Psycho pass episode 4
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Awesome reaction as usual, thank you!
Xeladragn
2022-05-26 02:44:52 +0000 UTCOh these guys are the real psychos alright
Swan
2022-05-25 08:23:01 +0000 UTC@Radoras first I don't know enough about psycho pass so it's mostly speculation. Only watch the anime until this episode. It depend on what the intent of the Sibyl system. What I believe the intent is to detect criminal intention that why they call it latent criminal coefficient. The Sibyl cannot detect criminal intention it can only detect let say stress level. It seem a bit more complex than this but that what it end up be. Which may or may not be related to criminal intent. Like the episode 1 the victim was seem as an unredeemable criminal to be killed. Base on stress level and not on criminal intentent. And it was temporary. She recover afterward. Going from no hope to recovery is a proof that the system don't know someone is unrecoverable. It's only have a threshold so people are deemed unrecoverable whether in actual truth they are or not. Also the manager in the last episode. We didn't see enough so more speculative expension. I believe you could be a criminal but if your not stress if you believe you do the good thing. The system will out you in the green good to go category. Like ah they just bully Him it's good for the business. It can go to ah they just killed him he was an hindrance to business so good for production. Green hue? Like I said speculative. So maybe the false positive is not the the right word but the system doesn't detect criminal intend even if they call it latent crime coefficient. (In fact my memory is so bad I not quite sure how they call it) it detect stress level and associated it with criminal intentent.
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 06:04:05 +0000 UTC@Dany DLTV: on the "false positives" - I might be wrong (sorry if I am, no offense), but it might also be that some might be judging it still from OUR system's view rather than Sybil system/ the general society in the show. What I mean by that is that we more judge if someone is "guilty", or rather is planning to commit a crime - the Sybil system judges only --how likely you are to cause trouble-- no matter the reason/intention. Someone who is in some sort of high stress can just as well overreact/lash out & cause harm (e.g. people getting trampled in a mass panic, like people trying to escape the police raid) as someone who is out to rob someone; we might not put people on trial for something like that in OUR society, but the sybil system doesn't judge morality, but cost-benefit & risk, so under that premise it might "work as intended", even if we wouldn't judge by those standards
Radoras
2022-05-25 05:29:45 +0000 UTCOMG I did write a lot but I start watching the reaction at 10PM and it's now midnight so 😅
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 04:01:56 +0000 UTC[after episode] Yes I don’t understand now their motivation since it has to be more complex than just we don’t like how your avatar is behaving. Nah we just don’t have enough information to get what they are doing. Don’t sell yourself short. I don’t think we are meant to understand at this stage of the anime. Interesting idea about them crossing being previously cops that cross the line, 🤔 Sorry I know you said it before, that they may previously be cops, and I heard it but never stopped to think about what it meant. So they cross the line. 🤔 Maybe that is what the history between Masaoka and Ginoza is about. He saw him cross the line and he doesn’t want Akane to cross the line. Well I don’t think he cares that much about Akane but just the idea of another cop crossing the line. 🤔 I think the sybil system gives way too many what I would call false positives. Everyone is a latent criminal like in the club they just shoot random people and catch a bunch of them. You did great reacting live. 🤗 I look at the time and I’ve been watching pausing and rewinding for the past 2 hours just to understand this episode and I don’t get half of it. This show makes you think and now I think we are in the main plot. 👍 See you next time. Take Care 😋
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 04:01:05 +0000 UTC[Spookie Boogie killed] 😭Spookie Boogie I liked her character. I didn’t even notice the guy with white hair before you pointed it out. See you notice more things than me 😋 Now I really don’t get what they are doing because it must be more than just replacing Talisman if the main villain is there.
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 04:00:45 +0000 UTC[When everyone cosplay was hacked into Talisman]That's how sick the sibyl system is. Go to a random party, shoot blind random people and you catch a few people with high latent criminals. That means in the general population there must be a lot of people labeled as latent criminals if you caught someone by randomly shooting in a crowd. Or the system gives too many false positives. [Talisman] I think he was just a psycho-pass “youtuber” and people didn’t like how he operated his channel. I may be wrong because I don’t get why they are doing all that.
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 04:00:28 +0000 UTC[at the meet-up] Yes Kogami has a grim look on things. First thing he thinks about is stabbing in social gatherings. They are way more organised than just a single guy. And all that because they didn’t like how Talisman behaved. Maybe a bit to steal his money but they did the same with Spooky Boogie.
