyone getting mad that she don’t go out and do stuff on her own when she’s not supposed to they had designated people for that and then when she did everybody’s upset because she crashed the car. This is why they had designated roles for people. In this episode, Shane was already acting crazy like he wanted to kill Rick before Lori talked to him. I never felt like she pushed him. The way he was looking at rig and acting when they were at the truck together and he was like you can take Daryl out with you. He was already planning on killing him.

Kierra

It’s really the more capable go out. T dog, Dale, and Beth’s BF for example usually don’t go out much either. Shane Daryl and Rick are the main ā€œstrong charactersā€ and that’s just because Rick/Shane are former cops, and Daryl is Daryl. Glenn’s just fast. I’d argue that Andrea is as capable as Glenn when it comes to killing walkers. It’s just hard for any character to be as strong as Rick Daryl and Shane

Z

Honestly based on the fact that it was shown in the flashback that Lori is purposeful and hurtful with words, i thought she was trying to fast track a clash. Once Dale died and Hershal is basically just following Rick, Shane would have to do something crazy to be kicked out, because people did agree with what he was saying and Rick wasn't doing anything.

Janine Elizabeth

P.S. I need 13 asap! This show is perfect for y'alls commentary. We got drama, zombies, and guns LOL

Constantdev

Y'all definitely aren't too harsh on Lori or Andrea but also, just harsh enough on Shane, too. Although when she apologized to Shane this episode, that was too late. He DID deserve an apology from her, but she should have said it wayyyy earlier like immediately when Rick got back from the hospital or even at the CDC

Constantdev

Lmaoo leave shawty on the piano alone!!

Janine Elizabeth

Discord link expired, how can I get notified of your livestream?

MusicDevine

Wait until you see 2x13! Questions will be answered. Excited to see your next reaction. Joined Patreon!

MusicDevine

Hi, Je-Ree! You can raise your hand to speak at the end of the live reactions on Discord. 😊

Britt

Shane is responsible for his own actions; what I blame her for is her hypocrisy. How is she going to tell Rick he's dangerous and needs to go, but she's also thanking Shane and saying sorry? WTF?

StrawHat

Right she went and told bro thank u for saving me and son, and people blamed her for Shane’s actions it’s so weird

Valor Morghulis

@A. Oh 100%

Ra'Niqua Lee

Exactly. Lori deserves all the smoke. She gets just as much blame as Shane.

Destiney Keitt

Wow, Cool Avatar pic/profile pic! šŸ”„

Camillionaire

Same. The anticipation for how our boys are going to react got me a little antsy. Me and my daughter are currently doing a rewatch and Season 3 is so deliciously good.

Camillionaire

I am not defending what Lori did. I hated her character and I agree that she made bad decisions. I just don’t like the fact that somehow everything men do becomes a woman’s fault. Shane is not a child, he has full responsibility in this situation. Lori did not whisper in Shane’s ear and tell him to go kill her husband. Shane was crazy and it’s no ones fault except his.

Ece Ɩğretmen

I truly believe Lori would have never told Rick about Shane if she wouldn't have got pregnant...

Jared Roderick

is closure not a thing anymore? that dude literally needed closure hes a fucking basket case lol. she messed up, but also hes a nut case, it needed to be done

Michael Schaaf

ngl i get loris stance. its super messy but at some point wtf do u want her to do. move out? maybe. but i get her stance. she fucked up very bad, she needed to end it with shane, and hopefully life goes on.

Michael Schaaf

I’m a woman and I don’t think your harsh on the women at all. I can’t stand her and I can’t stand Andrea either.

Karla Johnson

she literally told rick to kill him

outstandingmember87

The first few seasons of this show are very regressive. I couldn't believe that conversation between Lori and Andrea where Lori said the men should be out protecting them and the women should be doing laundry. Shouldn't everyone be capable of protecting themselves and each other? And everyone should contribute to the household for sure, if not to the same level.

A.

Exactly like that's not a mistake you should be making, cause why his best friend?

Sahae

Lori you messy bitch

Christina

Ima be real. I didnt care about Sophia at all. Dale def hurt me worse lol

Dennis T Smith II

the first horde :)

El Chuncho

I don’t think your harsh on the women. I hated Lori. She deserves all the smoke lol

Destiney Keitt

She THINKS she’s giving Shane closure and trying to make things easier on him when she was just giving herself closure. There was a better way to say ā€œthanks for what you did. I’ve chosen my marriage and current family unit. Here are my boundaries going forward….ā€ But instead she reignited the fire. The idea that he’s got a chance of winning the competition in his head.

Montae Williams

lori saying all that to shane after she basically was telling rick to kill him is crazy.