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 04:00:11 +0000 UTC[at the crime scene] I don’t know how they can reconstruct all that happen so perfectly with so little clue 😅 🤔There is definitely something between Masaoka and Ginoza. [in the virtual world]I liked Spooky Boogie avatar and real life character style 🥺 You’re predicting the future once again. You said it before she called her by her name. 😋 It’s not that kind of virtual. You can’t kill people in this. You've seen too many shows where you’re trapped in a virtual world. This situation is sick. When other people believe that they know better than Talisman himself how he should behave. And because they don’t like it they kill him and take his place. 😣
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 03:59:57 +0000 UTC[With Masaoka painting] Yes it’s Kogami she is struggling with. She wants to understand her relationship with the enforcer and the enforcer themself. “To understand criminals you have to think like one and become one too?”🤔 I guess that is the whole premise of the enforcer. But you're right there is a difference between understanding the thought process and thinking it. Hmm I wonder if you go full on putting yourself in someone else's shoes the sybil system will target you for being a criminal. So far victims have been labeled as criminals and 5 year old kids have been labeled as criminals. ( the younger enforcer )
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 03:59:37 +0000 UTC[rambling] I just got a flash so bare with me. Here my problem with the wise is learning from history and the fool is learning from experience. Would you rely on someone with extensive experience or someone with no experience but a lot of historic knowledge? The problem with relying on external history is communication. Everything is simplified for communication. When we communicate we need to oversimplify stuff. Because to truly become an expert in a field takes years of research. So we all simplified and generalise so that we can keep it short and so that the audience understands. And that with science and hard facts. History is distorted by the teller. When we teach something we teach a model that is an approximation of reality. The person that uses the knowledge has to be aware of the limitations of the model. Reality is much more complex that what history tells us. When we try to apply a model to something beyond it, the wrong answer appears. I don’t know if what I said is understandable it’s was all over the place 😅
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 03:59:09 +0000 UTC[Let Jump into the Reaction] You got it, they said the fool and the wise. 👍 . I agree it seems very personal with Ginoza. I think on one hand there is something to be learned from history but I agree with you don’t be so quick to place people in stereotypical mold and pre-judge them. I think sometimes you have to think outside the box and shift the paradigm. That is when truly revolutionary things happen.
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 03:58:50 +0000 UTC[Before Episode Intro] Psycho pass It’s a lot to take in. You’re reacting so it’s normal not to catch everything. I keep pausing and rewinding. That's why it takes me so long to write those comments. Also I’m back from a nap the few hours of sleep last night wasn’t enough and take it’s tolls 😅 Back to Sybil. The interesting question is whether the loophole was intentional or not by the creator. I’m curious if it’s been purposely build so key people can be exploited or if it's just that key people found a way to exploit despite the best intentions of the creator.
Dany DLTV
2022-05-25 03:58:34 +0000 UTCi think you're right. the more i think about it, if she's trying to understand kogami and the only way to understand him is to see and think like him then it goes beyond simply understanding, she would actually be seeing and thinking like him, and like masaoka said her psycho pass would change. unless she's an android or something🤔 like you said, it's not a risk she should take.
Louie23_LA
2022-05-25 02:23:56 +0000 UTCyour Psychologist-analogy brings up a good point - you don't HAVE to "absorb" the issues of the people you're trying to help - but it's a very real risk (in fact, in a documentary a while ago I saw an interview with a psychiatrist who realized that he himself had developed mental health issues after doing his job for a couple years); the important part is if you can draw (and KEEP) the "work vs private"-line. I'm pretty sure I couldn't for long, even if I went and got a degree ^^' One thing I noticed was that you immediately assumed she was talking about Ginoza in Talisman's chat - I assumed it was Kogami. But fits the theme of "preconceived viewpoints" ;) And don't worry about "things going over your head"; it's not you, it's just a show that needs thinking, if it was simple it would loose appeal, you're doing great! 👍
Radoras
2022-05-25 02:09:01 +0000 UTCwell, with so much surveillance, it just means they would have to be VERY GOOD at what they're doing (like the guy in the first episode avoiding scanners for a whole while, but more organized & smarter as an organization); you're never getting a crime rate of 0%, but with tight monitoring criminals either get caugt fast or have to be smart enough to not get caught even WITH so much surveillance.
Radoras
2022-05-25 01:44:59 +0000 UTCyeah, definitively makes sense; however I assume even if some could pull it off without "slipping" - why take the risk if you a) have a system that does it for you & b) for cases where that's not enough, you have Enforcers to do it FOR you; after all - why risk your precious hue getting cloudy?
Radoras
2022-05-25 01:43:44 +0000 UTCSo seems like they’re going to be investing a crime organization. A group of likeminded individuals I assume, and seeing how easy it is to catch people they have to be skilled in order to avoid capture. Kinda reminded me of Dexter the way those guys were killing. We don’t really know their goal yet, it could be for financial benefits we might know later on. Surprised organized crime could exist considering even stepping outside the city you are being monitored allowing the machines to know your current coefficient. Happened to that one guy in the first episode. They’ll probably get rid of her the same way they killed talisman 🚽. For psychologist they look at the newest DSM that’s out, and let’s say it’s depression; they’ll see how many things you have that match that disorder. Once they do diagnose it they can move foward with solutions, not necessarily them putting themselves in their patients shoes. Not sure if what I say would be considered a rebuttal 😅
Sebastian
2022-05-25 01:25:56 +0000 UTCit makes sense that you can be influenced by how a criminal thinks if you understand why they think the way they do but i also think that it depends on the individual if they are easily influenced or believe in their way of thinking. just because you understand it doesn't mean you believe in it. if that makes any sense😂
Louie23_LA
2022-05-25 00:56:48 +0000 UTCi watched episodes 4, 5 and 6 in dubbed and it's alot easier for me to understand the show since i tend to not pay attention to what im reading.
Louie23_LA
2022-05-25 00:03:25 +0000 UTCgood timing👍 just got home from work
Louie23_LA
2022-05-24 23:57:28 +0000 UTC