StrawHat

Thank you guys for all of the content seriously. Hope everyone out there is having a great week. Happy Saturdayā¤ļø

Krabs

Mannn this is too much content, WWE Elimination Chamber, Tank Davis Boxing Match, EDN Walking Dead 3 episode reaction šŸ˜šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøbaby gone be mad at me tonight lol

HBK713šŸ„šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļø

Lori is the source of everyone's problem she's the worst character in the show

Danger Tomato

onto the next mayne . ts hurt me jss genuinly ricks performance man . shane let the demons truly get him

NorthhSZN

Wait when do we know it’s time to call in 😩

Je-Ree O

Yes!! I feel like they did women characters dirty…a lot, but I’m also looking forward to them getting introduced to my girl!!!

Jen M

I only seen this show up to abt season 5 but I remember season 3 being the best season so im super excited you guys are getting close to it

miss texas

Although Shane deserved to have respect to put on his name for taking care of them. Lori's speech was ill timed. It therefore had a disastrous effect on the deteriorating relationship between Rick and Shane. It gave Shane hope at another chance with Lori. This conversation cemented Shane's decision to go after Rick.

Camillionaire

At least u get ur ā€œandorā€ here lol vikings aint been seen in idk how long now

kingBD

Guys, you’re not harsh on Lori. I felt the same way when I first watched this episode and to be honest I still feel the same way rewatching this episode with you guys.

Shameka

I don't think you guys are hard on the women at all. Lori said all of that to Shane to alleviate her own guilt and she never, ever watches her child. Even when they thought there was a threat on the loose she still did not watch that boy. I died when one of y'all said it was midnight and he was outside.

lily mccann

A tutorial is crazy šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

Nicole Novak

Love y'all Walking Dead reactions. Lowkey agree with that first caller re the critique of women, but I blame the writers for how they portrayed women in these early seasons--weak, flighty, and in need of saving. Season 3, we get a strong female character, and I'm excited to see y'all react to her.

Ra'Niqua Lee

Let’s normalize not calling women ā€œfemalesā€. We’re women. A ā€œfemaleā€ can be any mammal. I don’t hear men being referred to casually as ā€œmalesā€ so let’s put some respect on it, so Bright Eyes is picking up on the vibe. Just saying…

Jen M

Finally lol

james moore

A lot of things contributed to Shane losing his mind. As far as we know he didn’t have a family like Rick. In this world he had a family and authority and lost it at the drop of a hat when Rick came. Too bad they never give us a look into Rick and Shane relationship before all of this cause I think he truly cared about Rick in some capacity. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have blocked the room off at the hospital. They weren’t just good friends on the job, they grew up together. Lori shouldn’t have said anything to shane. No way I’m having a heart to heart with a man who tried to SA me and rumored to have killed a good man. We wouldn’t be talking unless it was the three of us.

ReelPiscesPlays

I think Shane should get the blame. I honestly dont think Lori intentionally meant for him to go all crazy like that, as grimy as she is. Great reaction. Yall always be cracking me up and having these great real conversations.

vceisdead

To be fair, she was in his ear. If she truly believed he was dangerous, why have a heart to heart telling him u dont know whose baby it is? Then he’s also seeing his power and authority slip away-even Andrea called him the leader in front of Shane. She wasn’t the only blame tho but all started with his love for her.

ReelPiscesPlays

One of my fav episodes because this is where Rick lost a brother and gained another. Also don’t sleep on carol. She has the most character development

ReelPiscesPlays

I hope we get more breaking bad before yall binge season 3 Twd

Danger Tomato

Lori: *thanks Shane for saving their lives* Shane: *kills a kid, tries to stage what happened, attempts to kill his own bestfriend* yall: "this was Lori's fault" šŸ˜‚

Ece Ɩğretmen

2 EPS?! Come on now 🤣 SPOILING US

Ronan Crawford

Rip Dale

WillyD

Fun fact: the cast members wanted to see the rick and Shane scene on the field, bc they wanted to see how would it unfold. Very intense!

Shaniya

No way yall blaming lori for shanes action😭😭 she told the man thank u and he decided its time to kill rick lmao thats not her fault

Valor Morghulis

Nah thats for sure just shane’s fault 😭😭

Valor Morghulis

Was sad! Day instantly made!!!! Thank youuuuu

Sahae

Yes! Another video to enjoy on this lazy Saturday! Thank you, guys!!

Lily Taylor

OMG!! Love this!!! Watching it with my boy my joy (my son)!! We love y’all!

Shelly Gisevius

omg u just blessed us

outstandingmember87

Y’all blessing us today thank youuuu šŸ¤£ā¤ļø

Ayruzii

We have been blessed!!

Erikka_reacts

Oh my god, thank you!!!!!

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